Heres a good one for all of you young folks that can do nothing but b!tch moan and complain. what exactly has george bush done that has effected you so much to where he has obtained the title "worst president ever"? i know what hes done for me and i cant complain. i know what i got into when i joined up. and quit using the "hes sent america to its grave" BS sophistry, that crap doesnt cut it anymore. Im sure that if Al Gore would have made the same decisions people would be praising him for liberating iraq. the US Soldiers that died because they faught for something they believe in. would you be willing to do the same?

on the underdogs we have supported (though they fought and won their freedom orgionally) the world's biggest underdog Israel when even the Brits who set up the nations backed off their support and our support of Israel is a pretty good investment as they have kicked on every army in the Persian Gulf region that belongs to an Arab nation all of them repeatedly.

But Kid is society is so evil what belongs in it's place? tell us what thei nation needs to change?

Oh and btw the American Revolution is described by many people involved as "a war of revolution" we sure as hell got freedom out of that war.

Kidd I'm sorry to say this, but your being childish, I read your post 4 times, and thought about breaking it down piece by piece, but no one really wants to read a post that was 8 pages long on word before i posted it. Where in history do we support the overthrow of revolutionaries and rebellions? Generally America likes an underdog hense Korea and Nam.

nope dictators are murderers too. so are the kings and queens of europe that used to lead their countries as dictators. Anyone else you want to ask me about? That being said: so are presidents.

This country was founded by revolution. A people's revolution. War is a tool of tyrants and dictators to control people, kill people and profit off of their death and suffering. Rebellion is a tool of the people to throw off such boundages and end suffering. Conservatives are so quick to praise the American Revolution but then they support the overthrow of revolutionaries and rebellions all over the world. Their position is one of pure political gain and not of true belief.

Freedom is not granted because of war. It never has been. Freedom has been granted in EVERY instance because of large movements of ordinary people standing up against their governments and systems of oppression that run their lives.

if anyone would like to inform me of many specific examples where our freedom was greatly enhanced by the invasion of Iraq as opposed to GREATLY LIMITED... I am all ears.

if anyone would like to explain to me how the deaths of over 2,100 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis has made us safer... I am all ears.

if anyone would like to explain to me how the hypocritical use of chemical weapons against Iraq that BURNED INNOCENT civilians alive expanded our freedom or made us safer.... I am all ears.

if anyone would like to explain how the use of depleted uranium which is raising cancer rates where ever it is used is helping to make the world a better place.... I am all ears.

How about the barbarity in fallujah which killed thousands of innocent Iraqis to "save them from the insurgency"?

The fact of the matter is. The war in Iraq, the President, and the Congress are making us LESS SAFE everyday.

Everyday we are forced to live with LESS FREEDOM.

Why? Because war is profitable to those who rule society.

And there are those on the left that fight everyday to oppose those who would have us live under tyranny, here and all over the world. We oppose the criminalization of dissent and protest. We oppose dictators, but we also oppose the imperialistic aims of the United States government and other world powers. We oppose occupation, war and colonization: In Iraq and all over the world. And we stand in solidarity with people all around the world fighting for a better world for themselves and their children.

oh so all presidents are murderers. and dictators are kind hearted people that let their citizens prance around with free will right? or lets take the kings and queens of the european countries, like they dont behead people and crap like that. like hyrok said, what would you prefer? apparently you have some vast knowledge of how to run a country and lead its people to victory in all aspects why dont you enlighten us. but better yet, why dont you tell us how old you are first so we can see if your tales of grandure are even credible. any 1/2 dead moron with a keyboard can sit here and talk crap all day and not give a good reason for it so lets hear what you have to say, but dont waste our damn time with your nonsense talk about all presidents are murderers. GET OVER IT!!!! this country was founded because of war, freedom is granted because people have to die. i take it the whole armed forces are a bunch of murderers too huh?

true and I like the new sig Hydrok

"all presidents are murderers"- Kidd

So what would you prefer oh one of vast knowledge?

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Originally posted by YoungWorld:

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people who want an anarchist system do not want "chaos." They want the lack of government.

But the lack of government, can undoubtingly turn into chaos.

I was expressing what they desired and the intention that lies in their hearts.... not whether it would be successful or not. I am not an anarchist.

well. just because it might not have affected you, that doesn't mean it hasn't affected other people. its clearly subjective. and for the people who have compassion that doesn't end at our borders, I find your response utterly distasteful and nationalistic.

he "chose" to take your cousin away?? how did he choose this? did your cousin not sign that contract and swear that oath saying that they would obey the orders of the president? im sorry to hear about your loss but you cannot blame your cousins death on the president when it was your cousin who chose to join the armed forces. and him supposidle "murdering" all of these people effected you in what way again?

he chose to take away my cousin caleb. he chose to murder thousands of innocent people. thats what hes done

Let me ask Kidd, do you know of a successful anarchist society?

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people who want an anarchist system do not want "chaos." They want the lack of government.

But the lack of government, can undoubtingly turn into chaos.

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Originally posted by Euterpe:
Hey dfresh, do you even know what your avatar stands for? It's called "anarchy." It means you don't really want government so much. You shouldn't be concerned about how Bush is fucking up America, or if there's an America to fuck up..you want the chaos.

Maybe you shoud do a little research before picking a pretty design Avril Lavigne had scribbled on her drumset.

people who want an anarchist system do not want "chaos." They want the lack of government.

but i can't help but wonder about the flag turned upside down comment. i think they need a new avatar.

That was much better than mine Euterpe

SLAP!!! good one Terpe... I didn't wanna say anything lol

Hey dfresh, do you even know what your avatar stands for? It's called "anarchy." It means you don't really want government so much. You shouldn't be concerned about how Bush is fucking up America, or if there's an America to fuck up..you want the chaos.

Maybe you shoud do a little research before picking a pretty design Avril Lavigne had scribbled on her drumset.

personally Dfresh you probaly don't need to worry about having children in the first place and I hate to tell you this but people are gonna hate and make war on each other no matter what and bush has not made us a war based nation this nation was born in the fires of battle or do they say The American Revolution was a bloodless war?

The Question is not what he has done for me, but what will happen in the future because of his actions. I dont want to wake up one morning and find the flag upside down when everyone decides to fuck up america! It angers me that maybe one day, my future children will have to live in the spilled melting pot of hatered, greed, disgutingly large ammount of pride, and war loving inhuman pigs that Bush has led us to!

she was still and idiot the only diffrence between her (clinton) and the bush twins is the father(may want to check that George) and there are two bush twins