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Picture of FeiJiao
Registered: July 07, 2003
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What are you some sort of wordsmith-nazi?


Thanks. Be a word-smith nazi, take an English course.

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Proof reading isn't necessary for a ****ing forum. The kind of **** we don't need is people pointing out spelling/grammar errors. It doesn't ****ing matter!


Swearing isn't necessary for a forum either, but you don't seem to care about that much. It's reasonably difficult to understand someone when you cannot even get a complete sentence, or one that you don't have to look back and think about what they tried to say.

Careless mistakes, such as the bloodless war (Yea, I said we'd drop that, but just one moment for the purpose of example.) That sentence had a completely different meaning than what red wanted it to. It is important.

These are crucial to discussion, but you just must have a lack of vocabulary or something to have such an inferiority complex over it.

It does matter, and if you would kindly pipe down, I'm waiting for red or someone with a point to make.
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What are you some sort of wordsmith-nazi? Proof reading isn't necessary for a ****ing forum. The kind of **** we don't need is people pointing out spelling/grammar errors. It doesn't ****ing matter!
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i never said you where the author i was nswering your post moron.


Ehm, any respect for you just died. If you had taken any time whatsoever to reread anything you wrote, that sentence would have come out like this;
"I never said you were the author, I was answering your post, moron." Who's the real subject of this insult?

And by the way, answer means that there was a question. Therefore, a ? has to be present. There was none, fool.

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i misstyped when i said when i sadi that thing about the bloodless war. i meant the opposite of what i said.


Ok, we'll strike that one from the record as long as you do us all a nice, simple favour; proof-read your work.

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you take things too literally when i say insane i really dont mean it.


Let's stick with the saying, "Don't mean it? Don't say it."

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oh yeah im 14. im just entering high school. i cannot have taken a debate class.
and yes i have participated in debates before.



Well, that is good because your teacher would have been appalled if you had taken one. I recommend a debate class for you though, I honestly believe that you may enjoy it.
Well, that is, in itself, debatable with the skills you have shown us.

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what makes our cause not just? i told you what we have done and at the end of the month power will be vested in the Iraqi people.
we were threatened by the existence of saddam's regime.
he needed to be defeated.



a) Learn the difference between "not just" and "not yet fully justified"
b) Get back to me when you do

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who the hell is lilith?
it sounds like it just dictates your life and does nothing to stop problems in this world.
God will lend a helping hand to anyone who asks sicerely.


Please capitalize. I capitalize God, you capitalize Lilith. Also, she is not an it but a her.

(On a side note, if you are able, please take a world religions course in highschool.)

Lilith is the Goddess of storms in the Sumerian Pantheon. She represents the moon, disorder, education and knowledge. She also represents female wisdom, courage, and power. She is my patron Goddess. If I attempted to parallel Her to Christian tradition, it would be similar to God the father.
I don't believe in God, but Lilith is my equivalent you could say.

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talk about thick. i said this in my last post.


Originality is also a lesser practice quality of a good debate. You said it, and made errors. Therefore, it is logical to repost it.

Let us have a quick recap for red's benefit;
1. Proof-read your work
2. You answer a question
3. Take a grammar course
4. Proof-read
5. "Don't mean it? Don't say it."
6. Take a debate course
7. Learn the difference between "not just" and "not yet fully justified"
8. Capitalize
9. Lilith is the Goddess of storms
10. Take a world religions course
11. Restate if you make errors
12. Proof-read
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i never said you where the author i was nswering your post moron.
so you do not in fact believe in Saddam. Fine that is good.
i misstyped when i said when i sadi that thing about the bloodless war. i meant the opposite of what i said.
you take things too literally when i say insane i really dont mean it.
oh yeah im 14. im just entering high school. i cannot have taken a debate class.
and yes i have participated in debates before.
what makes our cause not just? i told you what we have done and at the end of the month power will be vested in the Iraqi people.
we were threatened by the existence of saddam's regime.
he needed to be defeated.
who the hell is lilith?
it sounds like it just dictates your life and does nothing to stop problems in this world.
God will lend a helping hand to anyone who asks sicerely.

talk about thick. i said this in my last post.

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He needs to pull all Americans, allies and good Iraqis out of bad places and let the Air Force have bombing and gunnery practice. They need it. They also are itching to push that button on the joystick.
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Im not going to get into any more of these “contradictories” because the above should prove my point.


