Women can do what they want to do with there body. It's their choise what to do with the baby and it's invading privacy when the president is telling what they should do with their bodies! he needs to mind his own buisness

I'm just disgusted with the fact that their are people who attempt to protect something that doesn't feel (feti) and then they go home and eat their meat or beat their dog. Filthy humans.

Hey Yellow, I totally agree. Let's go one step further. Bacteria, parasites, and viruses are alive too!
Down with the evil Antibacterial soap producers! MURDER! MURDER!!!

Come on, when will we stop beating this dead horse? The pivotal part of this argument is "When is the child considered alive, human?" Let's argue about that for a bit.

btw- No woman should be forced to carry and raise the child of a rapist, or the child of incest. And no woman should have to put her own life in danger for a child she doesn't want.

That comes back to the question above, "At what point does the fetus stop being a ball of cells and become a human being?"

I agree, abortion is up to the person. Lives are lost every second, and you will not be a human forever. you will die some day, why not sooner. Maybe the mother can't support the baby, maybe she was raped and does not want to see the eyes of the rapist in her child.

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Originally posted by yellow92:
first of all that "mother" is now responsile for another human being. whats the definition of a cell? the smallest unit of life..... so if a bunch of cells are in that "mothers" body than it is LIFE! how can you not understand that

This is america yeah it is, but should we let all of things immoral things corrupt the greatest country on the face of this planet?

ok i get where you're coming from
but really
Im not saying abortion is right
but it should be A right
it should be an option
without the government completely forbidding it.
the cell is still a part of someone else's body
and that someone should have complete control over it.
whether it be "right" or "Wrong"

first of all that "mother" is now responsile for another human being. whats the definition of a cell? the smallest unit of life..... so if a bunch of cells are in that "mothers" body than it is LIFE! how can you not understand that

This is america yeah it is, but should we let all of things immoral things corrupt the greatest country on the face of this planet?

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Originally posted by yellow92:
look at this what are the reasons women get abortions? huh beacause I got rape, because my life is in danger and so on. so your going to end a babys life that hasnt even got the chance to breath the air or see your face and laugh and play? The reasons women get abortions is selfish. would you give up your life or your younger siblings, life is precious. the constitution says you have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and these babies wont have that because their "mothers" had sex without protection and this country is supporting that as long as we have abortions legal that just makes people more and more irresponsible. Oh i'm pregnant but i dont care ill get an abortion. think about it

Ok
But this is AMERICA
who the hell are YOU
to tell someone what they can do with their own bodies
it's not for YOU to decide whats right
its the Mother
A fetus is still completely Dependant on it's mother

look at this what are the reasons women get abortions? huh beacause I got rape, because my life is in danger and so on. so your going to end a babys life that hasnt even got the chance to breath the air or see your face and laugh and play? The reasons women get abortions is selfish. would you give up your life or your younger siblings, life is precious. the constitution says you have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and these babies wont have that because their "mothers" had sex without protection and this country is supporting that as long as we have abortions legal that just makes people more and more irresponsible. Oh i'm pregnant but i dont care ill get an abortion. think about it

I think a woman's choice to abort shouldn't be illegal. In many responses, I have read reasons like rape, and I agree it is amongst the top reasons why abortion should be legal.

I think another main reason is that not everyone can afford to have a child. I think its better to abort than to have a baby adopted or put in a foster home where they might not even be able to be successful in life. I think that kid would have a hard time growing up because not every baby is lucky to be adopted.

Furthermore, what constitutes abortion as murder? There are many pros and cons, but I think what comes out of you should be your decision.

Abortion isn't the easiest choice for many women, especially if you're a teen or a victim of rape. It is much easier to say that abortion is wrong, than it is to be the one making the choice.

You can bag of teens for getting pregnant by saying that the baby is their consequence, but you must consider how that baby will grow up. You must also consider how the teen will take care of the baby, and you must also take in the fact that abortion is a punishment to the body. Abortion is not something simple, its actually quite damaging to the human body.

