Yeah, we get that in school too. Girls in our school tend to turn around in their seats and give the guys their most gruesome glare. It works half the time, other times we fight it out. Most of the time, the conversation gets carried away from us and we can't say anything. I think girls these days really need to stick up for themselves a little more tho. This isn't the 50's, we can get jobs and still raise children! We are human beings who deserve respect and if you aren't given it, don't give it back. It's time women stepped up to the plate for a homerun.

At school, I know two people who are going out together. The boy is always abusing his girlfriend and calling her inapropriate, sexist names. Every time I am near these to, i get really bothered. People tell me to ignore those pieces of scheisse, but I can't. People these days can be so terrible.

I TOTALLY agree. Although at my school not much of that happened, when it did I got very angry. It's crazy that these boys think this. It's they're father's fault I beleive though. It's either that or pier pressure. But either way it's wrong. Girls, Women, we MUST stand up to this. When we just sit there and say nothing when the stupid BOYS (no male that is sexist should ever be called a man) thrash us with verbal assults, it's showing our stupidity and low self-esteem. It's giving them MORE of an excuse to insult us. The bible says that the woman is supposed to take care of the bills, the kids, cook, clean house, shop, furnish and basically do EVERYTHING. The male only goes to work. Not trying to sound sexist myself, because while the husband works all day keeping the family running, and the wife takes care of the house and kids, the husband still respects her and the wife has plenty of freedom. And although the bible was based off of older times they didn't have all the jobs we do now, if they HAD had the jobs we do now, they wife would have done even MORE.

I will definitely without a doubt agree with you on that!! It's so ridiculous how guys these days think that women should only be at home cooking and doing laundry!! Hello??? It's the year 2002 and if they haven't noticed YET, more women are working than ever before!! And it's our job as women to not necessarily yell back at them, but to just prove them wrong. So when we see those guys 20 years from now and we're making more money then they are, we can just laugh in their faces!!

people say that all the time after they offend someone just so it doesnt make them look bad. I know guysand teachers at our school that wished girls were in the back burner. a guy that thinks title 9 should be taken away. If title 9 were taken away anyone could be sexually harassed and the school wouldnt have to do a thing. as of now they dont do much about it. to one person it could just be a joke, but to another person it might not be funny. after you ask them to stop and they continue even though they know it hurts or bothers you, its harassment.

Oh yes, a very inteligent comment...
Yeah, they're just kidding, just like those people who use racial slurs in the hallways are "just kidding." Please, this is a serious issue with serious consequences. Don't just shrug it off as "they're just kidding." It hurts the developing self-esteem of female students, and hinders their ability to learn and achieve. It amazes me how other women help spread sexism by siding with sexist men. It's people like you that hold women back.

dude!!! you people are so weird!! We all know the guys are just kidding! Just relax. Who cares? i don't

A principle at one school ( I cna fuind the book and wute if you want) justified boys and girls harassing a girl in the class by saying nasty things to her every day, writing them all over teh school (in which they refused to clean) and making her life hell (she tried commiting suicide) by saying boys will be boys? something wrong there? hell yeah! people will be people but we should be civil! there is a thing called civilization, we arent cave peopel! there are people that say that men will be men when they rape someone, thats in a mans instinct, is that right. have controll over yourself. by saying boys will be boys you are giving in to unfair stereotypes and saying that behavior is appropriate, people have the right to live with out harrassment.

Im not one to sit back and let someone talk about others, but theres a fine line between just messing around, and actually meaning what you say. sometimes in class the guys will joke around and say "sexist" comments. if a girl makes a sexist comment about a guy, she should be talked to by a teacher , and the same goes for the guys.most of the time we dont realize that what we are saying could offend someone, and that is where we need to stop and think about what is really going on.its not just the guys, us girls do it also.and i guess that when they said "boys will be boys" they were correct, and "girls will be girls" also. you cant change that, and it would be a waste of time to try to.

"...I only know people call me a feminist when i express sentiments that differienate me from a doormat."-rebecca west

I find it horrible tha your connotations for femminists are bad and that if you dont like the comments people make then you are bent out of shape.

and boys will be boys....i hate those phrases. Somepeople might find derogitory comments funny but i myself find them to be insulting. It isnt one or two things that i hear, its not being asked to join in cause im a girl and am not good enough. Everyday I hear the same thing. when i tell the ones that do it to stop, they do it mroe just to bug me. They might be having a grand old time but I think doing that is very rude.

