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Picture of djmagnusa
Registered: January 18, 2003
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Caraisnette,
Maybe you should learn something before you speak. The president does have the power to go to war with OUT the Senates approval; it is called the Emergency War Powers Act instituted into the constitution during WW2. As for your comments on support the president crap, please just sit down and go back to school. We are a country that is based off of freedom of speech, which you are using right now, so way shouldn't other people be able to speak their mind. As for criticizing and saying that they sit back and reap all the benefits, what are you doing right now? Just because you support the President doesn't change the fact that you are reaping the benefits. What allows you to pass any judgment on anybody at the age of 14; you wouldn't know work if it came straight up and kicked you in the ***.
Also we the people make this country, we are country for the people by the people, and we are not an oligarchy.
Registered: January 11, 2003
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Who the heck do you people think you are? You live in this country, you eat the food grown on its soil, you buy its products and participate in its school systems and businesses, you reap all the benefits this country has to offer and yet you sit back on your lazy bums and critize the man who runs the country you live in. If you cant support the leader and his decisions, maybe you should consider leaving and immigrating to another country. The last thing he needs are people like you standing back and critizing his decisions without taking action of your own. What would you do in his position? You probably wouldn't know what to do. And another thing, dont hate the president for making a decision to go to war, for your information, he cannot command the army to fight without permission from congress...funny how you can critize without knowning what you are talking about first.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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read it for yourself

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/18/sprj.irq.bush.poll/index.html

45 countries back sending troops to Iraq
Picture of BillyBarrio
Registered: March 08, 2003
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I support him fully, at least he didn't pass the buck like Clinton did!
Picture of geminiangel521
Registered: August 17, 2001
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I wouldn't want his job...
Registered: March 06, 2003
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I dislike Bush, very much.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Bush has done wonderful things! Like.. sending American troops to Iraq because he's so eager for war Wink
Picture of Dante
Registered: April 27, 2002
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What are "these things" he has supposedly done?
Registered: January 27, 2003
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I am behind Bush 200%. He has done more for this country than you could think of. He certainly did more than Clinton did. Bush is a great president. If you can't see that, STOP COMPLAINING! There are worse things in this country than you think. So, OPEN YOUR EYES, AND STOP DAYDREAMING! Look at the things that he has done for this country, not the stuff that you think he could've or should've done! It's people like you that make me sick. You don't know how to do anything other than complain!
Look at yourself. Put yourself in Bush's shoes. He has done more than you think. He took on the job of being president without you "highly egotistic" people behind him. It's time to wake up and smell the roses. Get over yourself! Mad

Yours truly,
CCheergirl102
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Registered: April 27, 2002
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Pre-Facistic Times Under Bush, Democracy On the Ropes

Gaining An Empire,
Losing Democracy?
Iraq Is An Excuse
By Norman Mailer
Tribune Media Services
2-25-3

LOS ANGELES -- There is a subtext to what the Bu****es are doing as they prepare for war in Iraq. My hypothesis is that President George W. Bush and many conservatives have come to the conclusion that the only way they can save America and get if off its present downslope is to become a regime with a greater military presence and drive toward empire. My fear is that Americans might lose their democracy in the process.
 
By downslope I'm referring not only to the corporate scandals, the church scandals and the FBI scandals. The country has gone kind of crazy in the eyes of conservatives. Also, kids can't read anymore. Especially for conservatives, the culture has become too sexual.
 
Iraq is the excuse for moving in an imperial direction. War with Iraq, as they originally conceived it, would be a quick, dramatic step that would enable them to control the Near East as a powerful base - not least because of the oil there, as well as the water supplies from the Tigris and Euphrates rivers - to build a world empire.
 
The Bu****es also expect to bring democracy to the region and believe that in itself will help to diminish terrorism. But I expect the opposite will happen: terrorists are not impressed by democracy. They loathe it. They are fundamentalists of the most basic kind. The more successful democracy is in the Near East - not likely in my view - the more terrorism it will generate.
 
The only outstanding obstacle to the drive toward empire in the Bu****es' minds is China. Indeed, one of the great fears in the Bush administration about America's downslope is that the "stem studies" such as science, technology and engineering are all faring poorly in U.S. universities. The number of American doctorates is going down and down. But the number of Asians obtaining doctorates in those same stem studies are increasing at a great rate.
 
Looking 20 years ahead, the administration perceives that there will come a time when China will have technology superior to America's. When that time comes, America might well say to China that "we can work together," we will be as the Romans to you Greeks. You will be our extraordinary, well-cultivated slaves. But don't try to dominate us. That would be your disaster. This is the scenario that some of the brightest neoconservatives are thinking about. (I use Rome as a metaphor, because metaphors are usually much closer to the truth than facts).
 
What has happened, of course, is that the Bu****es have run into much more opposition than they thought they would from other countries and among the home population. It may well end up that we won't have a war, but a new strategy to contain Iraq and wear Saddam down. If that occurs, Bush is in terrible trouble.
 
