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Registered: April 28, 2003
Posts: 1271
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Should the U.S. boycott French products because they did the democratic thing and respected french public opinion instead of support the War in Iraq?
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Registered: June 28, 2003
Posts: 33
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we shouldn't boycott France because it respected the oppinions of its people and not just the oppinions of a few people.
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Registered: April 23, 2003
Posts: 28
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i think its ridiculous to boycott over france. so what they didnt support us with the war with iraq.... the chinesse didnt support us and we still eat chinesse food. plus, freedom fries? HOW STUPID! frech fries didnt even come from france. it is just stupid all over!
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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quote: They are called such because the way they are cooked
"By the way, the verb "to french" in cooking has come to mean to cut in long, slender strips, and some people insist that "french fries" come from that term. However, the French fried potato was known since the middle 1800s, while the OED cites the first use of the verb "to french" around 1895, so it appears pretty convincing that "french fried potatoes" came before the verb "frenching." The origin of the name is thus the country of origin French and not the cooking term french."
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Registered: June 07, 2002
Posts: 326
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"french fries" to "freedom fries", i can handle.
But i read about another change they are trying to make........
"french kissing" to "freedom kissing"
That's just sick.
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Registered: January 06, 2003
Posts: 1185
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i think its stupid 2 boycott french products because they didnt back us up in the war with iraq. why should they, they dont want 2 get in the middle of this, and now because they didnt were gonna do something as stupid as boycott all french products? i think this is one of the dumbest things ive heard. ByE bYe 
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Registered: April 28, 2003
Posts: 1271
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all I'm saying is that the only one who has the right to punish and critize others is one who isn't guilty of the same kinds of things. The critic and potential punisher being the U.S. You know, practice what you preach.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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quote: but the government still denies that fact to this very day. We lie and get away with it... so why can't they?
just about every leader of every country lies about something, the problem here is I am not french, I am not from France and the lie was against the country I love and would never leave. The lie was with intent to defame and to turn others against us. While people chanted away "NO WAR FOR OIL", France sat back and laughed, for the only one who would gain from oil in Iraq was France, China and Russia(the same exact 3 countries opposed to us going to Iraq). The same three countries wich have manufactured and sold weapons to Iraq, despite their own UN sanctions(signed by all three). A cover up is a cover up and you people need to realize this. I wonder if the WMD's are in France, after all someone did spill some Sarin gas in a French Subway(not exactly something you just walk around with). Yes that is far fetched, but ask yourself honestly, why would someone in France have Sarin gas, why all the cover up? Yes yes the USA is a bunch of baby killers and blah blah blah, but it still doesn't change what is happening right now, today. Maybe you want people to come after us, maybe it is ok for you if the whole world doesn't get the truth, but for me, it doesn't fly. We need to seriously question what role we are to Follow if the head of the UN(France) is lying to