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Oh sure, so then what is your solution! You and Hydrok distrub me with you extreme LACK of human empathy, good lord!

So you have no soultion, thus you have no point so shut up already as to empathy I have trouble feeling bad for the folks who started it

Your absolutley right pandora we should care the same with Isreals deaths. The kateusha missiles that hezbolah has are killing many Isrealies. But its not lebanon that bombing Isreal its Hezbollah. We wouldnt go bomb a southern town in Georgia trying to kill some KKK activits. The kateusha missiles that hezbolah has are killing many Isrealies.

Oh sure, so then what is your solution! You and Hydrok distrub me with you extreme LACK of human empathy, good lord!

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Im making two points one that this could of been solved without bombing the heck out of a small weak and suffering country.

So now it's because Lebanon is weak. Well for such a weak country Lebanon sure has alot of balls. They want to be perceived as the innocent, weak, non-threating ones and yet they continue to bomb Isreal too. You can say what you want, but innocent civilian casualties are the main reason why people hate wars. You can't convince someone that the deaths in Lebanon are more important and we should care about the more than those of Isreal.

I mean Seclective as in not bombing grocery strores. Not the accruacy of the missiles.

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Will YOu EVER UNDERSTAND that one Mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter!

God is that tired old slogan, I can not comprehedn that you would say that much lesss think it

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but they are bombing alot of civillian targets

that are occupied by the freakin bad guys! solution civvies no let bad guys in to their homes private structures

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makes you for one look like a fool. nothing further..

oh he the one who looks like a fool huh?

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this could of been solved without bombing the heck out of a small weak and suffering country.

The other way was invasion which would have cost a hell of alot more lives and likely had syria and iran jump in to the fight, shortly followed by the US, Don't say something like that unless you have a solution

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Isreal should be far far more selective on their bomb targets.

Okay so instead of precision guided laser bombing israel can roll out some heavy bombers and just carpet bomb every village/city/town with HE and Napalm until nothings left. What the Israelis are doing now is selective in the extreme

I do agree that Hezbollah firing rocket into Isreal is completely unacceptable, an act of war. Yes, killing of lebannese civilians is not in Isreals intrest, but the deaths inspire Hezbolah to continue. I just think that Isreal should be far far more selective on their bomb targets.

Ambition is right, Its human lives that matter. Isreal may not be bombing aimlessly but they are bombing alot of civillian targets. I mean for Gods sake Hydrok Will YOu EVER UNDERSTAND that one Mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter! Either way Dont you think that with our help (other than supplying bombs) that Isreal should confront this by counter terrorist sabotage of the Hezbollah heiarchy!!
Im making two points one that this could of been solved without bombing the heck out of a small weak and suffering country.
And My second point is that you should really stop being an idiot to other peoples sincere praposals, because it makes you for one look like a fool. nothing further....

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We have already been through a war (however I was born in Ohio while it was still going on), and Israel has been killing innocent civilians as well.

Why should we understand the civilian deaths in Labanon, but not in Isreal? You can't have it both ways. People are going to die, innocent people. You can't expect people to think that the Lebanese are A-OK people and the Isrealis are blatant murderers. Hezbollah has to be taken care of and by you defending them is showing us exactly why Lebanon is going through this now.

Propaganda again... stunning, absolutly stunning. Where to begin? How about with the UN peacekeepers. That whole statement is a fabrication, I'd like an article and a link to where I can get that information.

A bit to fanatical... jesus H fucking christ your kidding!!! Hizballah has been conducting their little war on Israel for nearly 60 years!!! Israel left Lebanon with a promise from the international community that Hizballah would be disarmed, well guess what it didn't happen, and because the UN didn't check up on it or do anything about it Israel is going to solve the problem how they best know how, militarily.

First of all for the record, and while I cant show you I wish I could, but Israel is not indescriminatly bombing whatever the hell they feel like and here's a couple reasons:

1. Waste of muitions and other resources

Ok so there is only one reason, but it is militarily sound, and it's the truth. Now if some ddumb kid got killed when Israel took down the Hizballah TV station or some dumb thing like that, or some kid was playing on the wrong side of town, there is nothing they can do about that, but the medias portrayal of Israel using bombs on cars filled with "innocent civilians" is a joke. Civilian casualties are a side effect of war, big fucking deal get over it. Lebanon apparently wanted this war, now they got it. I just want Syria and Iran to jump in so we can bomb the hell out of them with Israel, and make a big old crater out of the entire region... turn it into a glass parking lot.

Oh this was good to by the way i found it incredibly amusing...

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I watch CNN everyday. It's a fact.

I watch CNN, FOX, MSNBC, Al-Jezzera, and read multiple arab and israeli newspappers every day, I know when the media is exaggerating, and i know when they are lying. All of that information is backed up with some of the best professionals in all of the military, state dept., and CIA.

Glad it made you angry... it builds character.

One more thing: Israel killed 4 U.N. peacemakers after ignoring their plea to stop the bombing. They had called 10 times before they were killed, and each time, Israel promised to stop. What can you say about that Hydrok?

