hmmmmmmmm. lets see....how long have we been in the middle east fighting and trying to stop terrorism? years!
i mean we are helping the people over there establish a government, we are killing thier own people and fight thier the bad guys. has the president not had a wake up call and thought maybe he could have stoped 9/11 by helping his own country!!??
if president bush is so intent on helping the middle east...make it part of the U.S.
it could be a giant army bass. there are how many troops over there?

help me out i am confused

QUOTE] who the hell wants Iraq besides the Iraqis? [/QUOTE]

no one really, except those that want oil (which is not us). We believe in capatilism which with trade with Iraq will make them richer, us richer, everyone is happy. So please people don't talk about that we're in their for oil.

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We can't annex Iraq for one reason:

Popular Support. Iraqis simply will not support annexation. They will support their own government.
They have the resources to provide a basis for their economy, i.e. oil. Naturally, reguardless of the outcome, there will be a pro-American government, NEVER ANOTHER FRANCE!!(Sorry, AP Gov there)

I wouldn't claim America as a Conqueror, there are no intentions of holding Iraq. This is subduction, there is every intention of subduing Iraq.

Rather than controlling them, the idea is to impress the dominance subtly.

True but there is a better reason...who the hell wants Iraq besides the Iraqis?

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I'm sorry, but not every president can look good under circumstances. Like say Clinton; who never had a war on his hands, a terrorist attack (which killed over 3,000 of our citizens), a tsunami that devastated a city, etc. Clinton's most famous military thing was Somalia and that was a botch with 21 (correct me on this if i'm wrong) dead soldiers because he didn't let them use the equipment they needed. So which president is an ass?

and 5000 (give or take about 300) dead civlians and let's not even talk about Kosovo, Bosnia, Haiti and all the other moronic wars that slick willy (bill clinton) got us in to I agree that Bush can be a moron, but in levels of stupidty clinton is to bush like a nuke to a handgrenade

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i dnt even need to do tht he's done a pretty good job of lookin like an ass on his own

I'm sorry, but not every president can look good under circumstances. Like say Clinton; who never had a war on his hands, a terrorist attack (which killed over 3,000 of our citizens), a tsunami that devastated a city, etc. Clinton's most famous military thing was Somalia and that was a botch with 21 (correct me on this if i'm wrong) dead soldiers because he didn't let them use the equipment they needed. So which president is an ass?

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Originally posted by marine13:
because your not just making your President look like a jackass(which is prob. the goal) but your also making your fellow brothers and sisters of our fighting forces look like jackasses also.

i dnt even need to do tht he's done a pretty good job of lookin like an ass on his own...wht u said is really lame u no...no one has ever thought tht whts happenin in iraq made everythin worse...if thy just leave mayb all the stuff u said like suicide bombers nd al tht would stop...americans took their home away mayb thts why thy are all pissed nd killin everyone

We can't annex Iraq for one reason:

Popular Support. Iraqis simply will not support annexation. They will support their own government.
They have the resources to provide a basis for their economy, i.e. oil. Naturally, reguardless of the outcome, there will be a pro-American government, NEVER ANOTHER FRANCE!!(Sorry, AP Gov there)

I wouldn't claim America as a Conqueror, there are no intentions of holding Iraq. This is subduction, there is every intention of subduing Iraq.

Rather than controlling them, the idea is to impress the dominance subtly.

If you really think about it, we can't. Why? For 2 reasons.
1. We'd have to pay them for it, and since they have oil the price would be $$$$$X100
2. If we go in and take it by force is that not communism, that we fight to destroy.

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when u all start talkin bout terorist nd all u the first thing that pops into ur minds should not be "he/she is an arab" or "muslim" that is so not true...u no ppl are gettin kiiled in palestine n din iraq...wht do u cal tht...plz dnt tel me tht americans are helpin iraq this way...thy are makin it worse every day...thy r just there for the oil i just wish thy would admit it instead of cuverin it with a lame ass excuse bout tryin to help

A lame ass excuse would not have lasted this long...we have been in Iraq for years now...to say that the Bush Administration is just staying there to save there own asses is a ridiculous assumption, that almost makes me laugh. Think about your words this way, by making this accusation, you are basically saying that our men and woman in uniform are essentially doing nothing. Are they in on the cover up too? Does Bush say::"Die for us, make sure some arms and legs are blown off, and go over there and pretend like your doing something boys!":: No, I do not think so. Yes, people are Iraqies are still dying, unfortuanitly, but not from US troops, but from there own people. From suicide bombers, car bombs, ect. We have made an incredible amount of progress in Iraq...there is not even a possible way that we could leave completely now. That would be ruining everything we have done for the citizens and country as a whole. And the people who deserve the life like you have, we would be abaindoning. Your accusation and excuse is long over used, and when you say things like that, why not think first, because your not just making your President look like a jackass(which is prob. the goal) but your also making your fellow brothers and sisters of our fighting forces look like jackasses also.

when u all start talkin bout terorist nd all u the first thing that pops into ur minds should not be "he/she is an arab" or "muslim" that is so not true...u no ppl are gettin kiiled in palestine n din iraq...wht do u cal tht...plz dnt tel me tht americans are helpin iraq this way...thy are makin it worse every day...thy r just there for the oil i just wish thy would admit it instead of cuverin it with a lame ass excuse bout tryin to help

~sarsoOr~

No, definitely not, that's just the first thing that popped into my mind.

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...Make the middle east an American army base?? WOAH. That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. You do know that the middle east is huge right? Because I met someone the other day who thought it was one country and I almost killed myself.

i hope the fact that the middle east is huge is not your only objection to this ridiculous proposal?

...Make the middle east an American army base?? WOAH. That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. You do know that the middle east is huge right? Because I met someone the other day who thought it was one country and I almost killed myself.

is anyoone here

whazzzz up people how r u

I didn't catch his name and even if I did I probably wouldn't have remembered considering all the names i hear seeing as I listen to the radio quite a bit.

Name please?

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we are helping these people and then returning to our homes.

I heard on NPR the other day a politician saying he didnt expect for Iraq to ever be completely independant. It sounded liek conquering to me.

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Originally posted by ampmaster:
cause we are not conquerers

right. we are occupiers. you can't make money off them if they are alldead.

END THE OCCUPATION!

mmm that sounds good doc... I like the sound of that

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make it part of the U.S.
it could be a giant army bass.

Yeah! Cut off some massive filets, put some lemon pepper and a little salt on that, grill it over the world's largest charcoal pit and BANG! You solve world hunger. And I bet it will be tasty too.