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Picture of twistedblonde
Registered: December 23, 2004
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How many of us can say that one time or more we have been encounter a clinque or a girl harrassing and blowing our self esteem down? Most guys think the movie "Mean Girls" was just a movie but for some girls it was a reality. I don't think I can count how many times in my 15 years that I have had a problem or a similar problem with a girl in my school. Many girls can relate to it. Going through the bullying, harrassment, and among other hurtful things girls' esteems are lowered. I bet each and everyone of you have wanted to cast revenge on someone but how many have us done it? I could be a mean girl if I wanted to be but I chose not to. As being a girl, I realize girls aren't the nicest human beings. When guys fight it usually isn't long but girl fights are worse and most likely longer. Girls in many ways are more violent then men. How many can say they have started a rumor or had one about them? I bet more then half of you have. Like the girls in the movie, they all had problems. It isn't just one clique over another, its all girls. Girls. Sugar and spice might just be the poison.


..*There�s A Girl In My Mirror Crying Tonight, And There�s Nothing I Can Tell Her To Make Her Feel Alright*..
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Registered: April 18, 2005
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last year in my class there were two groups of girls, and each group had a leader.it turns aut that all the girls in my class were just afraid of that girl, and at the beginning of this year they weren't anymore.Since she "lost power" nobody wanted to put up with her, so she really doesnt have many good friends. Now there is a lot less tension in the class.
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It seems to me that by dwelling on this film, girls seem to understand that they are aggressive, but still do nothing about it


what can we do? try to be nice to everyone seems the only way


..*There�s A Girl In My Mirror Crying Tonight, And There�s Nothing I Can Tell Her To Make Her Feel Alright*..
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Registered: March 31, 2005
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The girls in my class hate eachother one week and are bff the next. I try to stay neutral and so far it's worked.


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Registered: March 08, 2004
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It was a pretty good movie, although it greatly exaggerated things. In a sense, though, that added to its charm.

As for whether or not it's possible not to spread rumors, it depends on what you define a rumor as. If you involve the concept of malicious intent, I think it's actually possible to avoid, although the vast majority of people don't.

In the end, though, I can't rate this movie too highly. Unbelievably, there was no Lindsay Lohan/Rachel McAdams make-out scene. Not one.


And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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Registered: June 14, 2004
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You've never ever retold a story that someone told you that wasn't completely based on facts that you had verified? Yeah right.


I have never told a complete story that wasn't based on fact that I got straight from the person. I'm sure I have said stuff like, "I don't know if this is true or not." But I've never told a story about someone and passed it as fact. That's called a lie. And I rarely tell lies and when I do it's about something that I have done---not something someone else has done.

I don't know why you don't believe me. I'm a girl but I'm not a "mean" girl. I don't spread rumors. I never have.


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Registered: March 19, 2003
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Why is this being treated like a new idea? At one point we;ve all had to face this sort of thing. And brehon i wouldn't waste my time "clawing" you to death that would be a waste of my time. Stop with the stupid female cliches


That might not make any sense but right now I'm too tired to explain it to you or to care .......
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Registered: January 22, 2005
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At the risk of being clawed to death, isn't everyone taking a 'chick flick' as it was described on an internet review, a little too far? It seems to me that by dwelling on this film, girls seem to understand that they are aggressive, but still do nothing about it.


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You may hear the rumor about yourself but it does no good to know it. Even if you deny it nobody will really believe it. I've had soo many rumors started about me, I never really cared. If someone was truly my friend then they would know enough not to believe it or to come straight to me about it. Though I have been pretty upset over some rumors, simply because jokes started to go around, I was called names that I didn't even know the meaning to. It was really bad, girls are out to ruin another girls reputation. They don't want someone else to seem cooler, prettier, or smarte than them. There is actually a Lifetime movie out right now like that, I don't remember what it's called though.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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People spread rumours whether it be in school, your neighborhood, or at work. It's something we've all to live with.


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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And, no, I've never contributed to a rumor. I've listened to others gossip but I've never added my two cents (usually because I don't have a two cents to add in).

You've never ever retold a story that someone told you that wasn't completely based on facts that you had verified? Yeah right.

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Wasn't the point of "mean girls" to show how nasty girls can be?
I understood it to be Highschool in general.


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Registered: December 14, 2004
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Wasn't the point of "mean girls" to show how nasty girls can be?


They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: December 23, 2004
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Even when it was obvious that these girls were not her friends, she still thought they were serious about the party and showed up. How can she possibly be this clueless?