Your point died like a mosquito going into a light socket. I am in no way, shape, or form, the writer of The Skeptic's Annotated Bible. Moron. You have no point.

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America was only to go so far as to take out Saddam rebuild their government and then switch the power from America to Iraq. And that is and was happening.


Ok, red. Listen. Just War is like a law/code whatever in itself. It has rules. It has regulations. Look it up already. Your above statement is in no way addressing Just War.

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How is the cause for not justifiable? give me reasons then just blindly accusing the war as not fully justifiable. Saddam was killing and torturing. He threatened America not verbally but with his actions. What else is there


Stupidity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Please rephrase that first sentance, "How is the cause for not justifiable?" I never said that the war is not fully justifiable, but not yet fully justified. Justifiable means it is not, and cannot be justified. Justified means that is may be justifiable, but maybe not yet. Fool.

Ask me questions AFTER and only after you read two, for you 3, times.

Ok, I quote you...
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Are you saying you are standing up for Saddam’s sadistic beliefs?

I quote me...
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1. I never said that Saddam is, in any way, shape or form, a good guy. 2. Who can tell if a God has an everlasting life for us? 3. Thanks, but no. Get me a good quote of where, on this board, I said that I hurt people.


Is it just me, or is red illiterate or just plain thick?

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Yes, and people are men. You proved my point. Man’s actions are not superior to God’s.
He does try to help if you only ask for it sincerely.
Its just the world is full of people like you that will refuse to let him lend a helping hand


In order for me to prove your "point", you need one to start off with. Man's actions are superior to "God's" because it is unheard of for "God" to help people in war and whatnot. Lend who a helping hand precisely? Whoever said I was Catholic? Whoever said I believed in this one true God (with a capital G none the less).

Lilith lends me all the help I need, however she only lends advice and stability, not miracles. What good is man if we have to sit around and wait for God to help us? Most of them prefer to have us do our own work, makes us stronger and more thoughtful.

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Talk about needed to hear the obvious. that insane koltrane said that Americans died for no reason. Even liberals wouldnt venture so far as to say that.


Insane. Karen, where are you presently? A house? Apartment? Something of the like? No white walls, no nice padding, no locked door, windows? Tell me Karen, are you in an asylum, or are you just open minded? Even better question, are you a liberal? Even so, are you venturing your thoughts on the matter? Hello, say debate with us, red.

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It looked as if some people like koltrane didn’t think there could be a bloodless war that’s why I said that.
How are we doing the wrong thing?
TELL ME. You seem to evade that question.


A bloodless war. Tell me, how is this war bloodless? I never said we were doing the wrong thing. I said we may not be doing this with enough "right" to make it right.

And I am positive EarthGoddess wouldn't like you quoting her off the boards where she yells at you for evading questions.

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I thought it was obvious that the accomplishments from clinton’s presidency came from Reagen. Well I guess some people don’t have the common sense to realize this.
It goes without saying.


Have you ever taken a debate class? Ever participated one in person? You would know that you are NEVER supposed to assume something. It just makes an "@ss" out of "u" and "me". Common sense is not taking some of your sister's leftovers out of the fridge and eating it knowing that youre allergic to nuts and those are what she usually spices her food up with.

Say Clinton if you mean Clinton and his direct actions, say Reagen if you mean Reagen and his direct actions. Fool. Stick to the real common sense here.
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"Gen.1:25-27 (Humans were created after the other animals.) And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image. Gen.2:18-19 (Humans were created before the other animals.) And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. "


Ok let me start with this. man was created after animals. Your second verse states that Adam needed a helper and that was Eve.
The next part of that verse reiterates what God did previously to the creation of Adam and He brought them to Adam so he could name them.



"Gen.1:27 (The first man and woman were created simultaneously.) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Gen.2:18-22 (The man was created first, then the animals, then the woman from the man's rib.) And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.... And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man."



God created man first. The second part of that verse says he made man and woman it didn’t say he made female right then and there.
God knew that Adam needed a helper so he made Eve later.

Im not going to get into any more of these “contradictories” because the above should prove my point.



“You have no idea what just war is, red. Just war actually has terms that it follows to. I never said that Saddam followed the rules or was a good guy, stop reading outside the lines I coloured in.”