alright i'm sure i'll get some reply from some femenist. I am proud of being a girl as much as the rest of you but come on. if someone is serious when they make these comments i'd be ****ed too. but usually guys at school are just saying to be funny. so come up with your own comment. or scream at them or something. just give them the "the better not be serious or i'll beat your a**" attitude. In my opinion if you can't stand up for yourself you deserve the criticism. if you just stand there and take it your just proving them that men are weaker than women. so stand up to them and who knows it may even become a fun conversation. the only reason to get upset if something was meant to be blatently mean and theres not a hint of humor in their voice (and yes i realize there are still some itiotic men that havent figured it out yet and are still like that)
my next point is though that we get some extreme women that do get quite upset by these comments and then become man haters and become about as worse as the guys with male derrogatory comments. at times these also can be amusing but after a while they turn out to be more heartfealtly (is that a word) mean than the male comments themselves. so have fun with your return comments but know that there is a line that shouldnt be crossed by either side. (sorry if i repeated myself too much)

Girls shouldn't bow their head and role over and play dead. I dislike when guys make those comments but hey I'll just go back and say a dog is a dog. I'd tell a guy if he talk so much stuff tell it to his mother and see if she cooks him dinner to night or any other night. The women of this country or any other country are the back bone. With out us there would be not country. If men keep treating us like were **** (Excuse my language) then who's going to cook them dinner, tell them how great they are, treat them with so much respect. No one. Just cause we are in the kitchen don't me we don't rule this planet. What is a king with out his Queen. So all this sexism stuff has got to go. If it keeps on some women won't keep on bowing down and playing dead. Their going to bite back instead. I'm not talking about the women who are already nibbling. I'm talking about that one girl who sits there and takes and until it boils up and instead of taking a nibble she take a big bite.

but when i say a guy is hot only guys say its gross (unless they are gay) because lots of guys have fragile egos and dont like to admit that others are attractive. That is unless my friends thoughts are different than mine and they think the guy is a dog. I am not stereotyping guys its just a lot of people, guys and girls, dont like admitting how are others are attractive or they think they will thought of as homosexual. Though i dont say other girls are hot I might say their outfit is because I am not attracted to them I just like their clothes or hair or something.

a famous reply in our school is: 'just kidding' that saying is used wayyyyy too much. especially when it comes to a man or woman being a sexist pig about anything. i hate it when a guy says a girl is "hot". then when a girl says a guy is hot they get "ewwww that's gross" (like girls cannot have any sort of sexual feeling). things like that bug the hell outta me.
cat calls are annoying. when i was just a timid little thing in 8th grade i loved them. I will admit, i was pretty starved for attention. but then i grew up, and started listening to Ani Difranco which changed my life, now no guy will bother standing up to me in class. and no guy will ever cat-call me, because they will get a mouth full of whatever comes spewing out of my mouth at that moment. i figure if he is such a big shot, then he should know how to talk to a lady, and that is no way to talk to a lady.
girls should not let males dominate. i think it is more important to be equal than anything else.

I hate that expression sooooo much. we were reading in my english class about sexual harassment and all these girls (and in some case guys) would go to their principles reporting of harassment and in many cases really bad harassment and the principle would say "boys will be boys" there is no excuse for harassment on either sex.

Males have no right to speak about women that way. How would they like it if women condescended to them all the time and told them that all men belong in the fields, pulling a plow from dusk to dawn or digging canals, or engaging in some other back-breaking labor typical of our past generations. We're just about as ready to return to the old "women should be seen and not heard" days as they are to go back to being worthless peasants!

However, I will agree with the males on one seemingly sexist point of view: Women are better at managing families than males. We're also better at making big decisions. Let's face it, we're just more responsible. An old piece of advice (told from male to male) goes: "An intelligent man makes all the small household decisions (where we go on vacation, etc.) but lets his wife make the big ones (should we move to Nebraska?)"

When a guy seems like he's getting all wistful about "ye olden days", make certain he's not trying to compliment women for their excellence in management BEFORE you jump down his throat. I've made this mistake many a time. Try to understand that they are the less articulate of the sexes.

it's hard to post this through all the tears, because your stories of suffering have really touched my cold unfeeling male heart. unfortunately, i'm so macho and out of touch with my feelings that i don't cry. my child within does though


and for the record, sexism is sexism when girls do it too.

I don't know what kind of school Holliewood goes to, but where I live if guys tried to say stuff like that in my school there's no way they would get away with it. The girls here, for the most part, are strong willed and stick up for themselves. Maybe its because I live in a small town and most of us are all friends so the guys respect us. The most sexism that I have ever experienced that has been directed at me has been by older men who think that I can't lift something or am less of a person because I am female. So even though sexism isn't a big deal for me I get really angry when I hear about it or when it does occasionally happen. I think that people who do this need to learn respect. Do the guys who say these things realize that they wouldn't be here without women? I think that the only way that this problem can be solved is if there are consequences for treating people this way and maybe with a little education the people who say this stuff will earn some repect, because no matter who it happens to, sexism sucks.