Exactly, Brehon. The colonials in America were fed up with the way Britain ran things (no offense meant), so they rebelled and thus formed the United States, which ironically turned out to be even stronger than the British Empire ever was. Was the American Revolution justified? As justified as 9/11 was.

Interesting point clpo, and wasn't American founded by terrorists or leapforgging on what you said, extreamist rebels?

I agree also, but I think President Bush should be honest, were not really fighting a war on "terrorism" were liberating a country, I'm not sure why he cannot bluntly just come out and say that...but I def. understand where your comming from. In a sense I just think he as every other U.S. president, is just trying to make the world a "better" place, if that can be done.

clpo, i completely agree with you. when i first heard bush declare war on terrorism, i was confused, how can someone declare war on an idea. now i realize that i should not be confused, but realize that bush is stupid.
how can we fight terrorism by terrorizing? terrorism is not going to end because we attack one country with some terrorists living there.

"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we cant bomb it into peace." -Michael Franti

and sunset, i love your signature! its pure brilliance!!!!!!

this part of the wolrd terrorism stems more from poverty than anything else..and yes it involves a lot a ignorance.....

Terroism: The tool of the weak to apppear strong

That is true but really define terrorism, Have you ever heard that word being used for any other race or religion than that of Arabs and Blacks and Muslims? Have you ever heard of the phrase " 18yr old white boy commited a rape" it is always " 18 yr old boy" it never mentions race but when it comes to another race other than anglo it is always no big deal, why then if i am wrong did norway i believe it or somewhere in scandanavia was get scared and had an attack of some sort first it was said that it was a terrorist attack then it was not a terrorist attack, why was it a difference ?

redrepublican you ***** the Soviet Union collapsed due to the iternal changes instituted by its last president, Mikhail Gorbachev, in order to modernize the state, and correct the faults that their so called "Communism" had provoked. Posterior American administrations just tried to take credit from it.
I'm a drug addict and a school drop out and I know more about politics than you, and if you doubt it question me on any ideological issues you may have.
About the subject of the post I fully agree with clpo13, what he says is RIGHT and TRUE, and the rest of you "annoyingly starry-eyed Republicans" can stfu. Heh, surprised? "An agressive Democrat?? what the hell is that??"
I feel really sorry for most of you anyways, I know political beliefs in most cases are adopted through one's family, I'm sorry you got the wrong families.
I'm a very agressive left wing activist, and I don't care if you flame me for what I post here. (cause' all I'm gonna get as a response are flames, no fundamented answers)

like i said. terrorism has been around for thousands of years. but the threat wil go away only through global support. as bush said. this is a global war which mean we need global support.

Yeah, I think th people with at least half of a brain has figured that out. If people honestly believe that it is gone, they're a *******.

There has just recently been another Anthrax scare.

Anthrax Scare
-Sunset

clpo13 makes a good point.

Terrorism is something that cannot be stopped by a war. Ti cannot be stopped by anything but changing the way people feel about the government and other nations.

If we decrease the tensions between nations, terrorism will decrease as well. But there will always be terrorism, those few people who believe they are making a statement by killing or hurting people.

You cannot fix terrorism, a form of violence, with war, another form of violence, because meeting fire with fire solves nothing.

this reminds me of the intro to Animal Farm. They talked about the doom and gloom o fhte coming Communisitc Reign on the world. how the Soviets would never be stopped. they would always be there and would control the world.
of course that book wdidnt account for any brave cowboys [reagan] coming along and toppling the soviets.

This is exactly why I laugh at American's saying "war against terrorism" and such. Terrorism, whether you like it or not, will NEVER go away. Period. Get over it.

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Bushism of the day:
"In terms of timetables, as quickly as possible — whatever that means." —George W. Bush, on his time frame for shoring up Social Security, Washington D.C., March 16, 2005

You cannot fight a war on terrorism any more than you can fight a war on say- happiness. Terrorism is a tactic, you can't fight a tactic. There will always be people who hate, want to hurt, because it is the human way, just as it is human nature to be optimistic and find pleasure in even the most dire and depressing of situations.

A war on terrorism is horribly contradictory anyway (depending on your definition of terrorism). Our invasion in Iraq could be considered terrorism, and yet that was to fight terrorism. Dictionary.com defines terrorism as "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons." The War on Iraq was certainly unlawful, as we completely disregarded the UN, etc, and under the vague umbrella of "War on Terrorism," we have vehemently ignored international humanitarian laws involving interrogation and torture. It was against a group ("terrorists") with the intention of both intimidating AND coercing the society (of terrorists) and government (Sadaam Hussein's) for ideological (to spread democracy) and political (fill in anything here) reasons. So basically, its fighting terrorism with terrorism. And another thing, one of the reasons they hate us is because of our stances in the middle east. You do not seriously believe that terrorists will like America any better because of the invasion of Iraq? Any number of roadside and suicide bombs will prove otherwise. By attacking Iraq, we are simply making them hate us more, which makes them want to kill us even more. That, my friend ilovebush, is why the WoT is not only pointless, but disgustingly ironic and basically, a vicious circle.

Bushism of the day:
"In terms of timetables, as quickly as possible — whatever that means." —George W. Bush, on his time frame for shoring up Social Security, Washington D.C., March 16, 2005

All right, I'll narrow my "annoyingly starry-eyed Republicans" bit to redrepublican, happy? No, of course not because no one's ever happy.

People too often confuse "realist" with "pessimist". You are one of them.

I need to give proof? Where's your proof that I need to give proof? This whole "back up your argument you stupid liberal" thing is getting on my nerves. Are you blind? Read the newspaper, watch the news, ask ANYONE who is smart. This is like the war on drugs of a few years back. You'll never get rid of people who want drugs. It's a simple fact. I sure hope you know why. Just the same, you can't get rid of terrorism because people will never all be satisfied. So why wage war against something that won't go away? It's futile in that respect, and it's pointless because it's wasting us lots of money. Have you ever been to Retro vs. Metro? They have a War in Iraq cost counter. At the time that I right this, it is at $165,607,390,000 and rising at the rate of hundreds of dollars a second. Thousands of dollars a second. And you tell me it's worth it. How? Because the Iraqi's have had a free and successful election? An election with American troops guarding the poll stations, you mean.

How about we start working to fix the situations from which terrorism arises instead of blasting every person who wears a turban. For instance, we could cut down on being oppressive so the Muslims won't think we're evil. And yes, America is oppressive. If you can't see this, then you're worse off than I previously though. Well, actually, we're more 19th century British imperialistic. Which could be called oppressive.

I (and since I'm a republican, I'm taking it like you are saying it to me) never said that terrorism will disappear like that. But, I know (remember, I have many family members in Iraq right now) that we are getting rid of many terrorists (small groups but its better than nothing) organizations.

Duh people will never be happy - obviously you are one of them because you cant get past the negative things in this world to see any of the positives. But you need to give proof and get your facts straight before you say that the War On Terrorism is pointless and futile and isnt being won. Please and Thank You.