America was only to go so far as to take out Saddam rebuild their government and then switch the power from America to Iraq. And that is and was happening.

“Your sense of humour is shot. So is any idea of sarcasm. I never said that it was unjustifiable. QUOTE ME CORRECTLY. I said that though it may have some justification, it may not have enough.”


How is the cause for not justifiable? give me reasons then just blindly accusing the war as not fully justifiable. Saddam was killing and torturing. He threatened America not verbally but with his actions. What else is there?


“Ehm, fighting for a country is fighting to gain something. We fought for beliefs. What about the people we attacked's beliefs? "Could have". So? We "could have" dropped a nuke on Australia for the hell of it. It doesn't mean that they were going to.”

We did gain something. We gained the reassurance that the world was rid of one more evil dictator. Are you saying you are standing up for Saddam’s sadistic beliefs?
Because we sure as hell didn’t go over there to kill civilians or attack those who were being persecuted. We will thankfully never know what saddam would have done with his WMDs because of Bush’s wise decision to cut short his leadership.

“Because a lot of people screw it up. However I refuse to have people tell me, "Sit by! God will help us!" when I can fix a simple problem myself. However, there are a lot of things that one person can't fix, but I don't hear any God coming to lend a hand. And that is fine.”

Yes, and people are men. You proved my point. Man’s actions are not superior to God’s.
He does try to help if you only ask for it sincerely.
Its just the world is full of people like you that will refuse to let him lend a helping hand.


“People die in war. Yea. We know. Great revelation there. "Great America"? That's why when I leave the country I go on my NZ passport, because people from "Great America" often get killed because people believe that America is doing precisely the wrong thing.

They signed up to protect their country. My friend's brother just got back, and he is pissed that his friend was killed there because they wanted to protect their country. This war was not completely about protection.”

Talk about needed to hear the obvious. that insane koltrane said that Americans died for no reason. Even liberals wouldnt venture so far as to say that.
They died ridding the world of terrorists.
If we wouldn’t have protected them then who would?
The Iraqi citizens were too much in terror to protect themselves.
We protected more American lives from another terrorist attack. Either by Osama or, in time Saddam.
Your friend will be sad and unfortunately that’s what happens in war. But your friend’s friend died saving his people and the Iraqi people from evil people.
There should be some closure in that.
It looked as if some people like koltrane didn’t think there could be a bloodless war that’s why I said that.
How are we doing the wrong thing?
TELL ME. You seem to evade that question.

“Yea. But you didn't say that. You said Clinton. Here is my advice; Read. Read again. Write. Read again. Read again. Fix. Post.”


I thought it was obvious that the accomplishments from clinton’s presidency came from Reagen. Well I guess some people don’t have the common sense to realize this.
It goes without saying.


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Do you know anything. One of the terms of Saddams surrendering was that he would produce no WMDS. He did. When he did the UN and US repeatedly told him to destroy them.
But he didn’t. a blatant disregard for the rules.
The UN after finding out that Saddam wasn’t going to give up his WMDS, didn’t do anything but tried negotiating with him some more!
We had been negotiating with him for ten years preceding the events of the war.
We didn’t need anymore. We knew it was time for his leadership to end.


You have no idea what just war is, red. Just war actually has terms that it follows to. I never said that Saddam followed the rules or was a good guy, stop reading outside the lines I coloured in.

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First of all how the hell did you get the notion in your head that I though you were my roommate?
You don’t have to be my roommate to live under a rock.
You say that the cause for Bush’s war was unjustifiable. How was this war not justifiable?



Your sense of humour is shot. So is any idea of sarcasm. I never said that it was unjustifiable. QUOTE ME CORRECTLY. I said that though it may have some justification, it may not have enough.

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We did both.
We fought for our country’s beliefs and those who were being persecuted.
We also protected our country from a tyrannical regime that could have launched a nuclear attack on the sovereign country of America.


Ehm, fighting for a country is fighting to gain something. We fought for beliefs. What about the people we attacked's beliefs? "Could have". So? We "could have" dropped a nuke on Australia for the hell of it. It doesn't mean that they were going to.


