Well follks I hope you enjoyed that piss poor attempt at making me feel bad... A classic example of what someone will say when they have nothing left, when they KNOW they are wrong, when they cant even think of a decent argument against the truth.

That was pathetic Ambition... good riddance

Hydrok, honestly, there is no point in arguing with you because you can't seem to open your eyes. You don't even know what is happening everyday in my country. Not everything is shown, not everything is heard. I've seen too much and no matter what I'm going to say, you're going to try to put me down. I have so many things to say to you, and I have so much evidence. But I have decided that I will never come on this board again...you know why? You can't see the truth when it's right in front of you. One day, I ppromise you that the world will see it. Other than that, I hope you enjoy your time telling the world what kind of knowledge you have. Enjoy bringing everyone down...I'd like to see the moment when it turns back on you.

Have a great life

Where to begin?

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Look, this is a site dedicated to giving a voice to young people. It would be nice if you could stop telling people to shut up. You're never going to get everyone to agree with you but you CAN voice your opinions without being an asshole.

Well usually it’s considered bad form to talk out your ass, I call it diarrhea of the mouth. I think that asking you to be silent on a subject that you admittedly know very little about is actually doing you a favor so you don’t look like a bigger idiot than you already have. Opinions are nice, but they are like assholes, everyone has one, but your uninformed opinion is arguably much worse, especially when you try to make it out like I’m apathetic.

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Over 600 civillian deaths in Lebanon. How many members of Hizbollah have been killed so far? Last I heard it was like 15 or something, making it 40 inoccent people for each person actually implicated in this. It's so sad the way the world can just disregard these lives being lost and then mourn for the Israeli lives lost. Life is life, it's the same value. Where you were born shouldn't dictate whether or not it's ok to blow you up.

You can not trust a pro-Hizbollah government or Hizbollah themselves to give an accurate number of their people killed. They like to under report their losses so that it serves as deterrence to Israel. When you consider that an entire border town of Bint Jubayl was evacuated of civilians and Israel has been fighting there for nearly three days now, I’m sure that the Hizbollah casualty count is in the hundreds just from that town.
While I appreciate the sentimental value of life, those that are responsible for not acting against Hizbollah for the last six years can take a share in the responsibility. Basically the Lebanese government defied UN resolution, and now they are paying the price.

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Hydrok, this may be partly because Israel needs to defend itself, but why can't you open your eyes? They are testing Iran. Israel is a cunning country...very smart, very calculating. Iran may get into this war sooner or later. I hope not. However Israel wants to see what Iran can do with its nuclear power.

All I can say about this is that it is awful presumptuous to say that this entire war is about trying to lure Iran into a conflict. If Israel wanted to do that, they would have attacked Iran directly. They have that capability. And what the hell is this nonsense about testing Iran’s nuclear capability? It’s currently non-existent, so I would refer you to my first paragraph of this post.

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Also, I don't believe in your phone-call theory. There had been someone who had received messages from the 4 saying that they had been trying to stop Israel. Kofi Annan had made it clear that he needed a cease-fire.

I didn’t say you needed to believe it but using the test of the reasonable person, my theory on the subject is a hell of a lot more believable than the one being pumped out into the media. But here if that’s not enough for you read this:

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The words of a Canadian United Nations observer written just days before he was killed in an Israeli bombing of a UN post in Lebanon are evidence Hezbollah was using the post as a "shield" to fire rockets into Israel, says a former UN commander in Bosnia.

Those words, written in an e-mail dated just nine days ago, offer a possible explanation as to why the post -- which according to UN officials was clearly marked and known to Israeli forces -- was hit by Israel on Tuesday night, said retired Maj.-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie yesterday.

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"What I can tell you is this," he wrote in an e-mail to CTV dated July 18. "We have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both (Israeli) artillery and aerial bombing.

"The closest artillery has landed within 2 meters (sic) of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters (sic) from our patrol base. This has not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to tactical necessity."

Those words, particularly the last sentence, are not-so-veiled language indicating Israeli strikes were aimed at Hezbollah targets near the post, said Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie.

"What that means is, in plain English, 'We've got Hezbollah fighters running around in our positions, taking our positions here and then using us for shields and then engaging the (Israeli Defence Forces)," he said.

That would mean Hezbollah was purposely setting up near the UN post, he added. It's a tactic Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie, who was the first UN commander in Sarajevo during the Bosnia civil war, said he's seen in past international missions: Aside from UN posts, fighters would set up near hospitals, mosques and orphanages.
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The UN post, he wrote in the e-mail, afforded a view of the "Hezbollah static positions in and around our patrol Base."

"It appears that the lion's share of fighting between the IDF and Hezbollah has taken place in our area," he wrote, noting later it was too dangerous to venture out on patrols.

The e-mail appears to contradict the UN's claim there had been no Hezbollah activity in the vicinity of the strike.
The question of Hezbollah's infiltration of the area is significant because UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, speaking Tuesday just hours after the bombing, accused the Israelis of the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the base near Khiam in southern Lebanon.

