Question:
Personally I support prez. Bush and the war but I wanna know what the majority of the people thinks.

Choices:
Yes, I support both
I support Bush but not war
I support War but not bush
I don't support either
I could care less

 

The president cannot start official wars but he can send in troops. He doesn't always need congressionary approval to invade. Bush sent in soldiers to Iraq before congress decided about war.

Vietnam was never a real war. It was a conflict. Congress didn't approve it.

You guys need to brush up on your civics! ^.^

I believe that Bush is a mere puppet with Cheney pulling the strings. I think Bush is stupid, but I don't hate him. I do despise Dick Cheney though. The arrogant, fat, heart-failing bastard.

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who supports bush?

idiots

Yes, Congress agreed to this war. They're as much to blame for it as the executive branch.

However, Iraq was never a threat to us. The only rights being trampled were those of a good number of Iraqi citizens. Not American citizens.

If you want to justify the war based on the fact that Iraqis were being oppressed, that's fine. But don't justify it by saying it's protecting Americans. It's not.

People need to understand that President Bush isnt the only one in "Power" he can send americans to war unless he has approval from the congress and other high officals

Protecting you from what exactly?

What "rights" are they fighting for?
The right to oil, the right to dominate the middle east or at least prevent the rise of power in the region?

Clarify please.

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Originally posted by sammysmittey:
my dad was in the war for a while and i hate bush because he started the war and wont end it. so i'm sorry for any bush luvers but i hate him.

First off "Bush" did not start this war. Congress had to approve it and you know what they can stop it but they don't so republicans are not the bad guys here. Second come on people! This war is protecting us!!! Why can't you guys see that they are fighting for YOUR rights?!?! Honestly people

In response to DropDeadGabby:

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and if loved ones died in the war.
they died with honor!
honor to their country.

'My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.'

Taken from a poem describing the old lie that it is sweet and right to die for your country. It was written as an attack on those who were part of the propaganda methods for WW1. If you are content to allow yourself to be part of Bush's propaganda methods in this war then my personal opinion is that you shouldn't then make such comments as this:

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I'm ashamed to call you a fellow American.

Innocent people died in 9/11 and innocent civilians are dying in Iraq. No matter how far I look I cannot find an excuse to justify the deaths of these people and I certainly don't find it honourable.

my dad was in the war for a while and i hate bush because he started the war and wont end it. so i'm sorry for any bush luvers but i hate him.

I read over my previous post and i admit i over reacted. I apologize for it. But understand when it comes down to it, their's nothing honorable about dieing at the hands of a terrorist.

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I checked your profile and you live all the way in California. You weren't even close.

I would like to point out that just because someone's profile says they're from California does not mean that 9/11 didn't affect them in a very deep, personal way. Calm the heck down with the personal attacks, ok? I agree with you on most of your points but just, chill a little.

To DropDeadGabby,
Do you honestly believe in what you say? That its alright for people, innocent people, to just die?

Let me place you under the microscope for a second. How close have you been to any war? How close have you been to a terrorist attack? Dont use 9/11 as an excuse. I checked your profile and you live all the way in California. You weren't even close.

I bet you were sitting in your air conditioned room, on you comfy chair, drinking a cold pepsi, posting that message, acitng like a war hero.

Here's another question. How many loved one's did you loose? I have lost many relatives to war. It has been over 15 years and some of them arent even determined dead or in war prisons.
How many Iraqi's do you know? All of my friends from Iraq left their homes as refugees, trying to escape from the war. I have a friend from Iraq who's Uncle was kidnapped. Even though her family paid the randsom the kidnappers demanded, he was found days later dead in the streets.

Don't tell me Bush has made Iraq safer, dont give me your pathetic analysis from hundreds of miles away from a conflict. A conflict you will never understand. I'm sorry, i cant restrain myself. I have to be harsh in my reply or else you will never understand the pain in my heart i get from reading your cold ignorant message.

I was in the Saudi Arabia during the terrorist attacks. I lived for years afraid that my house will be bombed in the middle of the night. I lived in lebanon during the Israel war of 2006. Do you know what it feels like to jump in your seat everytime your hear a door slam. Or to run to the window to make sure that the fireworks you here are indeed fireworks and not another war. Not once did i consider death an honor at that time. War isnt like the movies. Theirs no honor in it.

Once again, i ask you all to question 9/11 itself and not the resutling events.