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How is the book of Genesis not correct? And for tha t matter the Bible?
In this instance I will elaborate just for Genesis.
This book tells why the Arabs and Jews hate each other. It prophecied it and look what happened.
Their two nations have been constantly warring for thousands of years.
But the point is a European didn’t discover it. An Arab did. The point of that was to tell you that Arabs are a smart people and could make something of their lives if they chose to.


Other than the factor that is contradictory as all hell? Here. Have a list of contradictions.
[URL=http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/contra_list.html]
How can Genisis be "correct" with these in it? And it is also a RELIGIOUS source, meaning that not all of us believe in this said "God".
Anyone can do something with their lives if they want to. What kind of point is that? And their "constant warring" would not need to have a prophecy to interperate it. Common sense would deem that they would have trouble later with or without a "prophecy".

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So you are saying that killing them off is better?


Did I say that? No. I was simply stating that your point was void, because it has such a simple contradiction. Go to one of the many abortion boards to find that. I'm on some, go argue about that with me there.

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Your quote says that acts of men are better then acts of God?!
Then why the hell is the world such a hellhole?


Because a lot of people screw it up. However I refuse to have people tell me, "Sit by! God will help us!" when I can fix a simple problem myself. However, there are a lot of things that one person can't fix, but I don't hear any God coming to lend a hand. And that is fine.

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That means you think the act of Saddam using paper shredders to kill people is better than a God that offers everlasting life? You go ahead and be a sadist.


Again, you read outside the lines. Let me get this in a simple form for you. 1. I never said that Saddam is, in any way, shape or form, a good guy. 2. Who can tell if a God has an everlasting life for us? 3. Thanks, but no. Get me a good quote of where, on this board, I said that I hurt people. Thanks. Hope the bold got past your skull.

Eh, red?

Celtic said,
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who cares whether Kerry is catholic or not???????? Religions do not affect a person's way of being.

anyways, list me what has Bush done that is so great, please?


And you came back with:
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he has taken out two of the most sadistic regimes this world will ever see.
he has made America's economy strong.
the strongest it has been since Clintons presidency (which i might add were the acts of Ronald Reagen. it is sad when people credit clinton fo rthe strong economy.)
and he's not done.


Two sadistic regimes. Ok, that's a good thing. Probably not the worst ones the world will ever see, but its good that they are gone.
This is why there is "no inflation". Yep. Sure. Since Clinton's presidency. That's not a great accomplishment. He was the last guy before Shrub, which KarenKoltrane was so kind to put out for you. However, you usually need repetition.

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you could actually say since reagen's presidency.


Yea. But you didn't say that. You said Clinton. Here is my advice; Read. Read again. Write. Read again. Read again. Fix. Post.

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you are a fool.
poeple die in war!
even the Great America could not stop this.
i have said this before.
the American soldiers knew full well when they signed into the Army that there was the possibility of death and when they die in the HOnorable cause for destroying terrorism, their lives are not wasted.
and as for the Afghanis and Iraqis ive stressed this too much.
it is the insurgencies that have killed most of the civilians in stuff like car bombings, suicide bombings, bus bombings etc.
it just shows you how twisted they are.


People die in war. Yea. We know. Great revelation there. "Great America"? That's why when I leave the country I go on my NZ passport, because people from "Great America" often get killed because people believe that America is doing precisely the wrong thing.

They signed up to protect their country. My friend's brother just got back, and he is pissed that his friend was killed there because they wanted to protect their country. This war was not completely about protection.

[This message was edited by HanaNOISE on June 10, 2004 at 04:55 PM.]
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you are a fool.
poeple die in war!
even the Great America could not stop this.
i have said this before.
the American soldiers knew full well when they signed into the Army that there was the possibility of death and when they die in the HOnorable cause for destroying terrorism, their lives are not wasted.
and as for the Afghanis and Iraqis ive stressed this too much.
it is the insurgencies that have killed most of the civilians in stuff like car bombings, suicide bombings, bus bombings etc.
it just shows you how twisted they are.

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yes my entire point of dsaying that it was the strongest since clintons wsa that clinton didnt actually maek it strong it was reagen.
so technically you could actually say since reagen's presidency.

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so are you sayin gthat it is better for clinton to lie than save iraqi and afghani lives?


