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Originally posted by Maya:
What are the causes for terrorism according to you guys?And if you're thinking of giving a bullsh*t answer like "people are evil" or some dumb ass response like that please abstain from doing so

Hmm let me see... People are evil - I had to say it.

No what I mean is that people will always want power and one way to have power is to terrorise the opposition so they'll listen to you. If you're a big huge country with the sumbmarines that have the average nations intire fire power under you control, its easy to bully yourself around to get what you want without anybody saying much about it - because they're terrified (hense terrorism) to do or say anything about it for fear of retaliation, either economocily (sp) or military.
Now for lets say suicide bombers - they have no hope of getting what they want without putting fear into people or governments to prove their point. - It's just they're smaller less of a threat than a nation who could basically destroy you with one word. So people fight against them because they are an easy problem to get rid of.

Are either of these tatics right? No - but they use the same principal to cause fear and terror to get what they want.

Eh. I hope that made sense.

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but then again, we cant get rid of crime either now can we??????? But we do a pretty good job at controlling it wouldnt you say?????

I have to agree with you, the states does do a good job controling terrorism and abusing power. If Shock and Awe... wasn't terrorism... what was it?

What are the causes for terrorism according to you guys?And if you're thinking of giving a bullsh*t answer like "people are evil" or some dumb ass response like that please abstain from doing so

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so, the truth comes out, your a babbling moron with strong ties to terrorism, I should have known, all the signs were there.

xray quick call the CIA!!!
I'm a crazy dangerous radical!!!

gotta love these kids

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in England we know that all to well, for the people who stepped onto subway trains and buses on the 7th of july to wreak havoc on the streets of london were plain, ordinary civilians from my home town, that's what made them so dangerous, corrupted by extremists and now condemned by muslim society.

you are absolutely right, in Madrid the exact same thing happened on March 11th 2004, terrorist, most of wich where spanish residents that had immigrated from arab nations years ago, blew up 7 bombs on trains, killing 198 people, and wounding 1800. After that, when they where cornered in an apartment they inmolated themselves, also killing a special-ops police officer in teh process.
After the attack, the spanish muslim community immediately condemned the bombing, and most of their most prominent leaders made public appearances giving their condolences and support to the spanish people.

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from what freedom? theres some bumps in your story now. I cant believe that crap, go to CNN and talk with them about your new theories a little longer, then go interview a couple of terrorists and play them off as civilians, so that way you have some sources to sight.

because CNN is a great non-biased news centre? and by the way terrorists are civilians, in England we know that all to well, for the people who stepped onto subway trains and buses on the 7th of july to wreak havoc on the streets of london were plain, ordinary civilians from my home town, that's what made them so dangerous, corrupted by extremists and now condemned by muslim society.

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but then again, we cant get rid of crime either now can we??????? But we do a pretty good job at controlling it wouldnt you say?????

No, I wouldn't say that, actually. Controlling crime would mean that there would be none of these statistics. Crime may not be rampant, if that's what you mean, but neither is terrorism.

Goodness, a quadruple(sp?) post.

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so, the truth comes out, your a babbling moron with strong ties to terrorism, I should have known, all the signs were there.

I am laughing at you. HA HA HA. Writing is such an inneffiecent carrier of derision.

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...they wish to protect their homeland,

from what freedom? theres some bumps in your story now. I cant believe that crap, go to CNN and talk with them about your new theories a little longer, then go interview a couple of terrorists and play them off as civilians, so that way you have some sources to sight.

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it's the best possible move to save lives

temporarily, until the terrorists colapese the Iraqi goverment and make it a lawless wild east

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The Truth is, we'll never get rid of Terrorism. There will always be evil people, always people who will take advatage of others, always people who want power, always people who will hold grudges, always be people who will do unthinkable things to prove their points. We can't get rid of it.

but then again, we cant get rid of crime either now can we??????? But we do a pretty good job at controlling it wouldnt you say?????

