Hey all...on the "For Christians who read HP" thread we discussed having a different thread to discuss the new book so that people don't need to worry about giving away the ending...Post your thoughts here.

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i can't believe snape killed dumbledore.
that *******.

I think that Dumbledore ordered Snape to kill him. Dumbledore knew about the unbreakable vow (if Snape didn't kill Dumbledore, then Snape would die). Dumbledore realized that he was dying (the black hand) or at least weakening. He determined that Snape would be more valuable to the Order than he would be. By killing Dumbledore, Snape has really convinced powerful death eaters whose side he is on. Probably, he will be able to top-secret info. Also, in Book 6, there is a place where Hagrid tells Harry that Snape and Dumbledore are arguing because Snape is refusing to do something for Dumbledore. I think that will be key.

i can't believe snape killed dumbledore.
that *******.

and leaving hogwarts?
what about peeves?
and the teachers?
and quidditch?
this is all very depressing.

ok thats so wired it has that in my book, but it says ron says that. ok anyway i heard the 5 film is gonna have kool music like "fanz ferdidnad" if im right, but i only heard it from a friend am i right? cause if i am them YIPPIE

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Originally posted by Greenleaf771:
She said something to the effect of "You said there was a time for turning back. We've had our time, Harry." She'll go with him, I'm sure. She'll probably just go back into school afterwards if she doesn't die.

She said something to the effect of "You said there was a time for turning back. We've had our time, Harry." She'll go with him, I'm sure. She'll probably just go back into school afterwards if she doesn't die.

ello im new i have finished the book last night and the 1st thing i thought was there should be more. now i despatly want the next book to come out. Was it me but wen ron said that they were going with harry hermione didn't say anything, did she want to go, was she even listing...ect.

I also think that Neville and Luna are going to end up together.

I wish that there was more to the Ron/Hermione thing!! But do you think that they got together at the end of book 6? You know, when Ron is holding Hermione as she cries?

You know, I think that Draco might turn good. But who knows?

I expected Dumbledore to die, and even though it says that Snape's face was filled with hatred, (I sound hypocritical because i just said that i think he's evil in another post but I changed my mind) I remember that his hand twitched when he was making the unbreakable vow. He HAD to kill Dumbledore, remember! He had no choice.

I personally think that he made the vow because he probably loves Narcissa. Is this a stupid assumption?

And I never guessed about Lupin and Tonks before. Interesting, though, isn't it?

Eh, not to mention that Snape could have killed Harry, but still hasn't...

Well, Sho, I must say... that's just an opinion. Plus, Dumbledore had to have had a pretty darned good reason for trusting Snape in the first place. I also think that Lupin knows that Snape isn't evil because

a) Lupin knows Snape's true side. Although he may not like Snape, as Lupin says, Snape did save him and could have tampered with the potions anytime he liked, but he didn't.

b) Lupin probably knew part of Snape's and Dumbledore's plan. He is after all, also working as a double agent in the werewolf department.

Oh my god, you're good, hubabaloo. You're my hero. I think you're right about Snape being good, because I forgot about the vow... also, about Regulus. I knew he was going to come into it somewhere.

Snape isn't evil. He really isn't. I've worked it out and everything. I think that R.A.B is Regulus Black. All my ships except for Luna/Colin are either fulfilled or have a TON more cannon. I'm happy. But Dumbledore dying is really sad.

You see, Dumbledore and Snape had previously worked out that Snape would kill Dumbledore, because Snape had made the vow. He had to. That's what Dumbledore was yelling at Snape for. Making the vow.

Draco's so turning good. What I think will happen is he'll sacrifice himself at the last moment, and turn good.

Harry didn't suddenly have an infatuation with her. Re-read OotP. Particularly the scene which involves Harry and Ginny eating chocolate in the library.

OMG!!!!!!!!! DUMBLEDORE"S DEAD!!!!!!!!!! I never would have thought that!! HOw is harry supposed to ever finish Voldemort off without him? There were so many things left out. we never found out the story of Dumbledore's hand or where the other horcruxes are or...I was crying more for him than i was for sirious. and then there was SNAPE...im supreised that Dumbledore ever trusted him....im reading it a third time now...

Just to let you know, there's another HBP discussion here.

Ok, in general you're right, that Dumbledore should have been letting Harry get more and more experience on his own. BUT he goes from having people follow him around all the time right to taking just Harry on like the most dangerous mission ever... it just doesn't make sense. If he had told some of his friends where he was going, maybe took a couple of Aurors with them, then he could still be alive...

Of course, that wouldn't have made it nearly so dramatic.

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I couldn't believe they killed him...

It hurt almost at much as losing Sirius.

Dumbledore was my favorite since the first book-definately hurt MORE than Sirius for me...

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I mean, what the hell is gonna happen now? She's changing established facts pretty quickly. Dumbledore went from indefeatable to weak in the space of one book... I feel like a lot of the things she had him do were totally against all of his previous charachter traits. Like, inviting Harry to go along with him alone on a dangerous mission? Nothing his charachter's done before would have indicated that he could do that. And the scene in the beginning with the Dursleys seemed strange to me too, I kept waiting for him to reveal that he was actually a death eater in disguise but it never happened, he was just acting really weird. And then he died.

I actually think a lot of the things he did WERE in his character. After he got his hand burned, he probably realized that he was getting older and he would probably not be able to finish the horcruxes alone. He had to educate Harry about them because of something Harry mentioned int he first book. It was something like, Dumbledore seems to know everything that goes on around here, maybe he knew what I was planning on doing and just wanted to give me a chance. (it was not those exact words, but something relatively close. So I think, in that regard, that is EXACTLY what Dumbledore was doing, what had already been his policy for the past several years. He knew Harry would go to kill Voldemort, so instead of sheltering him, he gave him knowledge and skills necessary to defeat him...

Yeah, um, I curled up in the libary and finished it in three hours.

I couldn't believe they killed him...

It hurt almost at much as losing Sirius.

I mean, what the hell is gonna happen now? She's changing established facts pretty quickly. Dumbledore went from indefeatable to weak in the space of one book... I feel like a lot of the things she had him do were totally against all of his previous charachter traits. Like, inviting Harry to go along with him alone on a dangerous mission? Nothing his charachter's done before would have indicated that he could do that. And the scene in the beginning with the Dursleys seemed strange to me too, I kept waiting for him to reveal that he was actually a death eater in disguise but it never happened, he was just acting really weird. And then he died.

The rest of the book was interesting though, I enjoyed the sub plot between Ron and Hermione immensly. OH! And what was with Harry and Ginny? It seemed like his original romance with Cho was supposed to be less meaningful, yet it was a whole lot better developed. And now, with almost no explination, Harry just becomes infatuated with her...

Man. It felt kind of like reading a bad fanfiction, in some parts anyway. I guess she was trying to squeeze in a lot of plot and explinations into the second to last book, but jeez... it kind of messed with my suspension of disbelief.


Not that I'm a dork, or anything.. :-)

i find the hp books interesting and i am all about exploring new things. even though i am all 4 God!! i think God wants us to learn about things outside of the christian world!we should explore i want to get out of my safe place and see something new!

i have read al the recent hp books, and i think that it shouldnt be a problem for christians.I have a couple of ideas of what happens in the 6th.i am going to the midnite madness book realse tonight to met a guy named harry potter. i saw him on the news he was named before the books came out.n-e ways i wil be up reading into the we hours of the morning.....i am detemined to read it all tonight!!!!well c-ya l8r sk8r!!