YN Home  
Home Causes Boards Debate Tools Join YN!
Search YN:
 
YouthNoise Home Page    Topics    Youth Speak Out | Chat | Activism  Hop To Forum Categories  THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY  Hop To Forums  War and Terrorism    should only men be U.S. soldiers?
Page 1 2 3 4 ... 21
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
  Login/Join 
Picture of plic
Registered: July 11, 2004
Posts: 10
Posted   Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
NO NO NO

in the 1920's, women won equal rights. they wanted the same freedoms as men. they got them. they should also serve there country just the same as men. some women want to serve in the military, but when a draft comes, some dont want to participate. i feel that women like that shouldnt have the same liberties as men. they wait around for someone else to hand freedom to them. when a draft comes, women should be drafted as equally as men.
Picture of de0omnibus0dubitandum
Registered: May 29, 2008
Posts: 17
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
i don't think men (or boys) should be allowed to discriminate against women being in the army until they've either
a) been through half the stuff women have to go through or
b) have actually been in combat and realized that the violence affects everybody the same.
&& this is one of the dumbest things i've ever read in my life.
"Join the army... see the world, do lots of physical labor, and maybe if youre lucky die."
yes. every single child that has lost a parent, every parent that has lost a child and every family that has to suffer through every day without their loved one definitely would agree with your statement, ironman07 . . .
Picture of Bushsupporter
Registered: September 19, 2001
Posts: 2202
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by FreeMarketLover:
quote:
I believe men should only be allowed in combat situations.


Is an 18 year old truly a man.

quote:
The Israelis tried it and it worked out terribly.

How did it work out more terribly than any other person going to the slaughter of war?
Once you stop the dramatics I will explain to you.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
Picture of FreeMarketLover
Registered: June 06, 2004
Posts: 3373
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
I believe men should only be allowed in combat situations.


Is an 18 year old truly a man.

quote:
The Israelis tried it and it worked out terribly.


How did it work out more terribly than any other person going to the slaughter of war?


Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV -Youthnoise's First Coalition.
Picture of Bushsupporter
Registered: September 19, 2001
Posts: 2202
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
I believe men should only be allowed in combat situations. I don't have many good arguments to support my belief but something makes me feel uncomfortable sending women into combat.

The Israelis tried it and it worked out terribly.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
Picture of Ikki14Reed
Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5811
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
a mother musnt be in war


But a father can be?


Picture of elahe
Registered: April 11, 2008
Posts: 1
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
i think so, because its more strong and dangurase for women and they have other important duties like being mother, a mother musnt be in war
Picture of Hydrok
Registered: August 14, 2004
Posts: 3132
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by ironman07:
i agree if they want all the rights they should recieve all the duties and responsiblilites male citizens have.


Qualify that, against all the things that I have posted, your reply was over simplistic, and you just spouted off exactly what you were thinking, with out thinking why.


"So others may die" - USAF Intel Targeteer Motto (607th AIS)
Picture of ironman07
Registered: May 06, 2005
Posts: 116
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
i agree if they want all the rights they should recieve all the duties and responsiblilites male citizens have.


Join the army... see the world, do lots of physical labor, and maybe if youre lucky die.
Picture of yogore
Registered: February 02, 2004
Posts: 9212
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
u will find ple women do however apply their smarts more, especially in a school setting.

Exactly. Women typically work harder for grades in school which is why they do better. There is no difference in innate ability.

From my experiance at John Hopkin Univerity's Center for talented You summer program, there were just as many males as females but more males took the science and math classes while girls took the literary courses.


"You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore
Picture of Meagan87
Registered: May 07, 2003
Posts: 7555
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Hmm your entire post just contradicted your thesis.

And uh provide a soource on the info that a woman is smarter than a man.


Wow, you think you would have picked up on something by now...

Usually when someone has no idea how to respond, they start by either attacking the grammer/writing skills and/or ask for "proof". You killed two birds with the same post, congratulations!

All you have to do is type in "gender smarter" into the search engine of your choice (I did aol search out of convienience). You will find plenty that explains how men are by no means smarter than women. Then if you care to notice any local high school, you may notice that more girls are the ones with the higher gpa's. So maybe what I said before needs to be corrected because I enjoy actually admitting when something I did can stand to be corrected...Guys and Gals are roughly equal in smarts, with different concentrations in different areas; women do however apply their smarts more, especially in a school setting.

As far as the usage of the brain...i think i read somewhere that women on average use 14% of the brain at a time and men use 12 %. I am not really using that as an arguement tho because I don't feel like being meticulous about my grammar or looking it up to "prove" it to anyone.