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To tell the truth, I would be more than delighted to carry out some form of terrorism, not violent terrorim, but destruction and attack on government property is not hurtfull to anyone, and proves a point.

so, the truth comes out, your a babbling moron with strong ties to terrorism, I should have known, all the signs were there.

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If you weren't riddled with bullet holes in the first place, you'd still be branded a traitor.
attacking an ally of Britain is still being a traitor to the cause of your country.

in law perhaps, but not in my own moral fabric.

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but destruction and attack on government property is not hurtfull to anyone

except goverment employees and the people who paid for the govt property in the first place (us tax payers btw)

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sounds a bit extreme, but then if i was put in a position in iraq where i had to choose to fight in a battle between the resistence and the americans, i would sooner shoot an american soldier (note not a british soldier because im not a traitor).

If you weren't riddled with bullet holes in the first place, you'd still be branded a traitor.
attacking an ally of Britain is still being a traitor to the cause of your country.

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I hate some people to the death, I would be more than willing to carry out sabotage and treason against our government,

glad of free speach no? its what this government lets you do.

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but destruction and attack on government property is not hurtfull to anyone

and sometimes, just saying it can get a person thrown in jail...just looking out for you. and doing it gets your butt in prison.

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I would be more than willing to carry out sabotage and treason against our government, does that make me a terrorist? Maybe. Dunno.

sounds a bit extreme, but then if i was put in a position in iraq where i had to choose to fight in a battle between the resistence and the americans, i would sooner shoot an american soldier (note not a british soldier because im not a traitor).

Triss you're talking about our government there right?
you took the words right out of my mouth

We are the ones causing it, it won't dissapear if we don't stop doing so. And you can't fight it, for all you know I could be a terrorist, I've been called a radical, I hate some people to the death, I would be more than willing to carry out sabotage and treason against our government, does that make me a terrorist? Maybe. Dunno.

To tell the truth, I would be more than delighted to carry out some form of terrorism, not violent terrorim, but destruction and attack on government property is not hurtfull to anyone, and proves a point.

The Truth is, we'll never get rid of Terrorism. There will always be evil people, always people who will take advatage of others, always people who want power, always people who will hold grudges, always be people who will do unthinkable things to prove their points. We can't get rid of it.

Not to mention the US loss in vietnam to a bunch of guys in black pjs and ak-47s that were rustier than brass at the bottom of the pacific

Risk brings up a good point. The Soviet Red Army--the army that made even America think twice about escalating conflicts during the Cold War--was beaten by a bunch of Afghans in rags using old rifles and Stinger missiles. Osama bin Laden and his rag-tag group of mujahadeen were able to drive the Soviets out Afghanistan. The Iraqi insurgents could very well do the same thing to the United States. Pulling out of a rapidly deteriorating situation isn't admitting defeat; it's the best possible move to save lives. When soldiers are dying with little to show for it, you know you need to change direction, quickly.

how on earth did he link ganster rap and terrorism? perhaps ganster rap is terrorism of the ears.

and mouskes? seriously? that doesn't even sound like the word i think it is meant to be.

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If we can beat the enemy into submission we can keep it to isolated criminal incidents instead of Gihad and a pledge for "Islam" to rule the world.

actually beating the enemy into submission is something which never works when it comes to terrorists, you can ask the Russians that, all they need to do is realise their tactics don't work, and at the moment the iraqi insurgency is doing a great job, and islam is not a motivator...they wish to protect their homeland, their families, many are probably avenging their dead relatives and friends, this is crossed with the sectarian militiamen who are taking advantage of the chaos to try gain some control, sunnis and shiite lived in relative peace and co-existence before the fall of saddam.

the war is hurting iraq beyond repair, most intellectuals are leaving the nation, especially doctors, due to the dangerous nature of affairs, and the constant kidnappings. It is damaging key skills iraq needs to re-build itself, all because of the botched job the allies have made following the war itself, which at the time i was somewhat behind.