in some cases, abortion is right, in some cases, its not..and is a sad thing that has to happen. I'm at a neutral state w/ abortion...b/c in some cases, it does seem as though you dont have any respect for the woman when she really deserves it...
I don't know. If you're a foolish teenager who goes out, has sex, and you think youre old enough to have sex...well, surely you're old enough to have a baby. That's what she's decided.
However, if this is something that depends on the woman's life...and, she has a whooole family that she would leave behind...what? she dies, the husband gets another baby to take care of, that lives... No, I'm wrong. In most cases, that baby would die anyway even if the mom did decide to live out what life of her she had left.
If the woman is raped...I personally would keep the baby, and I personally think that women should also keep the baby, but its not like i'm going to stroll down the sidewalk of a clinic w/ a sign banning abortion then.
Some may think I'm right, some may think I'm ruthless...but, I'm basically "neutral". You can't call me pro-life nor pro-choice. You'd just call me neutral. Because w/ the exception of homicide, i feel neutral w/ suicide and euthanasia as well.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fine. No one is forcing you to have an abortion. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote:yes, i know that but skate was asking me what I would do, so i told her.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not the 1 that's being a dum@ss. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote:i do belive that you are.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are the 1 that thinks you know everything! You think your opinion is the best --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote:thank you very much for telling me what i think. i could say the same to you for freaking out on me every time i state my opinion...but i wont. im stating my opinion, get over it.
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just because you think it's wrong doesn't mean that everybody will agree with you! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote:right back atcha, sweetie
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sorry but I think you need to grow up. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote:yes most people at the age of 14 do have to do a bit of growing up. but then again, your 13...and im sure that you do, too.
You know what luvabug you're really pi$$ing me off. You have to put in a word about any little thing i say or someone elses say. Your a *****
[This message was edited by YNLissa on November 28, 2003 at 10:30 AM.]
quote:...Like I said, an abortion is not dealing with the consequences, it is running away. If the woman was dealing with the consequences she would go all 9 months, have the baby, and make the choice to keep it or give it up; That is handling the consequences. You cannot classify killing the child as "handling" the situation. As I said before that is running away from your responsibilites.
... and like Rito said, an abortion IS dealing with the consequences. The women are getting rid of the problem sooner than later (aka, they "kill" it before it's even alive instead of really killing it after it's born, or giving it up for adoption. Either way, she's getting rid of the problem). They're just not doing it the way you want the women to. Deal with it.
I love it how everyone blames the woman for getting pregnant. It is physically impossible for her to get pregnant without a certain something from a male. Sometimes her legs are forced open.
quote: Or does the mother's life even matter to any of you? Is it only the fetus that counts?
no the mother's life counts too, but, every woman who has sex must realize that there is a chance of getting pregnant and with that comes the risks. Risks such as her own life or the child's life. In rape cases she doesn't really have a choice but she should accept the child for what it is. ~barbie
How about we stop looking at our opinions and start considering the facts?
Women are going to have abortions whether it's legal or not. There's no point in denying that. If a woman wants an abortion badly enough, you can bet your ****ing *** she's going to get one, not caring if it's legal. And you guys are so concerned with saving the lives of the unborn children, that's why you don't agree with abortions, right? Consider this, then. If abortions are illegal, women are still going to get them, and most likely, they will not be very safe and could end in death(think Demi Moore in If These Walls Could Talk). You guys seem to be so concerned with saving lives, but the fact of the matter is that if you truly are interested in saving people's lives, then you would support abortions, simply because you know, for a fact, that some women will do whatever they can to have an abortion, even if it means sticking a bent metal clothes hanger up her vagina and bleeding to death. The question you need to ask yourself is would you rather an unborn child die because of legalized abortion, or the unborn child and the mother die because the mother threw herself down a flight of stairs trying to get rid of the child?
Or does the mother's life even matter to any of you? Is it only the fetus that counts?
quote: The action was sex, the consequence is pregnancy. How ever you choose to deal with your consequence (the unexpected pregnancy) is how you handle it.
...Like I said, an abortion is not dealing with the consequences, it is running away. If the woman was dealing with the consequences she would go all 9 months, have the baby, and make the choice to keep it or give it up; That is handling the consequences. You cannot classify killing the child as "handling" the situation. As I said before that is running away from your responsibilites.
As for rape...I understand in a case like that the child may be an unexpected and unwanted thing but even parents would understand that it was not your irresponsible actions and therefore should look shamefully upon you. ~barbie
quote:Ok...first of I wanna say that I, myself, have a 2 yr old so I can and also have tha right to speak my opinion. Now lemme get started...NO child is a mistake becuz God doesnt make mistakes. So, therefore there's no need in sayin that a female needs to have an abortion becuz the child was a mistake. Secondly, There's always other options...(say this with me) ADOPTION!!!! There are so many families out there who cant have children at all. Why not give them a chance to experience a child?? There's no reason what-so-ever for ANYONE to have an abortion as long as adoption is available. If a female is raped and ends up pregnant..go ahead and have tha baby. That child cannot help what happened to u. Trust me...u will eventually regret it. After u have that kid, put it up for adoption. If u feel like u dont wanna be reminded of what happened to u...dont be and put it up. The main reason I say I have tha right to speak for other people is becuz I kno how some of u feel. I was raped and became pregnant, and now there's nuthin in the world that I would take for my child and I would never in a million yrs. regret it or say it was a mistake. She's my life and I love her with everything I am and will ever be. People who have abortions may never be able to experience anything like this. Plz if u are thinkin about havin an abortion...email me at destieny514@aol.com and lets talk about it b4 u make a positive decision. I wouldn't want u to make a mistake that ur gonna eventually regret........I thank everyone for readin this and I hope I helped.....
