Whether I am able to pay now or never, I will get a post secondary education. No excuses.

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Alright I did a bit of research and found that the primary winner of scholorships in our school was the son of a vet. And his winnings were about 12k total. Sorry pal but that aint much.

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So there were scholorships given to your school. That is much different than none.

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If I said my parents "couldn't" finance me, I was wrong, I should have said wouldn't. But I dont expect you to understand, and I thouroghly expect you to continue your beratement, saying how I'm dodging responsibility...

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Don't assume what I will or will not understand. my mother won't pay for my sister to go to college and she won't pay for any of us. There are ways you can get around that though, and obviously, you didn't explore the options. It was your choice to not go to college then, and that's your choice, but don't blame your school or the college for you not going.

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But there are 2 things in this world, controllable and uncontrollable circumstances, and unfortunatly mine is full of the uncontrolable kind.

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There are 2 kinds of statements. Truth and BS. Unfortunatly, your claim is BS.

Alright I did a bit of research and found that the primary winner of scholorships in our school was the son of a vet. And his winnings were about 12k total. Sorry pal but that aint much.

And my family on it's income doesn't permit me much financial aid. If I said my parents "couldn't" finance me, I was wrong, I should have said wouldn't. But I dont expect you to understand, and I thouroghly expect you to continue your beratement, saying how I'm dodging responsibility... But there are 2 things in this world, controllable and uncontrollable circumstances, and unfortunatly mine is full of the uncontrolable kind.

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I dont know what your whole diatribe about it being my fault and that i need to take responsibility, when thats exactly what I'm doing.

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you blamed a bad education on your school. And then you also blamed not going to college on them saying "it's not my fault". You never mentioned that you were going to college now. And if you are, then how is your education not comparable to hers?

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I couldn't afford college because I wasn't able to get scholorships because I was not able to compete with students from other school districts that were offered more classes and opportunity than I was.

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If you knew anything about colleges, you'd know they take the classes offered into consideration.

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The only thing I can be blamed for is not taking out a 28k student loan...

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Did you ever apply for scholorships? The school also gives financial assistance when you send in your FASCA form.

Ok lets review this one more time... I cant afford college, so I didn't go, I couldn't afford college because I wasn't able to get scholorships because I was not able to compete with students from other school districts that were offered more classes and opportunity than I was.

The only thing I can be blamed for is not taking out a 28k student loan... oh but look... I am going to college now... just took me longer to get there, so I dont know what your whole diatribe about it being my fault and that i need to take responsibility, when thats exactly what I'm doing.

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Arn't you a freshman yogore? so you were a 7th grader helping your sister fill out college applications? Did you write her letter too?

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Sophmore. But I never said I did a ton. I just took observance of what happened. Don't try and discredit me. Just because I was nyounger doesn't mean I was clueless.

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My education is a product of the society I live in, very little can be blamed on me. I dont have rich parents, I dont live in a rich neighborhood.

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I am not rich. I do not live in a rich neighbourhood but I take responcibility. You just dont want to take responcibility for you doing badly. Even with my classes, I did work beyond what was required and strived to do better.

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But I still lack the ability to pay for it, especially when one's parents arn't willing nor able to finance it. College aint cheap son. And a lot of people qualify for some kind of financial aid, or student loans... but you'll have to pardon me for not wanting to be 28k in debt when i finish college.

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So it was your choice not your schools fault that you couldn't go to college. My sister is paying for college herself. You act like your situation is "oh so terrible" and unique, but it's not. Who cares about New York and regents? MA has MCAS, and they are the same deal.

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She asked if I was so smart what education path I was taking. It was a cheap shot. And it is obvious to me that you have no clue how the college application system works, you would also note that it wasn't just the classes holding me back, but the financial aspect as well.

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DOn't give me the financial BS. I am sure there are many worse off than you who still manage to go to college. I don't think it was a cheap shot. you cannot take responcibility for your education (or lack there of). If you had wanted to, you could have done well in school and gone off to college. All you want to do is blame your bad education and lack of going to college onto someone else. Take responcibility.

And i am very farmiliar with college applications. I helped my sister with hers two years ago.

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Arn't you a freshman yogore? so you were a 7th grader helping your sister fill out college applications? Did you write her letter too?

My education is a product of the society I live in, very little can be blamed on me. I dont have rich parents, I dont live in a rich neighborhood.