everyone. Do I hate France, no, this is about someone who is in control of something called the United Nations, something to represent the entire world, someone who hasn't been very honest. That is what this is about, not about the USA...it's about Cambodia, Canada, Mexico, Italy, Laos and every other country on this planet. That's what it's about. We are simply the henchmen sent in when no one else wants to, we do not claim to represent the entire world as does France. We just simply get BS from everyone including our own citizens for every move we make, even if it isn't our move. Please don't forget for all of these conspiracies, government overthrows and baby beatings, we always had the backing of the UN(meaning the UN majority agreed), so when you point a finger at the USA, point a finger at these countries too... Afghanistan 1946 Albania 1955 Algeria 1962 Andorra 1993 Angola 1976 Antigua and Barbuda 1981 Argentina 1945 Armenia 1992 Australia 1945 Austria 1955 Azerbaijan 1992 Bahamas 1973 Bahrain 1971 Bangladesh 1974 Barbados 1966 Belarus 1945 Belgium 1945 Belize 1981 Benin 1960 Bhutan 1971 Bolivia 1945 Bosnia and Hercegovina 1992 Botswana 1966 Brazil 1945 Brunei 1984 Bulgaria 1955 Burkina Faso 1960 Burundi 1962 Cambodia 1955 Cameroon 1960 Canada 1945 Cape Verde 1975 Central African Republic 1960 Chad 1960 Chile 1945 China 1945 Colombia 1945 Comoros 1975 Congo (Brazzaville) 1960 Congo (Kinshasa) 1960 Costa Rica 1945 Côte d'Ivoire 1960 Croatia 1992 Cuba 1945 Cyprus 1960 Czech Republic 1993 Denmark 1945 Djibouti 1977 Dominica 1978 Dominican Republic 1945 Ecuador 1945 Egypt 1945 El Salvador 1945 Equatorial Guinea 1968 Eritrea 1993 Estonia 1991 Ethiopia 1945 Fiji 1970 Finland 1955 France 1945 Gabon 1960 Gambia 1965 Georgia 1992 Germany 1973 Ghana 1957 Greece 1945 Grenada 1974 Guatemala 1945 Guinea 1958 Guinea-Bissau 1974 Guyana 1966 Haiti 1945 Honduras 1945 Hungary 1955 Iceland 1946 India 1945 Indonesia 1950 Iran 1945 Iraq 1945 Ireland 1955 Israel 1949 Italy 1955 Jamaica 1962 Japan 1956 Jordan 1955 Kazakhstan 1992 Kenya 1963 Kiribati 1999 Korea, North 1991 Korea, South 1991 Kuwait 1963 Kyrgyzstan 1992 Laos 1955 Latvia 1991 Lebanon 1945 Lesotho 1966 Liberia 1945 Libya 1955 Liechtenstein 1990 Lithuania 1991 Luxembourg 1945 Macedonia 1993 Madagascar 1960 Malawi 1964 Malaysia 1957 Maldives 1965 Mali 1960 Malta 1964 Marshall Islands 1991 Mauritania 1961 Mauritius 1968 Mexico 1945 Micronesia 1991 Moldova 1992 Monaco 1993 Mongolia 1961 Morocco 1956 Mozambique 1975 Myanmar 1948 Namibia 1990 Nauru 1999 Nepal 1955 Netherlands 1945 New Zealand 1945 Nicaragua 1945 Niger 1960 Nigeria 1960 Norway 1945 Oman 1971 Pakistan 1947 Palau 1994 Panama 1945 Papua New Guinea 1975 Paraguay 1945 Peru 1945 Philippines 1945 Poland 1945 Portugal 1955 Qatar 1971 Romania 1955 Russia 1945 Rwanda 1962 Saint Kitts and Nevis 1983 Saint Lucia 1979 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1980 San Marino 1992 São Tomé and Principe 1975 Saudi Arabia 1945 Senegal 1960 Seychelles 1976 Sierra Leone 1961 Singapore 1965 Slovakia 1993 Slovenia 1992 Solomon Islands 1978 Somalia 1960 South Africa 1945 Spain 1955 Sri Lanka 1955 Sudan 1956 Suriname 1975 Swaziland 1968 Sweden 1946 Syria 1945 Tajikistan 1992 Tanzania 1961 Thailand 1946 Togo 1960 Tonga 1999 Trinidad and Tobago 1962 Tunisia 1956 Turkey 1945 Turkmenistan 1992 Tuvalu 2000 Uganda 1962 Ukraine 1945 United Arab Emirates 1971 United Kingdom 1945 United States 1945 Uruguay 1945 Uzbekistan 1992 Vanuatu 1981 Venezuela 1945 Vietnam 1977 Western Samoa 1976 Yemen 1947 Yugoslavia 1945 Zambia 1964 Zimbabwe 1980
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Registered: April 28, 2003
Posts: 1271
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"by democratic thing, do you mean they were trying to cover up the fact they have been selling weapons to Iraq."
You know, the U.S. has told it fair share of lies in its time. Did you know that during the 1970's, the U.S. propped up a regime in Argentina that kidnapped infants beat their parents and then sold the infants to wealthy families? It's a well documented fact that the U.S. supported this regime, but the government still denies that fact to this very day. We lie and get away with it... so why can't they?
