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Picture of youthforchange
Registered: April 24, 2006
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Originally posted by Meagan87:
This thread is so old...

Stop taking things so personally and making generalizations about people's beliefs.


Ya guys, please! You can't just go around acting like fools criticising other cultures and traditions!
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Registered: May 07, 2003
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This thread is so old...

I'm a Detroiter...give me thirty minutes and I'll be in Canada. We joke about Canada here because it really is no different from us (in school, when it was asked, "who's been to a foreign country?" they always had to say "aside from Canada" because it is so close). I don't see what the big debate is about...From my understanding KRC is mad because the Americans were upset because Canada wasn't going to be joining them in a war that most Americans did not/do not support.

Stop taking things so personally and making generalizations about people's beliefs.


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
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Registered: October 19, 2005
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NOT TRUE! More ppl r against this war and thats a fact! If more people are for the war then why is Bushes approval rating at 32%??????????????????????????????????????????


there are quite a few other issues in America besides the war. The war is not everything. besides, the troops support what they are doing. They are proud to make a difference.


"The price of Freedom is paid in lives" - Adm. Geoffrey Tolwyn
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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a collision with what?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 10, 2001
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They rolled the LAV III because they tried to avoid a collision and had to go into a ditch.


They call this war a cloud over the land but they made the weather then they stand in the rain and say s*** it's rainin.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I have hard time think og how to roll a LAV with out serious opertor error or a hit from a tank shell and i was thinking of a diffrent incident at a checkpoint in Iraq pardon me


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 10, 2001
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What are you talking about. The US pilot was ordered to standby and not fire on the soldiers and was found guilty of deriliction of duty because he did fire. He was going to be charged with manslaughter at one time.

Lav III is an 8 wheeled vehicle. It is not hard to imagine is rolling if driven on a slope.


They call this war a cloud over the land but they made the weather then they stand in the rain and say s*** it's rainin.
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Registered: April 24, 2006
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[/QUOTE]More and more people have been supportng the war since it began.[/QUOTE]

NOT TRUE! Roll Eyes More ppl r against this war and thats a fact! If more people are for the war then why is Bushes approval rating at 32%??????????????????????????????????????????
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Hey with the us friendly fire thing your boys would not stop when signaled to do so that's their own damn faults

and as to the rest it's a dangerous job.

btw how the hell did you have a LAV roll over?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 10, 2001
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Actually casualties are 16 deaths. that is 4 from friendly fire (from an American), 1 firefighting, 4 from a roadside bomb, 2 in a LAV III crash, 1 in a suicide attack, 1 in a LAV III rollover, 1 in a suicide attack, 2 in a landmine explosion.

My dropping like flies statement is over done but we have had 5 killed and 12 wounded in the last month not terribly impressive but we only have 2000 soldiers there.


They call this war a cloud over the land but they made the weather then they stand in the rain and say s*** it's rainin.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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If causalties are as high as you say they are (I haven't checked recently) then it must be something and when it comes to combat deaths that usuall means a combo of insuffcient training and general unprepardness. I have no evidence either way so I'm just going off of the standard causes of combat deaths


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Personally, I'm more of a Canadian at heart. So don't blame me, dude.


Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: August 10, 2001
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Where is your evidence that our troops are insufficently trained. I can't find any evidence either way.


They call this war a cloud over the land but they made the weather then they stand in the rain and say s*** it's rainin.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Well then good for you, time trained doesn't matter quality is what counts not how fast you can pop out a infantry squad from basic


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 10, 2001
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Americans and Canadian actually have similar training times (infantry 13 weeks vs 18 weeks. It isn't easy to find comparisons.

Some our deaths and injuries were due to poor equipment but in the last couple of years we have replaced almost everything so we actually have better stuff than most.


They call this war a cloud over the land but they made the weather then they stand in the rain and say s*** it's rainin.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I meant for things like the axe nut and yes suicide bombing is a problem that is hard to counter I never said it wasn't but training can correct everything if you work at it you may not be able to stop it but you may be able to take minimal casualties with proper training


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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4 killed April 22 2006: Roadside bomb

That stuff just happens. Really can't prepare for it. Most of our fatalities are from suicide attacks (one from firefighting). The American troops also have a large number of casualties from this.


They call this war a cloud over the land but they made the weather then they stand in the rain and say s*** it's rainin.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Exactly the problem they need to train for the unexpected and how to deal with weird situations like that.

and krc it's actually good to see you again and I look forward to verbal dogfighting with you again


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 10, 2001
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People aren't really trained be ambushed during peace talks by a guy with an axe. The axe man was killed but not before he severely wounded a soldier. If the soldiers had shot first they would have been violating the agreement for the meeting.


They call this war a cloud over the land but they made the weather then they stand in the rain and say s*** it's rainin.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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krc I hate to break it to you but to the jihad the whole western world (canada included) is a viable target.

and yes your boys are now in the line of fire but all the troops in Iraq are in the crosshairs as well. In the end if your troops had better training and better gear casualites would drop that's how it works with modern militarys


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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