I cant help the fact that my school was not set up to allow me to succeed. I also live in New York, if that means anything to you. Regents tests and all. I graduated with honors, and was accepted to multiple colleges... the best being University Of Rochester. But I still lack the ability to pay for it, especially when one's parents arn't willing nor able to finance it. College aint cheap son. And a lot of people qualify for some kind of financial aid, or student loans... but you'll have to pardon me for not wanting to be 28k in debt when i finish college.

And Hydrok, I was just reminded, state schools accept almost everyone, even people who don't take AP or honors classes.

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She asked if I was so smart what education path I was taking. It was a cheap shot. And it is obvious to me that you have no clue how the college application system works, you would also note that it wasn't just the classes holding me back, but the financial aspect as well.

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DOn't give me the financial BS. I am sure there are many worse off than you who still manage to go to college. I don't think it was a cheap shot. you cannot take responcibility for your education (or lack there of). If you had wanted to, you could have done well in school and gone off to college. All you want to do is blame your bad education and lack of going to college onto someone else. Take responcibility.

And i am very farmiliar with college applications. I helped my sister with hers two years ago.

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Colleges look at what kind of AP classes you took, i took 2 BIO and AP american history, and I'm sorry to say but with the best grades in the world no one from my school is going anywhere because of good grades, out of my town. the valedictorian is going to ferdonia... big deal.

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They also look at what classes were available to you. I think people from your school can go onto good colleges. I'm getting the impression you just say that they can't because you didn't/couldn't.

What exactly was Meagan's analogy that you say doesn't hold through?

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She asked if I was so smart what education path I was taking. It was a cheap shot. And it is obvious to me that you have no clue how the college application system works, you would also note that it wasn't just the classes holding me back, but the financial aspect as well.

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Colleges look at what kind of AP classes you took, i took 2 BIO and AP american history, and I'm sorry to say but with the best grades in the world no one from my school is going anywhere because of good grades, out of my town. the valedictorian is going to ferdonia... big deal.

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They also look at what classes were available to you. I think people from your school can go onto good colleges. I'm getting the impression you just say that they can't because you didn't/couldn't.

What exactly was Meagan's analogy that you say doesn't hold through?

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Originally posted by yogore:
you cannot say your education was bad because you went to a small school. Just because you have few AP classes does not mean you don't have challenging courses. You need to quit complaining that your education was so horrible just because it was a "small" school with only 3 AP classes.

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and for the record i wasn't complaining... i was making it clear that meagans analogy doesn't hold water.

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Originally posted by yogore:
you cannot say your education was bad because you went to a small school. Just because you have few AP classes does not mean you don't have challenging courses. You need to quit complaining that your education was so horrible just because it was a "small" school with only 3 AP classes.

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man are you ever on a role tonight... again you missed the point. Colleges look at what kind of AP classes you took, i took 2 BIO and AP american history, and I'm sorry to say but with the best grades in the world no one from my school is going anywhere because of good grades, out of my town. the valedictorian is going to ferdonia... big deal.

you cannot say your education was bad because you went to a small school. Just because you have few AP classes does not mean you don't have challenging courses. You need to quit complaining that your education was so horrible just because it was a "small" school with only 3 AP classes.

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Originally posted by yogore:
I think your town has more than 2000 people in it if your graduating class was 145. That's ig compared ot my town. Our HS (which is two towns) has a graduating class of about 70 every year.

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wow lets all have a smallest school award... my point was that i didn't have the luxuries that meagan seems to enjoy, so she really cant compare her education to mine.

I think your town has more than 2000 people in it if your graduating class was 145. That's ig compared ot my town. Our HS (which is two towns) has a graduating class of about 80 every year.

And we only have 5 AP level classes.

I think i should point out that we had mandatory snow days on opening day for the norther tier and closing day of muzzleloading season.

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Well, she doesn't give the impression it is a rural school. Wasn't it her school that just put cameras in the hallways?

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Yeah, and that used to be my school, and thats a relatively big deal... like putting computers in the high school 4 years ago... yeah thats right, our school didn't have computers until 2000. our town has about 2000 people in it, I graduated in the largest senior class in history of the school with 145. Get the idea?

Well, she doesn't give the impression it is a rural school. Wasn't it her school that just put cameras in the hallways?

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Well, then why doesn't she have the same problems with the school district?

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How do you know that she doesnt... plus she's a sophomore, i graduated last year, when I was in school I could only take SUPA BIO, Calculus and AP American History