Those girls were her friends before right? Well she thought that they were probably coming around and wanting to be friends. I bet the girl in the movie (I only saw a little as well) started beliving the things the girls said and thats why she stopped eating. Truth is I think the mean girl situation just depends on a lot of things. To me it seemed that the movie on Lifetime showed that the girl felt outnumbered. My point of seeing "Mean Girls" is because it actually happens. Maybe not to everyone but it happens a lot more then what we think. I use to think I was the only girl that went through it. Turns out my best friend went through it too before we ended up being friends. It might just depend on the school enviroment and among other things. This year I didn't let the mean girl senario happen again. I did have one girl go around and tell people I was anorexic hoping to make my life hell I suppose. She told my friends and me that she was going to expose our secrets...truth is I was bulimic but I got the courage up and told the girl if she wanted to talk about she might as well tell it right. I got to the point where I just excepted the facts of life.

Have any of you ever heard or seen how girls say one thing to the face and another behind people's back?


..*There�s A Girl In My Mirror Crying Tonight, And There�s Nothing I Can Tell Her To Make Her Feel Alright*..
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Registered: June 14, 2004
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The girls that thought they were well liked, it was obvious why these girls were not like yet envious.


See, I think if it's obvious why they weren't well-liked then why would it be such a surprise?

I actually watched a movie on Lifetime last night that seemed a little like Mean Girls. I came in the middle of it and didn't stay until the end but here is sort of how it went:

This girl had somehow gotten in bad with her friends. (that's when I came into the movie) The girls were almost torturing her, saying horrible things about her and letting her hear the gossip first hand (like she was fat (she stopped eating as much), had too much hair(she cut it off in her bathroom later), was a s*lut, etc.) and just stuff like that. They wouldn't let her sit at their table at lunch. They also made a horrible website about her and kept sending her links to it. She let one of the girls borrow a paper of hers to use as a model and the girl copied it (of course) but she still took up for the girl when they were in the principal's office. One of the girls actually pretended to be her friend the whole time. That particular girl actually asked Vanessa (the girl on the outs) to a party and when Vanessa showed up, no one was there. This incident was especially worse because Vanessa had been so excited that they were finally going to include her again that when she found out it was a prank, she lost it. I think she tried to commit suicide but I didn't get to that part.

What surprised me more than the teasing girls was this: Vanessa kept on trying to be friends with these girls. She kept clicking on the links they sent her. Even when it was obvious that these girls were not her friends, she still thought they were serious about the party and showed up. How can she possibly be this clueless? I would never let those girls get to me like that. To me, taking that much in about what people say is stupid. I would just ignore them, find some new friends, and get on with my life. When they saw they were no longer affecting me, they would probably leave me alone. I can't even imagine going as far as committing suicide over a couple of silly girls who like to talk junk. I mean, yeah, they said some horrible things but nothing worth dying over. It was just crazy to me.


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Registered: December 23, 2004
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We might seem paranoid but it really does happen. Even listening to a rumor and not saying that isn't true or something is still contributing. Tons of my friends have had rumors about them and they never knew till way later same with me. The girls that thought they were well liked, it was obvious why these girls were not like yet envious.


..*There�s A Girl In My Mirror Crying Tonight, And There�s Nothing I Can Tell Her To Make Her Feel Alright*..
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Registered: June 14, 2004
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Wow, you guys are paranoid. I'm serious about this one. I have so many friends in all four of the different grades at my high school that I would find out eventually. Everyone always hears the rumors being spread about them.

And, no, I've never contributed to a rumor. I've listened to others gossip but I've never added my two cents (usually because I don't have a two cents to add in).

Like I said, I've never seen the movie. These girls who thought they were well-liked: was it obvious why they weren't?


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I get along with pretty much everyone and I don't think I've ever had a rumor spread about me



You might think you get along with everyone but you probably have no idea how people see you. I think you see the movie because like the girls in the movie they thought they were well liked. Plus, you might not of heard the rumor. Trust me if you haven't been through it you have no idea. If you haven't had a rumor said about you have you ever spread a rumor or yet contributed to a rumor by repeating or encouraging it? Most people have. I will admit I am truly guilty of that one.

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I thought it showed that high school isn't wonderful.


High school probably isn't always wonderful. I think high school is personally better then middle school but I don't think it is the best time of my life. Lots of things happen through out your life. I think the best time of my life will be when im married and have a family personally. Girls are mean and it just our nature. We get upset and pissed and we might actually do something about it.


..*There�s A Girl In My Mirror Crying Tonight, And There�s Nothing I Can Tell Her To Make Her Feel Alright*..
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I've had rumours spread about me that were so evil I was kicked out of the damn school.


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I get along with pretty much everyone and I don't think I've ever had a rumor spread about me

Not that you've known about atleast.


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Registered: June 14, 2004
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I never saw the movie but...

I gotta tell ya, while I know girls are worse (boys hit each other and are friends again the next day), I haven't had much personal experience with it. The few people I've had "discussions" with have been people I didn't really care to be friends with in the first place.

I get along with pretty much everyone and I don't think I've ever had a rumor spread about me! I guess I'm just lucky. I didn't know this really happened that much.


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