see, now not everyone that has been raped feels they need to kill their child. i also see that evy had nothing to say after she realized that JVLcheer04 had been raped and was happy with her baby.
"women having abortions are not "handling" their consequences they are running away from their problems." The action was sex, the consequence is pregnancy. How ever you choose to deal with your consequence (the unexpected pregnancy) is how you handle it.
"if the girl didnt want a baby in the first place she should os never spread her legs!!!" This isn't to pick on you, first off. Whenever someone says something like this, I keep on thinking you people see going through with an unwanted pregnancy as PUNISHMENT. Children shouldn't be used as punishment, just as abortion shouldn't be used as birth control.
Okay, you have a kid so I have to respect your opinion.
quote: NO child is a mistake becuz God doesnt make mistakes.
But does God really intend for a bunch of horrible men to go and rape 13 year olds? Does he intend to have a bunch of 14 year old moms running around the world? What kind of god wants to do that kind of emotional scaring to people? Are they "sinners" that he has to "punish?"
Evy
I'm sorry that you're 17 and you have a kid. If you don't mind me asking, how did the kid come to be? You don't have to answer.
Ok...first of I wanna say that I, myself, have a 2 yr old so I can and also have tha right to speak my opinion. Now lemme get started...NO child is a mistake becuz God doesnt make mistakes. So, therefore there's no need in sayin that a female needs to have an abortion becuz the child was a mistake. Secondly, There's always other options...(say this with me) ADOPTION!!!! There are so many families out there who cant have children at all. Why not give them a chance to experience a child?? There's no reason what-so-ever for ANYONE to have an abortion as long as adoption is available. If a female is raped and ends up pregnant..go ahead and have tha baby. That child cannot help what happened to u. Trust me...u will eventually regret it. After u have that kid, put it up for adoption. If u feel like u dont wanna be reminded of what happened to u...dont be and put it up. The main reason I say I have tha right to speak for other people is becuz I kno how some of u feel. I was raped and became pregnant, and now there's nuthin in the world that I would take for my child and I would never in a million yrs. regret it or say it was a mistake. She's my life and I love her with everything I am and will ever be. People who have abortions may never be able to experience anything like this. Plz if u are thinkin about havin an abortion...email me at destieny514@aol.com and lets talk about it b4 u make a positive decision. I wouldn't want u to make a mistake that ur gonna eventually regret........I thank everyone for readin this and I hope I helped.....
quote: Wouldn't having an abortion just be a different way of handling the consequences? Women having abortions are handling the consequences, luvabug.
women having abortions are not "handling" their consequences they are running away from their problems. They cannot handle the consequences of their actions therefore thay escape from them...the wrong way. ~barbie
quote: Fine. No one is forcing you to have an abortion.
yes, i know that but skate was asking me what I would do, so i told her.
quote: I'm not the 1 that's being a dum@ss.
i do belive that you are.
quote: You are the 1 that thinks you know everything! You think your opinion is the best
thank you very much for telling me what i think. i could say the same to you for freaking out on me every time i state my opinion...but i wont. im stating my opinion, get over it.
quote: Just because you think it's wrong doesn't mean that everybody will agree with you!
right back atcha, sweetie
quote: I'm sorry but I think you need to grow up.
yes most people at the age of 14 do have to do a bit of growing up. but then again, your 13...and im sure that you do, too.
I don't see them getting a say in anything. MURDERERS. it's gruesome enough that people kill other people but an innocent baby? good god how can you call that right. burn in hell
my brother and his friend used to sing these songs " God made trees, Man made cheese Women make babies if you just say please" or "Women make babies if they just open their knees"
That song gets on my nerves. All i want to say is i totally support all you teens who are taking care of their kids. But we woulndt have a problem with teen pregnancies if we didnt open our knees and sometimes girls do bcuz guys say please. Its sad that this song is kinda tru. But i still support and respect all teen moms becuase you took on your responsibilities.
Did you know 1/3 of our generation is already dead because of abortion!!!??? Abortion is like killing urself becuz u r!!! Ur killing that growing baby inside u that has ur DNA and gentics.if the girl didnt want a baby in the first place she should os never spread her legs!!! the least she cold do is let the baby go up 4 adoption!!!
I'm not the 1 that's being a dum@ss. You are the 1 that thinks you know everything! You think your opinion is the best. Just because you think it's wrong doesn't mean that everybody will agree with you! I'm sorry but I think you need to grow up.
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