Thus, I vote pro-choice.

So like with everything there is and upside and downside to abortion
I am pro choice because what a girl does with her body is her business
and if in cases of rape then i think it's ok
also if the mother is extremely poor and can barley support herself
or is very young with no one to care for the child.
adoption is probably a better choice but pregnancy can be impossible to go through.
But if they just want to abort to have sex without consequence
then thats just horrible

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Originally posted by skate101:
Women can do what they want to do with there body. It's their choise what to do with the baby and it's invading privacy when the president is telling what they should do with their bodies! he needs to mind his own buisness

Sure women can do what they want but it ain't the baby's fault you got pregnant I am just glad your momma didn't do that to you just think instead of yoo in trash can outside the clinic or now you have a life now think of that life you threw away what could they have been oh ya and it is murder y bc its a growing thing when you kill it you kill it murder we care more about animal rights than a unborn babys rights

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why is this topic in the "War and Terrorism" section?

It's murder, yes, but the child is also a part, and wholly dependent of, a woman's body, therefore hers. I don't care about america, or laws, or what the government thinks. I'm talking about morals. Morals, by the way, are very personal things to have, and cannot be determined by your country or government; they're yours to decide on.

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Even though that may be true (as in, my opinion, it is) does it justify at all imposing your beliefs on an individual, forcing them to comply to your personal morals?

I can see an a fairly valid argument for the fact that it does, actually. If the fetus is in fact human, then an abortion would be murder. We, as a country, "impose" our belief that murder is wrong on people all the time, heck we still put people to death over it.

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
well just for a laugh really, but the objection to abortion usually comes from those more religious. It doesn't mean those of us without religon have no morals, infact there is no connection between morality and religion.

But i would like to raise the question of the pregnancy of 'the virgin' Mary, either she was an adulterer or the theory of her carrying gods child is true, in which case wasn't she unwillingly impregenated? if someone is unwillingly impregenated doesn't that mean they were raped? a bastard child is a sin and therefore must be jutifably aborted, if only mary had considered this we could have saved a lot of bloodshed over the argument of the life of jesus, the bastard from jerusalem.

if the "theory" of carriing God's child isnt correct you cant just say that she was an adulterer

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The unborn child is still a human being,
just because it isn't capable yet of defending itself doesn't justify "live" beings to kill and tear it apart.

Even though that may be true (as in, my opinion, it is) does it justify at all imposing your beliefs on an individual, forcing them to comply to your personal morals?

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
well just for a laugh really, but the objection to abortion usually comes from those more religious. It doesn't mean those of us without religon have no morals, infact there is no connection between morality and religion.

But i would like to raise the question of the pregnancy of 'the virgin' Mary, either she was an adulterer or the theory of her carrying gods child is true, in which case wasn't she unwillingly impregenated? if someone is unwillingly impregenated doesn't that mean they were raped? a bastard child is a sin and therefore must be jutifably aborted, if only mary had considered this we could have saved a lot of bloodshed over the argument of the life of jesus, the bastard from jerusalem.

she wasn't unwillingly impregnated,
when she had gotten news by the archangel Gabriel that she would bear a son by the holy spirit she had said let this be done to me.
And god are you ignorant, a child without a father shouldn't be killed.
Everyone has the right to live, just because he is without father gives you a reason to kill him?

"the bastard from jerusalem"...
Im a firm believer in God,Jesus and Mary
so please dont bring all this bullshit.

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The unborn child is still a human being,
just because it isn't capable yet of defending itself doesn't justify "live" beings to kill and tear it apart.
and thank you Dramaqueen20494 for the link.

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i am no expert

That much, my dear, is obvious. First of all, what do you define as "a few weeks"? Because at 6 weeks, the fetus looks like this, and technically isn't even a fetus yet (that stage begins at 9 weeks).