My guess though, is that, like it or not, want it or not, America is going to go to war because that is the only solution Bush and his people can see.
 
The dire prospect that opens, therefore, is that America is going to become a mega-banana republic where the army will have more and more importance in Americans' lives. It will be an ever greater and greater overlay on the American system. And before it is all over, democracy, noble and delicate as it is, may give way. My long experience with human nature - I'm 80 years old now - suggests that it is possible that fascism, not democracy, is the natural state.
 
Indeed, democracy is the special condition - a condition we will be called upon to defend in the coming years. That will be enormously difficult because the combination of the corporation, the military and the complete investiture of the flag with mass spectator sports has set up a pre-fascistic atmosphere in America already.
 
Norman Mailer's latest book is "The Spooky Art: Some Thoughts on Writing." This comment was adapted from remarks Feb. 22 to the Los Angeles Institute for the Humanities and distributed by Global Viewpoint/Tribune Media Services International.
Registered: September 07, 2002
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I completely support Bushon everything he's doing for the war. We have to protect our country and Ibelieve he's willing to do that.I trust him 100%. I'm glad he's willing to look anyone who threatens america in any way straight in the eyes and say, "bring it!"
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Anyone who supports the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto is a Communist:



The Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto

(Note: all 10 are alive and well in this country)

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

2. Heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.

7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
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Registered: February 24, 2003
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well that depends on what you recognize communists as
<JoeyDauben>
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So if I am hearing this - er reading - correctly, the people who support the president also support the Big Government, pro-Communist, pro-World Government policies and record he has accomplished so far.

But you say, "Oh, Joey, Bush isn't a Communist. He doesn't support Bigger Government."

Oh, no?

Well ladies and gentlemen, guys and girls, our current president is definitely not the first president to be a supporter of Bigger Government and of the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto.

But I'm going to show these "supporters" what this president is all about:

http://libertyvault.com/gwb.html

Take a look at that little list there.

Do you people support that stuff now?
Picture of Dante
Registered: April 27, 2002
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<JoeyDauben>
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I don't see how this war or any overseas venture involving the Bush Administration (I or II) couldn't be about oil.

I mean, just look at the cabinet positions.

Every single top-level official in Bush II's cabinet are former Bush I administration officials.

And they're ALL former oil executives.

They ALL worked in the energy sector, made millions dealing with oil companies and were known by being OIL men/women (Condi Rice is the former exec. of Chevron).

So how is this war not about oil?

VP Cheney used to head Halliburton, then the world's largest oil/gas firm -- his company was responsible for giving the majority of Central Asian oil contracts (i.e., before we bombed Afghanistan, Cheney and Co. sold rights to the massive oil pipeline energy firms are building in that country).

In my opinion, which makes complete sense, the U.S. oil government needed justification to capture all of the Central Asian and Iraqi oil resources.

Soo, enlist the CIA to help "build" an enemy (Saddam, Osama and the Taliban) and then wait a few years before bombing the crap out of the guys, making the American public THINK we're going over there to "rid the world of evildoers" while (using that as a smokescreen) at the same time obtaining the oil reserves.

Oh, and the Trilateral Commision (Clinton, Bush I, Carter and David Rockefeller are members) even states that their top goal is to maintain high interest in the world's oil market -- the TC is one of those "secret" societies politicians and higher-up bankers/media moguls belong to - like Skull & Bones (Bush family), Council on Foreign Relations (Brokaw, Jennings, Rather) and the Bilderberger Group (Rockefeller, Clinton).


So again I ask: how are these wars NOT about oil?

Not to mention business ventures (war is big business I might add).
Picture of CathayKid
Registered: February 24, 2003
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Believe in peace...
Picture of cosmicdream
Registered: February 08, 2003
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ppl said that he's just going after the oil......but i dunno..who should we believe???
Picture of CathayKid
Registered: February 24, 2003
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I've heard many people saying Bush is doing wrong and he's evil and stuff
I have to agree...he's kind of militant,maybe that's the way he solves problems,but you see problems didn't dissapear
BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOD,why not try to cooperate with the rest of the world instead of pissing people off?

But why,did he become the president?Was there something wrong with the vote?
Registered: February 24, 2003
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BUSH GOT A RAW DEAL FROM THE START. THE ECONOMY WAS GOING DOWN WHEN HE ARRIVED AND THEN 9/11 HIT. I BELIEVE THAT WITH THE HAND THAT HE HAS BEEN DELT, HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB. HE IS OBVIOUSLY PREVENTING TERRORISM IN AMERICAN CAUSE THERE HAVENT BEEN ANY ATTACKS SINCE 9/11. WHY RUIN SOMETHING THAT IS RIGHT?

LIKE THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A CHANCE. I DONT KNOW WHATS WORSE 12 DEMOCRATICS TRYING TO BE PRESIDENT OR ONE.
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