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Picture of youthforchange
Registered: April 24, 2006
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What do you think of this? How will this affect the war in Iraq? In Afganistan? The situation in the Middle East? Will this improve Bush's apporval rating? How will this change how we look at the War on Terror?

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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Soldiers are not "normal" people, they are warriors who have dedicated their lives to the defense of others that leaves them a cut above in my book.

I'm just pointing out that killing him was a very good thing. It may not be the main objective but it's definetly a nice bonus for the year


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Hydrok, maybe we would see soldiers differently if you acted like normal people, not as if you were shit, but not like kings.

Amp, the initial point of this war was not to have this man killed. Don't make it as it was. And these terrors you spoke of occur in many parts of the world and the US ignores it.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Hey us jarheads are really nice guys once you get to know us...okay we're killing machines but I contest the "mindless" portion that's the army that has no brains

You want evil? you want genocide? you want violations of human rights that would make hitler blush? (or at least say that he wished he had thought of it) go to the city of Tal-A'far and speak with the Mayor or heck any of the citizens I'm certain will be happy to talk with you. Before the 3rd ACR liberated the city it was Zarqawi's base of operation. The city was shut down and people were being beheaded in the streets by zarqawi's scum. Children were being killed and loaded with explosives so that when parents came to mourn over their dead young they would be killed as well.
How's that for evil?

And I'll tell you what I'll kill any scum that can do shit like that while I'm singing a song with a smile on my face.


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: December 05, 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
Nifty drugs will get you out of the military.

Which may be a good thing.


Surely you jest, as the miltary puts me on them to begin with so I can be the mindless killing machine you all make us out to be, especially my Marine brotheren.

While yes that was a bit overboard, my initial argument remains, why should people be able to claim that the military commited genocide (a complete misuse of the word as we did not exterminate) however, I get in trouble as per usual for defending against such ignorant accusations that people read and take for truth. I cant have that now can I?


This world needs failures, someone has to make chicken nuggets and someone has to give the lap dances. If your really smart you know where to get em both at the same time.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Nifty drugs will get you out of the military.

Which may be a good thing.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: December 05, 2005
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I really wish kidd would post more while i was under the influence of nifty drugs like tonight


This world needs failures, someone has to make chicken nuggets and someone has to give the lap dances. If your really smart you know where to get em both at the same time.
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Registered: December 05, 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Kidd:
The death of zarqawi will only mean a strengthened resistance. He was one of the people keepeing a solidified national liberation movement from forming. His death will only solidify the resistance and make him a martyr for the very small minority who liked him. Either way, the civil war in Iraq is only going to increase in severity. This was man who helped to stop such a movement of national liberation from forming. When the US Military committed acts of genocide in Fallujah, the resistance could have really radicalised. Anyone who knows anything about the resistance in Iraq should know that Zarqawi certainly wasn't the token hit the US media is making him out to be.


Well seeing how my account hasn't been re-activated yet, I'm going behind enemy lines to reply to this, horrible accusation.

Only you and people like you could give such creedence to a terrorist. Blindly look over the positives, skim through the negatives, distort those then make your own set of "facts" completely different from reasonable proven fact.

See this is why I'm a little ticked off, because I reported this post along with my issue with it days ago... yet it still stands.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I PRESENT TO YOU THE POSTER LIBERAL FOR YN!!!! *applause applause*

I would love to deliver your eulogy! Maybe we can have a genocide themed casket, with the screaming faces of 3000 plus victims of 9-11 and the stone hard faces of the troops as they stare at you as if they would kill you if it was not against our mission.

Again it's obvious you know relatively little about the actual situation and in light of time efore my medication kicks in and the whole world is in trouble we're gonna keep this short.

You missed the part where Zarqawi is paying for attacks *scratch one money man* we took out an entire base of operations. I think being the leader of the most feared terrorist cell in Iraq is a mighty fine title to die with.

Oh but whats this he's got? by darn it's the overused and underpaid expression of Genocide... yeahh... it didn't happen that way... but someone take the blame.. congressman? nonono, senator? nononono, President? huh? nononono, rummy? noononono... oh brainstorm came and said real loud, i'm supprised someone didn't get struck by lightning in this brain storm.
BUT SOMEONE SAID
Blame It On The Fuckin ToopsBlame It On The Fuckin Toops


This world needs failures, someone has to make chicken nuggets and someone has to give the lap dances. If your really smart you know where to get em both at the same time.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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this just in:

New Al-Qaeda leader in Iraq has been named and is thought to be operating out of south bagdahd

Also US Military sources say that the Al-Qaeda battle plan for Iraq has been discovered on a Hard Drive left over in the ruins of Al-Zarqawi's Safe House


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: September 07, 2002
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The death of zarqawi will only mean a strengthened resistance. He was one of the people keepeing a solidified national liberation movement from forming. His death will only solidify the resistance and make him a martyr for the very small minority who liked him. Either way, the civil war in Iraq is only going to increase in severity. This was man who helped to stop such a movement of national liberation from forming. When the US Military committed acts of genocide in Fallujah, the resistance could have really radicalised. Anyone who knows anything about the resistance in Iraq should know that Zarqawi certainly wasn't the token hit the US media is making him out to be.


From Iraq to Palestine, Occupation is a Crime!
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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exactly not to mention this slimebag diserved death just as much as Osama and some of the other top slime in his orgnization, my only regret is that if the airforce left any body behind it will be buried in muslim fashion in a unmarked grave so I can't go dance on it when I tour the graves of soon to be dead slime balls(first stop osama, they just need to bury him first)


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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Thats just sheer ignorance (to not know that Al-Zarqawi didn't exist.

I dont think anyone truly believes this will stop terrrorism, however the figurehead dying is a cause for immediate strong action on the enemies part, but without organized leadership, it tends to make the attacks become less organized when they money all dissapears.


"So others may die" - USAF Intel Targeteer Motto (607th AIS)
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Anyone who believes this man dying will stop terrorism should get a better world history class.

I just laugh at how people act like Osama has been killed. Suddenly it's like the point of the war was to kill this man, and I imagine many people didn't even know he existed until a few days back.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: April 24, 2005
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What is interesting is Bush's response, no longer is he touting something like this as a milestone, or a turning point. Really shows how the American administrations past claims have come to nothing, bush obviously doesn't wish to take another popularity hit for claiming this is going to lead to something when it clearly isn't. his death will not affect the level of insurgency.


'it's better to have your ministers inside the tent pissing out than outside, pissing in'
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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excellent, scratch one scumbag! Smile


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: May 07, 2003
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Yay! I don't know how much this will affect the war...they will just get another head honcho who will become our next #1... (sorry 'boutt he pessimism...)


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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HEYOOO!!!!

Yep dead as a door nail, this is going to create a significant backlash from AQI for the first few weeks, but overall it is a turning point in Iraqs history, but on a more important note, the Iraqi parlament confirmed the minister of defense as well as interior today, tis a good day.


"So others may die" - USAF Intel Targeteer Motto (607th AIS)
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