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: actually, someone who was wise about U.S. history would know that if the french navy hadn't blockaded Yorktown, Gen. Cornwallis would have gotten away to the north and restrengthened his forces and America would still be under British control today! So, really, we wouldn't exist without them.
as I was saying and we got a pretty copper statue too....the past is not right now quote: the UK, the US and the Russians won it TOGETHER
and I give a hell of alot of respect to the USSR who won a great battle, but again....the past and the USSR is now Russia and not the same.
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Registered: May 03, 2003
Posts: 777
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i think you answered your own question icm91
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Registered: January 18, 2003
Posts: 1110
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Just on a side, I thought I would let you all know the reason why they are called "French" Fries. They are called such because the way they are cooked, not because French Fries were first made by the French, but it was the cooking method that was invented by the French. Just some useless information for you guys.
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Registered: November 20, 2002
Posts: 6
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Dear god, i'm sure the French are just sick to their stomachs that we're not calling our fattening, greesy fries 'french'!!!
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Registered: June 07, 2002
Posts: 326
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whether we saved their butts before or they saved ours, WHAT DOES IT MATTER?
You don't base your opinion on the fact that a country did something nice to you. You base your opinion on facts and what is better for YOUR country.And the french think that for their country it is better to not support the war in iraq.
Now whether that decision was made because they are getting money from iraq is besides the point. The U.S. would do the same thing if iraq was giving money to us and france was going to war with them. The u.s has done it before.
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Registered: May 01, 2003
Posts: 9
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i think we should do SOMETHING to send France a strong message that we know that they are doing more than being snotty towards us. With them sending US intelligence to Iraq (not that it helped but still...), and them not joining our alliance against Iraq for personal economic reasons while the whole world is in danger...it all just shows how selfish these people are. I think they owe us just a little bit for what we did for them in WWII. We have over 56000 troops burried at Normandy just to protect thier skinny French butts. I will continue to call French Fries by that name however because Freedom Fries is to corny. PEACE!
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Registered: January 18, 2003
Posts: 1110
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Even though I wouldn't rely on "the patriot" for historical information, ICM is correct to some extent about the importance of the French aiding us in the war. Particulry the French brought their Navy, which we did not have at the time, and also the French enabled us to fight in open field battles,due to training and such,which enabled the us to win the war. Also we didn't save half of Europe by ourselves, the UK, the US and the Russians won it TOGETHER. Also I think you are down playing the importance of the French's role, they helped us gain our independence, and we aided them in getting theirs back. So agian I will say stop using the WW2 argument becuase it is a weak one.
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Registered: April 28, 2003
Posts: 1271
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actually, someone who was wise about U.S. history would know that if the french navy hadn't blockaded Yorktown, Gen. Cornwallis would have gotten away to the north and restrengthened his forces and America would still be under British control today! So, really, we wouldn't exist without them. When we saved their butts, we were just returning the favor and now we're even. We don't owe them anything, and they don't owe us anything. I feel that since I started the topic I really shouldn't say anything, just seems rude, but I couldn't help myself this time. You should watch the End of the movie The Patriot to really understand how important the role of the French was at the Battle of Yorktown. 
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: I'm not to peachy keen with the French but please don’t start with typical WW2 line.
yeah yeah and they gave us a pretty copper statue too, bottom line is they only helped us to defeat the English, we saved half of Europe 
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Registered: January 18, 2003
Posts: 1110
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In response to -------------------------------------------------- the fact that they wouldn't support a fellow member of the UN who saved them from being exterminated by the Nazis. -------------------------------------------------- Oh god not the typical statement, "those damn French, we bailed their ***’s out during ww2." May I remind you who bailed our ***’s out during the revolutionary war. I'm not to peachy keen with the French but please don’t start with typical WW2 line.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: they did the democratic thing
by democratic thing, do you mean they were trying to cover up the fact they have been selling weapons to Iraq despite their own UN sanctions?? I think that is the point of the botcott, the fact they lie, more then the fact that they wouldn't support a fellow member of the UN who saved them from being exterminated by the Nazis.
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