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You're extremely ignorent Hydrok.

Sticks and stones ambition, you hardly have room to talk, and I wouldn’t put your intelligence level high enough to be able to make that assessment accurately.

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WHY DO YOU DISRESPECT LEBANON WHEN I HAVE NOTHING BUT SHOWN RESPECT FOR ISRAEL?

How can I respect a country that allows a terrorist organization operate freely along the border, then has a government that supports Hizbollah? How can I respect the underhanded and cowardly acts of Hizbollah, when they use women and children as shields? How can I respect citizens that give Hizbollah access to their homes to use as a rocket staging area?

Oh and for some more info check these out, what a wonderful country you have:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060728/wl_mideast_afp/mid...lebanon_060728224804

http://vitalperspective.typepad.com...1.html#comments

The second link is a movie, it shows a rocket being launched in the first second of it, that’s what the big smoke trail is, and your getting the video through a LGB with electro optics. That’s why you can see it all the way up to impact. You’ll notice the populated area they are firing from seems to be inhabited. This is in slow motion by the way.

Have a nice day!

Hydrok, this may be partly because Israel needs to defend itself, but why can't you open your eyes? They are testing Iran.Israel is a cunning country...very smart, very calculating. Iran may get into this war sooner or later. I hope not. However Israel wants to see what Iran can do with its nuclear power.

Also, I don't believe in your phone-call theory. THere had been someone who had recieved messages from the 4 saying that they had been trying to stop Israel. Kofi Annan had made it clear that he needed a cease-fire.

Sphinx- thank-you!

You're extremely ignorent Hydrok. You never answered this one question :

WHY DO YOU DISRESPECT LEBANON WHEN I HAVE NOTHING BUT SHOWN RESPECT FOR ISRAEL? Kids are not dumb hydrok. They're innocent. Again and again i'll tell you that both sides need to stop. Too many are dying. Especially the lebanese. The Hezbollah have not formed a seige in Israel. Israel is being extremely heavy-handed. Children are beginning to eat leaves from trees inLebanon...and it's not even spoken about in the media. I have seen it, and my group has been trying to help out. Believe me it's so hard to help when the roads and bridges have been bombed.

RESPOND TO THAT AND DO NOT IGNORE IT WITH YOUR ARROGANCE

Look, this is a site dedicated to giving a voice to young people. It would be nice if you could stop telling people to shut up. You're never going to get everyone to agree with you but you CAN voice your opinions without being an asshole.

Over 600 civillian deaths in Lebanon. How many members of Hizbollah have been killed so far? Last I heard it was like 15 or something, making it 40 inoccent people for each person actually implicated in this. It's so sad the way the world can just disregard these lives being lost and then mourn for the Israeli lives lost. Life is life, it's the same value. Where you were born shouldn't dictate whether or not it's ok to blow you up.

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because if you knew that I was wiser on the topic you would shut your mouth, be quiet, and learn. Your not interested in learning, just pointing out how apathetic I am.

excellent comeback hydrok!

See that is classic ignorance right there... This war isn't about two soldiers any more, now it's about protecting Israel... Hizballah has made it painfully clear that they are able to strike with quite some accuracy... so now Israel needs to eliminate the threat.

And about the UN thing, I was disagreeing with the phone call part, because to my knowledge that never happened... in fact they were told to get the hell out of there.

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No one is dumb. no one is ignorent.

contrary to all evidence

And why don't you respond to what I said about respecting my people when I have been respecting Israel? I never once said that they were evil or that they were dumb. I respect them. I just think that all of this war isn't for two soldiers.

Sorry Hydrok, my wrong when I wrote 2 I meant23. Forgive me. But they make up 11% of the parliament.

Plus what do you mean about the theories you have about the u.N. bombing? Just moments agao you had denied them. Why don't you share to the world your theories if you are so confident about your opinion?

This is amusing to say the least. I have a theory on the UN bombing incident, but I'm not ready to share it with the world yet.

Your numbers suck, especially for claiming to live there... according to the state department there are 23 Hizballah in the lebanese parlament.

The name of the investigator was Mehlis

It's true that almost half of the Lebanese citizens support Hezbollah, but the rest don't. Only 2 members of the parliament are Shite Muslim and belong to the Hezbollah. The government has tried to disarm them, including Harriri, who was killed in 2005 on Valentine's Day. An investigator from Germany (i'll get u his name, at the moment I have forgotten) stated that the Syrian Government had done the job. Syria used to have immense power over what went on in government. That's why Hydrok (you claim you know your stuff, and it looks like you do. Just RESPECT what I know. Not everyone is ignorent) many...let me say thousands of Lebanese citizens had protested in the city.

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I have NEVER disrespected an Israeli citizen being killed in the midst of bombs from Hezbollah. However you have called one of my people "a dumb kid". No one is dumb. no one is ignorent. A person is a person Hydrok. Get it. I am not trying to make everyone here side with me and my country. I'm just so tired that some people can never find peace in the well-being of humanity.

