hey friends just tell me what are the main mains or objective of the terrroist is to kill people, or is it to jus to create fear among people,or any potilical or religous motive,or is it for fun,or is it due to abuse or racism or it due to casteism or is it due to poverty,or is it for personal reason/selfish reason!!!!wht has made to take the path of terrorism......wht make them to become an terrorist ......or are they forced to become terrorist under certain condotion!!!!......wht is....it can you PLEASE tell me !!!

your segustion are needed...

paisley!! thank you for your contibution!!
very well written!!

... yeah, alot of spelling mistakes

no, obviously not for fun. haha. i suppose people on youthnoise are aware of only the terrorist problems in the usa and the middle east, but like i mentioned in another thread, i come from a country where the reasons for twenty years of guerilla activity are quite different. they were a minority in a country where the majority were ensured all educational and employment opportunities in their own language in a newly independent state. many of them were discriminated and subject to ethnic violence.

what we fail to realize is, that one group's terrorists are another's freedom fighters. there are always deeper reasons that lead them to terrorism; oppression, discrimination, etc;. and often they are not allowed the freedom to speak out or call for reforms. despite the killing of innocent people, they are people who are fighting for their own people. and that's human, isn't it?

sorry friends there are lot spelling mistakes!
SORRY for tht !!

I hope people aren't serious here when they say that the west is the cause for terrorism. If you honestly believe that, and if you honestly believe that we should integrate them and accept them, because "it is obviously a cry for help," you seriously are like no good to the world and need to go somewhere and bury yourself in a hole.

Islamic people SHOULD be integrated into society because yes they are equal. Radical, violent terrorists should be captured and tried for their crimes, and brought to JUSTICE because they are violating the freedom of life to others who are EQUALS. You morons contradict yourselves. why do they have the right to kill innocent civilians, people in government, americans, westerners on the basis of hate if they are so-called equals with the Islamic peoples. So are you saying they are superior? Then you're contradicting yourself even further because you're complaining that we say we are "superior" to the Islamic peoples of the middle East. WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS AND NOTHING... I REPEAT NOTHING... GIVES EXTREMISTS THRIVING ON A MESSAGE OF HATE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE AND WHO DON'T GIVE A DAMN THAT THEY KILL THEIR ON PEOPLE (AGAIN INNOCENT ISLAMIC CIVILIANS) AND CALL THEM MARTYRS FOR THEIR INSANE "CAUSE."

Extremists want power!!!! They do not give a damn about religion, they do not give a damn about freedom, or independence!! THEY WANT LAND WEALTH POWER> VICTORY OVER THEIR SO-CALLED ENEMIES.

THEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS. They are murderers and nothing more. what kind of insane cause will justify murder to achieve their goals? War is different so dont throw that bullsh*t at me.

The KKK, started by the liberal party btw.... as a tool to destroy Reconstructionist supporters and conservatives in the south was an example of a terrorist group... no different than the Islamic extremists. Are you going to say they were justified? John Hinkley, the Unabomber, the Zodiac, Gavrilo Princip, Booth, James Earl Ray, the bank robbers of the Northern Hollywood Shootouts, ALL OF THEM COULD BE TERMED AS TERRORISTS!!! WERE THEY JUSTIFIED IN THEIR INSANE DREAMS OF POWER AND WORLD REVOLUTION AND CREATING NEW ORDER AND FREEING A NATION OF OPPRESSION AND "EVIL?" You are ill if you see the west as the cause of terrorism. You don't see us bombing the British after they gave us independence. Sure, we f**ked them over plenty in the past but what nation hasn't done that to another nation in the past. Everyone acts in their own self-interest. You are reinforcing the stereotypes against Islamic people by grouping terrorists with them as "freedom fighters." Screw you if you think that, you're a flippin moron. I hope you realize how DEAD WRONG you are.

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Originally posted by RaceDriver205:
Sorry my dear I know to much.

LMAO

in think our decision is getting more towards religion.Please do not mix religion and terrorism.They are totally different and cotrasting from each other!!

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and its best you as a peaceful muslim didn't know either.

Again, not a Muslim.

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Raping? where, when, who? stealing? what has been stolen? mugging? what?

No, im not telling you. I myself wish I didn't know, and its best you as a peaceful muslim didn't know either.

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I'm not arguing with you any more because you seem so far past fucking even trying to reason it is PATHETIC.

Sorry my dear I know to much. I know you all want to do the apeasement and lets all get along thing, but its been done before and it nearly ended in global tragedy. I wish people would learn.

key word here racedriver is "extremists." I'm not arguing with you any more because you seem so far past fucking even trying to reason it is PATHETIC.

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"Our society is filth. We need to accept islam and understand that they are equal to us. The terrorism is a cry for acceptance and understanding. We should welcome the muslims into the west with open arms, and combat those who disapprove".

