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Picture of EvilSquirrel
Registered: November 09, 2005
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I believe that China is going to be a threat, and I mean a big threat. Already they are increasing thier millitary power and have flown jets to Japan to intimidate them or whatever. I just want to hear your comments on this wheather you agree with me or not, but seriously China is going to be a threat in the future
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quote:
Who is China a threat to?


who was Japan a threat to?


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Registered: December 10, 2003
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At one point in time Risk the UK i.e. Great Brittan was the premier imperial power of the world, so it's not the matter of one nation boasting imperial superiority; but the matter of which nations with imperial pasts still boast to some extent there might that is percieved by other nations as being imperialistic to rest of the world.


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Who is China a threat to?
Is it the democratic freedoms of the world, or just th imperialist assumed superiority of a particular country?



It can go either way...China with all it's military might through it's strong central government has the power to destroy half or even all of the western hemisphere if it wanted. The threat to all democratic governments are at risk with China being a ticking time bomb that could go off at any moment, imperialism or communism it doesn't matter. Nuclear cotastrophy immenent, all the major players in the field of nuclear baseball, U.S.A, Russia, China, N. Korea, all have the capabilities to destroy the world at any moment. But at it's present time China is the main focus of the world in general.


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Registered: April 24, 2005
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the seconed one...


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Registered: November 02, 2005
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Who is China a threat to?
Is it the democratic freedoms of the world, or just th imperialist assumed superiority of a particular country?


Okay, fine!!! Tell me what you think of me.... now ask me if I care...
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Registered: October 19, 2005
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China has a booming economy and happy people, you dont go to war when your successful


Yea, But right before WW2, Japan had a booming economy and happy people. However, that success comes at the price of resources which they ran out of. So what did they do? They invaded China. Whats to stop China from doing the same thing? "History repeats itself"


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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Originally posted by freedomordeath:
I don't know if that would be a credible source any longer, amp. Consider who this is coming from and if it would be respected i.e. his other works, including those on YN.

Haha, don't me just because I can write an editorial people actually want to read and publish...


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Registered: April 24, 2005
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The world goes through cycles, China is rising, a trend which may or may not continue, whether or not they will become the dominant hegemon in the world is still to be seen, but whatever form their rise takes, we will have to see how America responds. Personally I may have grievences with America, but aside from the UK there are not many countries i'd like to have such a big effect as the US. However I do wish, when the time of the American Empire comes, it steps into the shadows peacefully. China is a great country, and until they cause problems, real problems, not ones affecting the US/world economy etc, I am happy to see them rise.

I do agree with Bush that China needs to improve human rights issues and expand freedoms. But I aldo believe they will as they come under more observation and international scrutiny.


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Ha! I think you mean "fear" is what is controlling people. Fear can control just about anyone. THAT is why the United States has any power at all, it strikes fear into smaller, potentially weaker countries.


Fear has the tendency to make people want to sit down and talk things out rather than be decimated. It's not a bad thing in itself. American fear of the Soviets and vis versa kept the cold war cold.

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China has a booming economy and happy people, you dont go to war when your successful.


Economies don't boom forever and the oncoming resource scarcity makes it a good bet that the Chinese peole won't stay happy forever.


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New avatar look...

Ok go about your business


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hmmm aff I'll check his sources


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I don't know if that would be a credible source any longer, amp. Consider who this is coming from and if it would be respected i.e. his other works, including those on YN.


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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Originally posted by ampmaster:
of course but what paper is it from? I need that to cite properly if I submit it to the school paper (as an outsider)

The Eden Prairie High School Eyrie, Eden Prairie, Minnesota. Published November 16, 2005. "The Peace to End All Peace" by Sam Wilson


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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of course but what paper is it from? I need that to cite properly if I submit it to the school paper (as an outsider)


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Originally posted by ampmaster:
I all ways said only a dumb and blind shit would pass NAFTA and CAFTA through congress can I reprint this and post it else where reactionary?

by all means, just please give me credit...