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he has made it safe for Iraqian people to walk the streets without being blown to pieces!

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. You can't honestly think, whether or not you think Bush has made Iraq a better place in general, that people were in more danger of being blown up under Hussein? Executed by a firing squad, maybe. But blown up in the street? No, America takes the dubious pleasure of having made that particular way to die much more common.

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DEATH is part of life no matter how old the person is or how they died.
it will EVENTUALLY happen.

So, you wouldn't care if I came and blew your house up tomorrow and killed you? (Note to mods, that was absolutely hypothetical, you know I don't make death threats) However much I disagree with you on this, and I disagree quite a bit, I realize that this more than most things is something people can't be argued out of believing in. All I ask is that you not assume that everyone does, or should, share your views on the matter.

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Bush was thinking about the future

Oh yes, thinking about the future is what Bush and his administration does best. Who needs an exit plan anyway?

Note: Gabby, three posts in a row it too much, please try and refrain from doing it. If you need to edit a post, the little icon with an eraser will let you do that.

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It's better to fight them there then here.

Why is that? Because if we fight them there we kill innocent Iraqi bystanders instead of innocent American bystanders? Oh yeah, I totally see where you're going with that argument.

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Originally posted by Ikki14Reed:

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He started the war because of terrorism.
They flew aircrafts into the Twin Towers.
So he fought back.

He started the war against Terrorism and Al-Qaeda because of the attacks on American Soil. That meant that he sent soldiers to Afghanistan. As far as we know, Al-Qaeda has not been said to be in Iraq. Originally, the public was informed that there were WMDs in Iraq which is why we were sent there. However, as far as the general public has been informed, there have been no WMDs found, which leads to speculation about WHY we are in Iraq. In general, it has no connection to 9/11.

9/11 changed the way we look at threats from other countries.
Sadam Hussein was an evil dictator who started two previous wars, one involving Iran, the other involving Kuwait.
He also used WMD's on his own people.
He was told to destroy all his WMD's, as far as we know, he did not.
And Bush did not want to take the chance of Sadam Hussein giving WMD's too any terrorists to use against us.
At this present time Al-Qaeda is in Iraq.
It's better to fight them there then here.

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He started the war because of terrorism.
They flew aircrafts into the Twin Towers.
So he fought back.

He started the war against Terrorism and Al-Qaeda because of the attacks on American Soil. That meant that he sent soldiers to Afghanistan. As far as we know, Al-Qaeda has not been said to be in Iraq. Originally, the public was informed that there were WMDs in Iraq which is why we were sent there. However, as far as the general public has been informed, there have been no WMDs found, which leads to speculation about WHY we are in Iraq. In general, it has no connection to 9/11.

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Originally posted by Abi_:
hes ruined our reputation with the rest of the world, started a war based on revenge and oil, and hes just dumb. if he was assainated I would cry tears of joy! luckily we have 1 year till this idiots out of office


please excuse my lack of ability to spell.

actually he didn't start the war over oil.
He started the war because of terrorism.
They flew aircrafts into the Twin Towers.
So he fought back.
oil.
pshhh.
you ovbiously aren't educated.
if you don't know history you are doomed to repeat it.

Less than a year, actually. He officially leaves office on January 20, when the new president is inaugurated.

hes ruined our reputation with the rest of the world, started a war based on revenge and oil, and hes just dumb. if he was assainated I would cry tears of joy! luckily we have 1 year till this idiots out of office


please excuse my lack of ability to spell.

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he has made it safe for Iraqian people to walk the streets without being blown to pieces!

Perhaps in the Green Zone. But you can't honestly think that IEDs never go off any more in Iraq.

I won't touch the post about dying for freedom because I've learned it's futile to argue with a determinist. If you believe that some people were born to die for their country, then you'd probably also believe that others (like me) were born to deny it.

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Originally posted by youngpower:
I THINK THAT BUSH HAS RUENED OUR LIVES I DONT HATE HIM BUT, HE HAS LOST A LOT OF MONEY ON WAR HE NEEDS SERIOUS HELP, BECAUSE HE WHANTS TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD HES PLANNING TO TAKE ANOTHER LEADER OUT BUT KNOW FROM AFREICA WHAT DO YOU THINK? WORLD nullnull

haven't you realized that Bush has helped the people of Iraq!
he has made it safe for Iraqian people to walk the streets without being blown to pieces!