I forgot to add a response to your question about how lebanese civilians bringing the Hexbollah into their homes. It'snot because they'll blow the hell out of us. It's because we are hospitable and the suffering we have seen inspires us to help them out. I am sorry if they are a bit too fanatical to your taste. They do have a soft side. Our government is weak, true, but it does not stop fighting. And why should Israel blow them all out of society? Even though I am on no one's side (except the sake for humanity), no one has a right to kill people. Do you think that they're that bad? That's just what they want you to think. BOTH SIDES NEED TO STOP


I CAN'T BELIEVE THE WORLD IS BECOMING LIKE THIS. DO YOU WANT THE WHOLE PLANET TO DIE>>??????

By the way, we have soldiers in Israel too. And we haven't seen them in a long time. We don't know if they're alive.

Hi hydrok, Iwon't lie...you're response hurt me and made me angry. I would like to add that i'm an American citizan. My country is not pathetic. The goernment has tried to take Hezbollah out of parliament, but other influences have not allowed that. A cease-fire will temporarily help the Lebanese people to live again. We can't find food or water that quickly anymore. We have already been through a war (however I was born in Ohio while it was still going on), and Israel has been killing innocent civilians as well. I am aware that the Hezbollah has killed many in Haifa and othertowns, but it does not match the amount of Lebanese being killed. This isn't a question of politics anymore. This is about saving humanity. You don't know what we're going through because you are so tight with your opinions. I respect that though because you are holding on to your belief. but can't you opem your eyes just a little bit and see the reasons behind this war? Just like someone posted earlier, this war isn't about two soldiers. This is about testing Iran (Hezbollah is supported by them)to see what they can do about their nuclear power. I am an American so don't think that I'm not open to your point of view. Just please be a little open to mine. Israel is taking this too far. The media is not exagerating. I watch CNN everyday. It's a fact.

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How about this Ambition, again you like most fail to grasp the larger picture as per usual.

What would you like Israel to do instead of pummeling the crap out of your pathetic country?

Well the whole bit here is that everyone keeps shouting prisoner exchange which is mentally retarted of someone to say, seeing how it wasn't war time to begin with and the Hizballah intruded onto Israeli land, attacked, and ran. Thats like walking up to a dragon, poking it in the eye and expecting not to get fried.

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What would the terms of a cease fire entail?

The only way a cease fire should happen is the unconditional return of the kidnapped soldiers and the expulsion of hizballah from the government and an international force to secure a 20 mile buffer zone in southern lebanon.

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Why are there still to this day Hizballah in your government?

This is simply because the Lebanese government is too weak... they did not do what they were ordered by the UN to do, and they didn't ask for assistance either.

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Why does the cabinet have Hizballah in it?

Corruption, conflicts of intrest etc...

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Why do Lebanese citizens allow Hizballah the use of their homes as shelters?

Because they dont want Hizballah to kill them, which makes me wonder why they have popular support.

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How should Israel deal with Hizballah that are firing rockets from mosques?

They should blow the hell out of them

Hydrok I would like to hear some answers from you too on some of those questions.

How about this Ambition, again you like most fail to grasp the larger picture as per usual.

What would you like Israel to do instead of pummeling the crap out of your pathetic country?

What would the terms of a cease fire entail?

Why are there still to this day Hizballah in your government?

Why does the cabinet have Hizballah in it?

Why do Lebanese citizens allow Hizballah the use of their homes as shelters?

How should Israel deal with Hizballah that are firing rockets from mosques?

Answer all of those before you spread your propoganda.

There has Been voilence in Isreal and the Surrounding aress for thousands of years and ever since World War 2 ended The Alies have come a long way with helping Isreal onto its own feet. One way nowdays is by giving Isreal an extremely abundant supply of bombs, missiles,cash ect... Hezbollah will be crushed eventullaly, What Hezbollah did to Isreal was wrong but what Isreal Is doing is Horribly wrong. It should be counter terrorissm not bombing of civvialn buildings! I very much doubt it will be a "Full-Scale" war. Hezbollah is too weak so is Lebanon...Isreal is a power-house by our doing. And now Condi will be there while Bush is Meeting the American Idol Taylor Hicks!! Lets desprealtly hope that condi can make some terms.

Hi, first of all, I'm a Lebanese, and duh, I'm living in Lebanon. I have no wish to say anything against Israel, but I need to say some things-facts. One of you said that Israel isn't aiming at civilians. It's true that they warned two places (Achrafieh, and Sidon) about the bombs but they also have hit Jounieh, a christian city which is densely populated. My grandparents live there, and they have nothing to do with the Hezbollah, along with the many others living there. Israel has EVERY right to have a response to the capture of their two soldiers; It's so sad to see their families in grief. But the truth is that their response was too harsh. We are under a siege, and this morning, children in the south started to eat leaves because of the little food. I am not exagerating. I hope this has shed some light. Please pray that both sides will stop the killing.

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Cute... Please tell me your not here to promote whatever Breaking Ranks is.

Nope - only insofar as it's in my sig line because I maintain the blog there. :-) It has absolutely nothing to do with Israel or Palestine.

Cute... Please tell me your not here to promote whatever Breaking Ranks is.