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Picture of bluedemocrat
Registered: December 14, 2004
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What was it about?


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Did anyone see that thing on 20/20 last night? What is everyone's opinion on that area?


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quote:
Originally posted by armybrat:
I think women should be drafted too, both men and women should serve their country. I also think women should be on the frontlines. Women should be equal as to men.


But they arn't, I mean how can i put this in terms everyone can understand... Men and women dont have the same body parts which makes them more vulnerable to certain forms of torture, interrogation, and it also causes the men a lot of problems. For example:

A man and woman are captured together by the enemy, they take the woman into the room to interrogate her, while they do this, they are abusing her, beating her, sexually assulting her for information, the entire time the man, her commrad is made to watch, because if he gives info they will stop beating her. And if he shows any anger the enemy will kick the crap out of the male.

I dont want to be put into that position.


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I think women should be drafted too, both men and women should serve their country. I also think women should be on the frontlines. Women should be equal as to men.
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Originally posted by bella123:
That's a gross generalization and didn't make you win brownie points with me.


I'm a 1N031 if you care to look it up, and thats a job that most women can do without the stress but on my base they also train the firefighters, and notice there are only 2 female spark puppies in class right now, go figure, they all wash out.

but any ordinary woman cant feasibly be a combat control, paratrooper, combat weather rescue, loadmaster, etc... they are by far to physically demanding and stress intensive, not to mention the afore mentioned forward deployed issue


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That's a gross generalization and didn't make you win brownie points with me.


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i agree with hydrok on this one. its proven all across the world that women make deadlier killers. that is untill they let emotion settle in. being in the navy, there arent too many hard core women, in fact most of them are the reason people hate women in the military. they happen to get pregnant right before were about to deploy to japan or the middle east or where ever, they say they can do the exact same work as men yet moan and complain whenever they have little tasks to complete and lastly, the one i just HATE, is they use what god gave them, to signify that they are women, and get whatever they want, when they want. its basically like prostitution. now im not all against women in the military by any means, but women in certain jobs i am against. i load ordnance, it is a very demanding job both physically and mentally, but more physical. i have yet to meet a female that can do the job as well as, if not better then your average male AO (aviation ordnanceman). yet i constantly see ships and squadrons packed with these 5'3 100 lb females that "said" they can do the job yet run away when they are asked to do the very job they are soooooooo "qualified" for. i also blame the navy recruiters and people at MEPs. according to regulations all people applying for my job should be able to dead lift 80lbs over their head, no questions asked, no ifs ands or buts. yet these people just want to shove bodies into the navy so they gundeck the paperwork. its all BS. so women should just really think about the jobs they are truely suited for, not ones that could hurt them or others just because they are woman proud.


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NOPE WRONG AGAIN

Studies have shown that the only thing more scary than a marine looking at you with a gun in his hand is a female marine with a gun in her hand.


Sorry but women in the military are tough ****, problem is that their bodies arn't built to cope with some of the forward deployed environments which causes them to have severe problems with thier bodily functions. Not cool.

And then you have other factors like the ones that made it through basic by the grace of god, that use thier boobs to get what they need.

But pretty much if they cant handle the task thier going to be given they will be discharged long before they see a battle field.


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Originally posted by finn620:
hormon? Do you mean hormones? If so, do not give me that s***. Female hormones are no more troublesome than male hormones.


Well said. I agree.


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hormon? Do you mean hormones? If so, do not give me that s***. Female hormones are no more troublesome than male hormones.


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finn I'm against women in male specops units if there were women only specops units I'd be fine with it as long as it stays segreagated specops is just to tough for males to have hormon trouble so if wimen want to with the same standards as male teams for all female specops teams it's good with me though the military would squash attempts like a bug and I'm pretty sure it's illegal some where in our legal system some supreme court case or another.


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hey why cant we all juss get along? i hate all this biting off each others head crap .. cant we be nice please?


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Women should be included in the draft. We have fought like h*** these last hundred years for equality in this world and we can't just back down for certain things that we suddenly dont want to be equal in. I do not agree with war in any sense, and consider myself a conscientous objector, but that isnt based on the fact of my gender. If I did believe in war, I would still have every responsibility to respond to the draft as well sa any man.


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At my school the girls had to take a "womens empowerment" class, and we learned that at the US airforce academy in colorado there is a pattern of women pilots get raped by the men. It's not just by enemies that women soldiers are getting raped!


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Why are you so against women in special forces?


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said it before here it is again women in US military sure, Draft NO, women in combat yes, women in specops NNOOOO WAY. that is the extremely condensed version


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And Hydrok's post is an example of the only thing I really hate about the military: the control. I hate how those people have complete and udder control over every move you make. To me, it's crazy.

And I've already replied about the men vs. women thing. I think a draft should still only be for men. But women, given the same requirements as men, should be allowed in the military as well. That's the short version.


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Originally posted by Meagan87:
Whoever said that women should not be in the armed forces because "more bad things can happen to them" should really watch the news...

We have already proven that guys can be tortured just as easily...um, beheadings anyone?


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Whoever said that women should not be in the armed forces because "more bad things can happen to them" should really watch the news...

We have already proven that guys can be tortured just as easily...um, beheadings anyone?


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