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I all ways said only a dumb and blind shit would pass NAFTA and CAFTA through congress can I reprint this and post it else where reactionary?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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This an article that I wrote for my high school newspaper that was published last Wednesday:

The Peace to end all Peace
by
Sam Wilson

“They are buying the rope that will be used to hang them”. Vladimir Lenin’s words could easily be used to describe our relations with China in 2005. Since President Nixon entered in detente with the People’s Republic, mainly to be used as a wedge against the USSR, we have paid little or no attention to the Beast in the East.
Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton have arranged the transfers of billions of dollars in the form of commercial assistance and loose free trade deals engineered in the World Trade Organization. Our national debt, at the time of this writing, is at $7,993,276,729,344.51, and $1,630,000,000 is added to it everyday. That translates to a $26,875.91 debt hung around the necks of every single citizen in this country. Despite this, our one party system, the Republicrats, have attached the United States to two sinister supranational organizations; the North America Free Trade Agreement and, as of July 28, 2005, the Central America Free Trade Agreement. Instead of making the preparations for building a sustainable war time economy, our “representives” in Washington are sending our jobs overseas and increasing trade with the Chinese War Machine. China controls $200,000,000,000 of our debt and sells 40% of its exports to America.
Where does your money go? Well, ironically, it is ending up in the hands of the Russians. Since 2002, Russia has worked with Red China to build 14 nuclear submarines, and are outright buying them from the Russian Federation. This year, Russian and Chinese diplomats have reached an agreement to trade 8 more Kilo class nuclear submarines (the first has already been delievered to Beijing), armed with nuclear warheads capable of hitting every single city in the US. As for our naval capabilities, since Ronald Reagan left office in January 1989, our government has reduced our Navy’s size down from a fleet of 600 vessels to 288. To put that in prespective, we had that many ships when William Taft was in office. The China Reform Monitor has reported that by 2025, China will have 3 submarines to every one America has.
Russia’s, who’s President is a former member of the Communist Secret Police (KGB), ties with China do not end with simple economic transactions either. On August 18, 2005, the Federation and Red Armies met in Vladivostok, Russia to participate in war games, where, according the BBC, “Marines stormed beaches and paratroopers descended behind enemy lines in a mock invasion of a large country...”
But don’t take my word for it. A World Net Daily report released September 13, 2005 contained quotes from Wei Jingsheing, a pro democracy dissent held as a political prisoner in China for 18 years, saying, ”The Chinese Communist Party is considering nuclear war, because it is not afraid to sacrifice China’s people... they need the distraction of a large war to turn the people’s attention away from the rampant corruption and failed policies at home.”
Of course, we should always save the best for last. If our leaders don’t trust the accounts of the media, foreign relations analysts, and political prisoners, maybe they should listen to the actual words of the Chinese Communist Party. Red Army General Zhu Chenghu stated in a speech to military officers and party members, “we [China] will prepare for the destruction of all cities east of the Xiang.” If China and America were to lose the same amount of people, they’d still have over 700,000,000 citizens. China’s Minister of Defense, General Chi Haotian, stated in a speech given to his chiefs of staff, “The first issue is gaining more living space for our expanding population.” That is, by no coincidence, the same rational Hitler gave for invading Poland in 1939. ”It is historical destiny that China and the United States will come into unaviodable confrontation on a narrow path and fight each other!” A Chinese Government run website, http://www.sina.com, conducted a survey amongst the Chinese people and the results were chilling. Well over half of the population answered ‘Yes’ to whether or not they would “shoot and kill women, children, and prisoners of war.”
While we swat flies in the Middle East, our “trading partner” is quieting using our currency to arm herself to the teeth. Next time you’re about to buy a product marked “Made in China”, remember your money, cause it just might come back at you, a lot harder.
Bibliography: http://www.halturnershow.com/ChineseDefenseMinisterTalksWarAgainstUS.html ,
http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=219 , http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4161660.stm


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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oh yeah that would make sense but I was thinking from china to combat and but what you meant was really from the troop bases to the rear like what we use civilian aircraft for though in this case the rear is mainland china near taiwan. So yes for getting guys from Alpha to Charlie so they can move by landing craft or whatever to get to Bravo makes good sense and at the same time china can expand it's national flag carrier's fleet of aircraft.


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Registered: August 14, 2004
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Oh I'm not talking about to the battle field, I'm talking like from west to east china.


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