Exactly. We try to integrate, we assert our culture through conditions, like the legal penalization of misogenist conducts and the likes, but on a broader scale we accept their culture. We only use violence to combat violence, like extremists. Most muslims are peacefull and if you ask they will say the exact same thing you have said in many threads, that the jihad fighters and the mujahideen are a bunch of nutjobs.

On a side note, I'm still waiting for you to say something in my capitalism thread, if you can that is...

So much ignorance, I feel I may convert to Islam, nothing to do with being accepted by my gf's Muslim family of course :-D

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Even though they keep killing, raping, mugging, stealing from the people of the west, it doesn't matter for some crazy (left-wing) reason.

killing ok, Muslim extremists have killed. Raping? where, when, who? stealing? what has been stolen? mugging? what?

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You probably think im making it up and the only thing they have done is the London and Twin-tower attacks.

Did you hear about the Madrid bombings? 200 people died and 2000 where injured. I still don't see my country hating muslims though, people here understand that terrorists are a minority and that not all muslims are criminals.

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Woops, that was the hat with the star and moon.

You mean a turkish hat?

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They may not be a very large section of islam, but we did piss this group of nut job extremists off for tromping our crusader boots through the holy land and thus they attack us in the manner of the weak.

Now lets not start the "You started it!" game.

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okay now...why are you being such a jerk? So you think terrorists are just born? There's no reason behind it?

People will make enemies of people. Terrorism seems a effective way for an enemy to attack another if that enemy is of limited means, so I guess it makes sense. The peculiar thing is though, in this enemy-vs-enemy, the one side "the west" hates itself, and the other side "the muslims" do not. The muslims hate the west, but the west more often than not deems it wrong to hate the muslims. Even though they keep killing, raping, mugging, stealing from the people of the west, it doesn't matter for some crazy (left-wing) reason. Indeed, you lot probably won't believe that the muslims are doing these things. You probably think im making it up and the only thing they have done is the London and Twin-tower attacks.

Anyway, to don the pink hat:
"The west is filth. The infidels will succumb to the might of allah, and submit to islam. Then the Ummah will be achieved and the world will be good again."
Woops, that was the hat with the star and moon.
OK, now ive got the right hat:
"Our society is filth. We need to accept islam and understand that they are equal to us. The terrorism is a cry for acceptance and understanding. We should welcome the muslims into the west with open arms, and combat those who disapprove".
Funnily enough these 2 hats were standing side by side when I went to get them

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Terrorism is caused by us the west

true but not for the reasons you say it is. We (the west) have forced our noses in to other people's buisness and [sarcasm]suprisingly[/sarcasm] this has offended people. They may not be a very large section of islam, but we did piss this group of nut job extremists off for tromping our crusader boots through the holy land and thus they attack us in the manner of the weak.

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Originally posted by RaceDriver205:
Politics is the root cause of a lot of things.

OK, just to blend in:
Terrorism is caused by us the west. We have marginalised and oppressed Islam, and the Muslims are justly protesting against this in the best way they can. It is our fault that they are doing the horrible things they do. The west is scum.

(Of course, the real explanation is that they are nutjobs, but its just not marxist enough .)

okay now...why are you being such a jerk? So you think terrorists are just born? There's no reason behind it?

Politics is the root cause of a lot of things.

OK, just to blend in:
Terrorism is caused by us the west. We have marginalised and oppressed Islam, and the Muslims are justly protesting against this in the best way they can. It is our fault that they are doing the horrible things they do. The west is scum.

(Of course, the real explanation is that they are nutjobs, but its just not marxist enough .)

politics is the root cuase of terrorosm!!

Terrorism: An act designed to create fear amongst the general populace in hopes of causing change towards one's political agenda. These acts are carried out primarily against civilian targets. It's violence to make a statement.

Terrorist: A cowardly murdering S.O.B who commits acts of terrorism in the hopes of changing the world to his political ideology (can be disguised as religion, but don't be fooled, it's all politics and power) Usually terrorism is the tool of the weak to appear strong. It's a way for weak, normally ignored groups (like uber-extremeist islam, red party groups in the west and irish seperatists) To make themselves appear to be far more powerful then they really are. Usually terrorist campaigns fail because of the high mortality rate. (
-red revolution = failed yay capitalism!,
-irish seperatists = win suprisingly enough I think the brits just got tired of having them around but still go Ireland!
-uber extremist islam = failed you gotta run out of people dumb enough to strap a bomb to themselves sooner or later + you don't see people converting to islam in droves, you do see people who wanna go hunt down and kill in a vareity of painful ways islamic extremeists which is the exact opposite of the response that a terrorist is looking for.