As far as contradicting my thesis...may I just say that I did not even have a thesis...I know...I need to be put into exile for that...


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
Picture of yogore
Registered: February 02, 2004
Posts: 9212
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
However, isn't is proven that men have higher stamina levels and can feel less pain? I think it is something to do with the hormones.

All of this has to do with perception and stereotypes.

Women are normally pushed into writing and creative careers while men often are pushed into math and science. It doesn't mean either is innately different, only moved in certain directions. Also there are more exceptions to the rule than people notice.


"You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore
Picture of panterayall
Registered: March 03, 2005
Posts: 527
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
i read domething about womens brains develop faster from birth so they are smarter then men, but only for a little while. the male brain takes longer to fully develop. and i read something about women use their creative side of their brain more then their intellectual(i dont know what the word is but it means math and science). like that professor who said that men were better then women at math and science and got the **** yelled out of him i think thats the study he was refering too.


peace and equality
Picture of Brehon
Registered: January 22, 2005
Posts: 716
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Blue is right. Women tend to use their language centres and have far more connections between the brain hemispheres than men.

However, isn't is proven that men have higher stamina levels and can feel less pain? I think it is something to do with the hormones.


Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
Picture of bluedemocrat
Registered: December 14, 2004
Posts: 5770
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Men don't use as much of their brains as women.



I don't believe that either. I do think that most men use different parts of their brains more often than women and vice-versa. However, there are extreme exceptions.


They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
Picture of yogore
Registered: February 02, 2004
Posts: 9212
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Men don't use as much of their brains as women.

I don't believe that.


"You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore
Picture of Hydrok
Registered: August 14, 2004
Posts: 3132
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by QueenOfHell:
I can find the title if you want


Yeah go ahead and do that, but also make sure you keep it in context.


"So others may die" - USAF Intel Targeteer Motto (607th AIS)
Picture of QueenOfHell
Registered: April 23, 2005
Posts: 457
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
I can find the title if you want


Don't see Star Wars, it sucks the intelligence out of you
Picture of QueenOfHell
Registered: April 23, 2005
Posts: 457
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
And uh provide a soource on the info that a woman is smarter than a man.


It's said in some book my friend has. Men don't use as much of their brains as women.


Don't see Star Wars, it sucks the intelligence out of you
Picture of Hydrok
Registered: August 14, 2004
Posts: 3132
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
quote:
Originally posted by Meagan87:
As you may have noticed, I've been ignoring YN for awhile for 2 reasons, 1) I was sick of the idiots on the site and 2) I have WAY too much other stuff I really ought to be doing (like my semester research paper due tomorrow or studying for the AP Calc test- Tues.). Anyway, enough about me, this just bugged me too much...

quote:
Note: when Hydrok says that women are not Pysically, Mentally and Emotionally equal he talking a about basic natural diffrences naturally women are more emotional then men for example I know plenty of guys who get hurt and don't cry women brake a nail and cry (generalization but it's true!). Naturally men are more muscular a.k.a stronger then women now on the mentally I'm tied up because both sexes have done great things for mankind men just happen to have done more of them from fire on up. Just pointing all that out


Let's see, where should I start? Let's start with the part about emotional differences. I honestly believe that there ARE no emotional differences between men and women. It's just that from birth, we have been socialized to beleive that it it acceptable for women to cry and men to not. As for the whole "brake"ing a nail thing, that is more of a "I'm such a priss that the slightest flaw in my physical appearance will kill me" cry than a "Ow!" cry. (Also, there are few ladies who actually do this so PLEASE don't use embarassing generalizations like that).

Men are stronger because from the beginning they were expected to do the physical labor because women were involved in child labor... Now you can't tell me that women could begin to develop more strength in today's world where a woman can schedule the date she will have her child, have a cessarian section, go home the same day or one day later, feed it baby formula and hire a nanny.

As for the mental aspect, women have been proven to be smarter. Once it became more acceptable for women to be involved in intellectual jobs, they have excelled at it. Now, you look around and notice almost equality in the areas of medicine and law. Business is still very male dominated for various reasons that I would love to go in more detail about but won't at this time.

Now if you happen to have a problem with something I said, let me know, I'll try to get back to you...

Now back to my paper...


Hmm your entire post just contradicted your thesis.

And uh provide a soource on the info that a woman is smarter than a man.


"So others may die" - USAF Intel Targeteer Motto (607th AIS)
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community Page 1 2 3 4 ... 21 
 

YouthNoise Home Page    Topics    Youth Speak Out | Chat | Activism  Hop To Forum Categories  THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY  Hop To Forums  War and Terrorism    should only men be U.S. soldiers?