Hydrok, I'm not making up the news about Israel killing 4 U.N. peacekeepers when they had called 10 times. I'm not a liar, and my country certainly doesn't need anyone's sympathy. So many organizations in our country, including my church has decided to stand up and help out those who need it. Here's the article you wanted.Maybe it's you who needs to watch some news for once. Plus Lebanon has no power over the media.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article14206.htm...:UN Officials: Observers Asked Israel 10 Times To Halt Bombs

By Associated Press

JERUSALEM (AP)--U.N. peacekeepers in southern Lebanon called the Israeli military 10 times over a six-hour period to ask it to halt its nearby bombing before their observation post was hit, killing four people, according to details of a preliminary U.N. report on the incident released to The Associated Press on Wednesday.

During each phone call, an Israeli official promised to halt the bombing, according to a U.N. official who had seen the preliminary report.

The U.N. peacekeepers at the post said the area within a kilometer of the post was hit with precision munitions, including 17 bombs and 12 artillery shells, four of which directly hit the post Tuesday, the report said.

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/articleArchive/jul2006/unreportisrael.php:U.N. observers asked Israel to stop bombing 10 times before their post was hit, UN report says
By RAVI NESSMAN Associated Press Writer
2006-07-26JERUSALEM (AP) - U.N. observers in Lebanon telephoned the Israeli military 10 times in six hours to ask it to stop shelling near their position before an Israeli attack destroyed their border outpost, killing four observers and sparking widespread international anger with Israel.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert expressed "deep regret" for the deaths and dismay over U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan's accusation that the attack Tuesday on the observation post in Khiam, near the eastern end of the border with Israel, was "apparently deliberate."

The bombing put Israel on the defensive two weeks into its campaign against Hezbollah guerrillas in southern Lebanon.

China called for an Israeli apology and asked the U.N. Security Council to condemn the bombing, which killed one of its citizens, and demand Israel stop attacking U.N. positions and personnel.

"For China and for others," China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya said, "we condemn this because I think any attack on the United Nations positions and the United Nations personnel is inexcusable and unacceptable."

Austria and Finland, both of which also lost citizens in the attack, condemned the bombing, with Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja calling it "truly tragic." The fourth victim of the bombing was Canadian.

"These so-called precision attacks seem to be mainly targeting everyone else except the Hezbollah," Tuomioja said. "The longer this continues the more likely it is that there will be more similar victims."

Olmert told Annan in a phone call Wednesday that the attack was inadvertent and he promised a "thorough investigation," according to a statement from Olmert's office.

White House spokesman Tony Snow described the strike as a "horrible thing," but said Israel was behaving responsibly in its aftermath. "They'll be completely transparent in the way they conduct the investigation," Snow said. "And I think that's the appropriate way to proceed."

The base near Khiam came under intense Israeli fire 21 times Tuesday, including 12 hits within 100 meters (yards) and four direct hits, from 1:20 p.m. until contact was lost with the four peacekeepers inside at 7:17 p.m., Jane Lute, assistant secretary-general for peacekeeping, told the U.N. Security Council in New York.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20060726-1956-...ing-unobservers.html

Also, thanks libreal4rock.I can't believe you sided with me. yes I also agree that the hezbollah have no right to kill either, but israel must stop encouraging them.

Something new that I finally caught onto here recently as well. We all know that America historically supports Israel, well it seems that our own government is at an impasse that they are going to have a long drawn out fight over. Condi Rice is going to be returning to the middle east to attempt to draft a cease fire, but at the same time Bush is sitting in his White House office cheering the Israelis on... how long do you think it will take for the rest of America to pick up on this. And which head do you think will prevail, Condi's peace talks or Bush's desire for the removal of Hizballah... I for one, either way do not care, if there is one war I'm willing to fight and one place I would fight it, it would be on the boarder of lebanon taking down Hizballah encampments. God what i wouldn't give to work with the Israeli intelligence agency for 6 months.

because if you knew that I was wiser on the topic you would shut your mouth, be quiet, and learn. Your not interested in learning, just pointing out how apathetic I am.

And also I jnow you know more than me on this topic but why do always have to be so pompous and arrogant in all your remarks?

ha I know Lebanon has always supported or as i look at it allowed Hezbollah. I also want to point out that all you have said and done while i have been on is Contradict everything i say and everyone elses. why? Im not mad or anything id just like to listen to something you have to say about it (like the situation) and not about how im always wrong. Thanks

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"give a lesson to the whole Arab world that whoever faces Israel will lose."

Israel has been trying to teach that lesson for years, hell since they became a nation it's not their fault the arab world is to thick to figure it out

Oh my my my what have we here... this seems like government support of Hizballah to me... Looks like all your anti-israel rhetoric is about to get flushed finally.

Lebanon President supports Hizballah

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Lahoud accused Israel of having more sinister plans than just disarming Hezbollah, protecting its northern border or winning the release of two soldiers Hezbollah captured on July 12, sparking the confrontat