That's the thing that irks me. It's great to save Iraqi and Afghani lives, but not when Iragis and Afghanis, not to mention AMERICANS, die, for little to no reason, might I add.
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he has made America's economy strong.
the strongest it has been since Clintons presidency

That is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You act as if Clinton was president 100 years ao, when, in fact, he was the president before Bush, you jackass.
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Celtic you fool!

he has taken out two of the most sadistic regimes this world will ever see.
he has made America's economy strong.
the strongest it has been since Clintons presidency (which i might add were the acts of Ronald Reagen. it is sad when people credit clinton fo rthe strong economy.)
and he's not done.

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”They very well may have. But such evidence is not even able to stand up to both religious and secular standards for just war.”

Do you know anything. One of the terms of Saddams surrendering was that he would produce no WMDS. He did. When he did the UN and US repeatedly told him to destroy them.
But he didn’t. a blatant disregard for the rules.
The UN after finding out that Saddam wasn’t going to give up his WMDS, didn’t do anything but tried negotiating with him some more!
We had been negotiating with him for ten years preceding the events of the war.
We didn’t need anymore. We knew it was time for his leadership to end.


”Eh, quick reminder here, I am not your roommate, just to clear that up.
I never thought or said the world was at peace or that wars are not needed. You really need help for those little voices that you hear. They're in your mind, keep them there.”

First of all how the hell did you get the notion in your head that I though you were my roommate?
You don’t have to be my roommate to live under a rock.
You say that the cause for Bush’s war was unjustifiable. How was this war not justifiable?


”Hellooooo? Anyone there? Fighting for our country and fighting to PROTECT our country often turn out to be very different.

::gasps:: Oh, moron! Such a hurtful name! I should go cry in a corner in the 1st grade. Boo hoo. </sarcasm>”

We did both.
We fought for our country’s beliefs and those who were being persecuted.
We also protected our country from a tyrannical regime that could have launched a nuclear attack on the sovereign country of America.



”Wake up. Wake up. ::slaps:: So we take one point from Genisis, which is a religious source. Also, the rest of Genisis is exceedingly unreliable, what makes us think that any of it can be taken as fact, prophecy, or whatnot.
A European could have discovered algebra. What difference does it make where you are? There are logical people, and not so logical people everywhere.”

I don't choose to see anything. I see what is there, thank you.”
How is the book of Genesis not correct? And for tha t matter the Bible?
In this instance I will elaborate just for Genesis.
This book tells why the Arabs and Jews hate each other. It prophecied it and look what happened.
Their two nations have been constantly warring for thousands of years.
But the point is a European didn’t discover it. An Arab did. The point of that was to tell you that Arabs are a smart people and could make something of their lives if they chose to.

“So does abortion not kill English lives? Canadian lives? Venezualan? Come now, get with the program. You can also take the flip side of the major accomplishment argument. That child could have grown up to be the next Hitler. Great point.”

So you are saying that killing them off is better?

”I said that anyone can be a potential terrorist. I never went and made a blatantly ignorant statement that saddam and his regime didn't cause terror. Hint; read the entire post.
Unluckey to be alive... don't kill fetuses. Hm.

I have my sources. I had enough to do a bloody term paper on the war, though I refuse to kill a tree to write one. ::rolls eyes::

"Acts of men are better than acts of god!" may be a saying I know and love, but I worship no person. Man is falliable. Worship is too good for any one human.”

Your quote says that acts of men are better then acts of God?!
Then why the hell is the world such a hellhole?

That means you think the act of Saddam using paper shredders to kill people is better than a God that offers everlasting life? You go ahead and be a sadist.

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who cares whether Kerry is catholic or not???????? Religions do not affect a person's way of being.

anyways, list me what has Bush done that is so great, please?
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Hate to break it to you, but the Quote button is there for a reason. A very good reason actually. Other than the factor that writing he said, she said is an ineffective way to earn respect.


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if you havent heard, they have found evidence of serin gas (or however you spell it in Iraq).
and like i said in one my earliest posts. chemical adn biological weapons can be dumped into the soild with out ever having rthe chance to be found. nuclear weapons could have been shipped to syria after the threat of the intial liberation of iraq.


They very well may have. But such evidence is not even able to stand up to both religious and secular standards for just war.

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you live under a rock if you believe for one second that this world is at peace and that wars are not needed.


Eh, quick reminder here, I am not your roommate, just to clear that up.
I never thought or said the world was at peace or that wars are not needed. You really need help for those little voices that you hear. They're in your mind, keep them there.

