If abortion is murder is taking an innocent life, then what about the innocent girl that goes to a party, gets drunk (because of pressure), takes some crack (because of pressure), and (while drunk) stashes the rest in her little brother's playhouse. Next day: "innocent" little brother finds the drugs, takes them (without knowing what they are), and dies. Is that murder too?

Or what about swerving on the road to avoid a crash with a little old lady in a wheelchair, crashing into another car, and killing an "innocent" little girl because her mom "forgot" to buckle her up?

Evy

Eh. Everyone makes mistakes. Don't bother apologizing.

omg im soooo sry gemini...i thought it was you who said that and not lilhispaniclibra17...i would not have brought u into this if u knew it was not u who said that...i didnt pay attention to the name im really sorry juts pretend i did not say that..... SORRY!
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They already addressed the mistype in that post.

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no they didn't...i just made that mistake in the post right before i corrected myself...nobody replied between my two replies...

my YN name should not affect the fact of whether or not i am taken seriously. You know...the personality of a gemini is one that is two-faced and cannot always be trusted...should we not take u seriously b/c you are a gemini? i think not...
~barbie

The question is not whether a fetus is living, because it has to be in order to develop (then again, the same applies to bacteria), rather if the female has the jurisdiction to remove the growing embryo from her body if it causes herself and/or that developing child harm.

Barbie-
They already addressed the mistype in that post. If you don't want people think your stupid don't classify yourself as a Barbie.
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if they were not alive they would be called cells!

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sry i meant would NOT be called cells.....

~barbie

damn you people! a fetus is alive!! dead things do not grow...a fetus grows! if what you think is true then the baby is not alive until it is travelling down through the birth canal. a fetus is alive.....besides an abortion kills the cells that will grow into the baby...you cannot kill something that is not alive and cells are alive if they were not alive they would be called cells!
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You can't throw a fetus in a river, it's not even living yet!

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umm...yes...actually the fetus is alive.

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If the child will be the person to find a cure for cancer?
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Trite argument, trite response. What if the child will be the next Hitler?

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it doesnt really matter if the child would have done something great or not, there's no justifying murder.

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I'm not sure but i think it is 2 or 3 months old and they come in and kill it.

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if yer not sure, then keep yer damn mouth shut so we dont have to listen to you.

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The fetus isn't living! It's living when it can breathe on its own and eat on its own.

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the fetus IS living..theres really no proving that wrong. if it has living cells, its living. where the hell were you in science class?

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By the way a fetus is living! how many times have we told you people that! as soon as the egg is fertilized it is alive!!

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The fetus isn't living! It's living when it can breathe on its own and eat on its own.

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how stupid do u think i am? i am well aware that throwing a baby into a river has nothing to do with abortions. i am just illustrating the fact that it's wrong!

By the way a fetus is living! how many times have we told you people that! as soon as the egg is fertilized it is alive!!

I was comparing the helplessness of a fetus to a new-born baby. an abortion is just as brutal and wrong as throwing a baby into the river. you get pregnant, you don't want the baby, you kill it. It is not the child's fault that you conceived it...why should it suffer? You had to have the pleasure...you accept the responsibility
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so, when it is just a ball of cells connected to a woman's uterus with no thoughts or feelings, and getting nutrients off of the woman, it is a baby already? when is it ok to get rid of it though? with birth control? or is that murder, too, and should you never try to control it.

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mkt16a17: it doesn't matter whether the egg has feelings or not...it does however have a future. and you can't murder a baby by birth control...that prevents the baby. therefore there is no life...that is the purpose of birth control. If you do not want a baby, use the pill, a conmdem or don't have sex! The woman may not want the baby but it is her responsibilty as a woman. that is our female purpose is to raise children. if you do not want to fulfill your purpose do not abuse the right of sexual pleasure...
~barbie

Hmm... Alright, I'll admit a good point when I see one. Although I think there are some moral values that are just about universally accepted. ie murder is wrong.

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Still didn't say why my argument didn't apply. Roe v. Wade was made on that ruling, maybe. That doesn't mean if another case didn't get to the Supreme Court the First Amendment wouldn't be brought into it this time around. My argument's valid. Your just whining about the Right to Privacy not being a right.

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I wasn't whining about the right to privacy not being a right, I stated it was a right and was giving information on how it came to be. I mentioned the Supreme Court decision in 1965 to show way the Supreme Court came to the decision it did in Roe V Wade. The reason I did this was because most people are ignorant on what the deciding factor in Roe v Wade was. The religion factor is highly unlikely because if it was used the Supreme Court would more then likely not accept the case period. Also if it was accepted and the court ruled that the outlawing abortion violated the first amendment, this court decision would give everybody grounds for a complaint against some law that forced a religious moral on them.

Hey, sorry If I look incredibly mean spirited or what not, but how many people that decide to get an abortion would be able to provide a good home for their kid? We're probably doing them a damn favor. Besides, it's like AIDs. Population control.

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i really do not get you ppl! killing babies...ok do u get the carnage here?? its just like after you have a baby you decide you don't want it: should we just throw em in the river?? i think not..."well it's my baby and i don't want it...besides it's too young to think for itslef anyway" ok that could describe a real baby or a fetus too!! either way it is murder, no matter how u twist it, it is MURDER!!! you ignorant @ssholes just don't see that...

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throwing a baby in a river has nothing to do with abortion! do you even know what abortion is? You can't throw a fetus in a river, it's not even living yet!

Half-abortion is when it's a full living baby. I'm not sure but i think it is 2 or 3 months old and they come in and kill it. I don't believe that is right but i do believe ABORTION is!

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Aparently YOU don't get it!

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Nope, sorry but this a area I'll have to disagree with, even though I agree with abortion. The grounds where abortion is protected is the right to privacy.

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Still didn't say why my argument didn't apply. Roe v. Wade was made on that ruling, maybe. That doesn't mean if another case didn't get to the Supreme Court the First Ammendment wouldn't be brought into it this time around. My argument's valid. Your just whining about the Right to Privacy not being a right.

Good point, but

A: Not everyone believes in God.

B: Not every baby that is killed through an abortion is going to do something really great.

C: Most mothers who get an abortion just wanna get it over with and not listen to an explanation.

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If the child will be the person to find a cure for cancer?

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Trite argument, trite response. What if the child will be the next Hitler?

What about those people who think God put every life on planet earth and no one, no matter how hard it is for you to give birth to the child, should destroy their life? If the child will be the person to find a cure for cancer? Imagine u were just given one chance to live, and a mother who had you "by mistake" decided to end it? How about making the mothers more informed of just WHAT their actions can do?....obviously its their body, and all...but its also great to live, and we never know if by abortion we´re taking away that chance...forever