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they are fighting for our country.


Hellooooo? Anyone there? Fighting for our country and fighting to PROTECT our country often turn out to be very different.

::gasps:: Oh, moron! Such a hurtful name! I should go cry in a corner in the 1st grade. Boo hoo. </sarcasm>

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you may not believe Genesis but look at how truthful that passage was! arabs are among the most hated group of people in the world.
the arabs hate everyone that isnt practicing their religion


Wake up. Wake up. ::slaps:: So we take one point from Genisis, which is a religious source. Also, the rest of Genisis is exceedingly unreliable, what makes us think that any of it can be taken as fact, prophecy, or whatnot.

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i was proving the point that arabs could do somthing if they would just tstop and listen to sense.
it has nothing to abortion. but it was a valid point whether you choose to see it or not.



A European could have discovered algebra. What difference does it make where you are? There are logical people, and not so logical people everywhere.

I don't choose to see anything. I see what is there, thank you.

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abortion kills american lives! lives that could have found the cure to some types of cancer or some other major accomplishment.


So does abortion not kill English lives? Canadian lives? Venezualan? Come now, get with the program. You can also take the flip side of the major accomplishment argument. That child could have grown up to be the next Hitler. Great point.

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are you saying that saddam and his regime did not cause terror?!
they killed thousands of people and kept those who were unlucky enough to stay alive during his terror regime in the constant fear of being imprisoned or an excrutiating death.
we do have evil people over here but to say that saddam and his regime were not terrorists is just either lack of intelligence or your secret worship of the tyrant.


I said that anyone can be a potential terrorist. I never went and made a blatantly ignorant statement that saddam and his regime didn't cause terror. Hint; read the entire post.
Unluckey to be alive... don't kill fetuses. Hm.

I have my sources. I had enough to do a bloody term paper on the war, though I refuse to kill a tree to write one. ::rolls eyes::

"Acts of men are better than acts of god!" may be a saying I know and love, but I worship no person. Man is falliable. Worship is too good for any one human.

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FeiJiao said,

I'm saying that when Clinton lied, was anyone other that he, and the direct people involved, harmed? Saying that there were weapons of mass destruction, though we knew for a fact that there were none, harms people. It was a lie. People died. I'm not saying what Clinton did was right, but there was no body bag being dragged away afterward.

redrepublican said,

if you havent heard, they have found evidence of serin gas (or however you spell it in Iraq).
and like i said in one my earliest posts. chemical adn biological weapons can be dumped into the soild with out ever having rthe chance to be found. nuclear weapons could have been shipped to syria after the threat of the intial liberation of iraq.
you live under a rock if you believe for one second that this world is at peace and that wars are not needed.
when evil tyrants oppress their people they need to be taken out.
and its not like we havent negotiatied with them!
ten years since the first gulf war's worth of negotiating.
clinton is alot like carter. he believed that nothing was wrong that everything was fine.

when really tyrants killed thousands of innocent civilians. carter believed that america in teh 70's was full of patriots and a strong country when really we were a weak, crippled nation. but then reagen came and im not even going to start to get into that.

FeiJiao said,

You missed the point completely. Like, not a near miss either. They signed up for the military believing that they would be fighting to protect their country, NOT to do some halfass job about purchasing oil with death.

redrepublican sadi,

they are fighting for our country. its just som morons like you that dont like to dig deep and find out what the real problem is.
they fought to take out terrorist regimes that would cause more events like 911.
events that would have killed thousands of more american lives.
we are not taking oil from iraq.
ive said enough about this in other posts i will not waste the space of YouthNOISE.

FeiJiao sadi,

Like we all believe Genisis or something.

redrepublican sadi,

you may not believe Genesis but look at how truthful that passage was! arabs are among the most hated group of people in the world.
the arabs hate everyone that isnt practicing their religion

FeiJiao said,

Algebra has a direct connection to abortion and the fetus/baby argument? ::flips through book:: Huh.

redrepublican said,

i was proving the point that arabs could do somthing if they would just tstop and listen to sense.
it has nothing to abortion. but it was a valid point whether you choose to see it or not.

abortion kills american lives! lives that could have found the cure to some types of cancer or some other major accomplishment.

FeiJiao said

Terrorists are those who cause terror. The serial rapists in my sch