U.S. Intelligence is now stating that the world’s economic crisis is now the United States' top "near-term security concern." Do you think the recession that’s about to be a depression is already leading us to further war? It happened in the 1930’s. Will it happen again?

It is very likely that the economic crisis will lead to more global. Personally I have lost a bit of faith in Obama. I read in the Metro that he was praising troops so that he could keep ahead in the polls plus now they are sending out more troops to Afghanistan not a smart move.

yes i think it is how many collide and defend with ths chrisis

I think it depends on how many people want to paricipate in the war. Sure, more positions will be opened (yay more jobs) but if no one wants to fill them it kind of defeats the whole purpose.

I don't believe you can say that war is either good or bad for the economy. If it is a short war that we flat out win then generally it will help us, but if it is a war with no monetary gains that drags on and on it will just be another thing that uses up our money.

lol someguy it's totally your parents fault that the US economy is about to crash.

I dont see why you had to qoute my post since it doesnt have much to do with your post. Yes i know about the sub-prime and all the other factors thats why i said "its not due to the expenses of the US army solely".

I cant be bothered to go find the evidence but i'll probably get to it sometime. It is a known fact that the US economy is in better shape during a war.

...dont tell me you're referring to my parents.

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Im not debating the fact whether the US should send more troops or not. Im just stating the fact that if u look at the US economy, its mostly best in times of war. Im not talking about the size of the debt, or the expenses on the government. Im talking about the shape the economy is in. And yes for the reasons you stated. During times of war, demand on weaponary factories and naval factories (im not sure if thats the correct terminology) is much higher, provideing more jobs, and etc.

As for this economic crisis, its not due to the expenses of the US army solely. That is just a small part of it, if any.

But like i said im just stating the facts and not debating US foreign policy. Which, im sure you know by now, I believe is total bullshit.

I cant swallow this. Economic Crisis does not lead to war, War doesn't really lead to a better economy... just faster inflation and a ton of deficit spending that we all get to deal with in the future.

If you want to look at the status quo we have two money sucking wars, a handful of banks that asked for a bailout with no strings attached (money is gone by the way... they just wanted to prove they could sucker poor George one last time before they sent him back to Texas) The indescribably bad housing market, with homes being foreclosed by banks and being re-sold for pennies on the dollar. This is bad news... unemployment is sky high. All of this started because of the sub-prime mortgage crisis. People like your parents that bought a house in the last 5 years while it was all the rage... this is their fault. Now the government has to pick up all that toxic debt. Banks are re-aligning because they were using insurance scams to cover for potentially lost capital.insurance companies don't have that kind of overhead, and boom, lots of money down the toilet. There is other parts of this recession too, but no it wont start a physical war... China will just end up cornering the market on mandatory natural resources and make us a protectorate.

Im not debating the fact whether the US should send more troops or not. Im just stating the fact that if u look at the US economy, its mostly best in times of war. Im not talking about the size of the debt, or the expenses on the government. Im talking about the shape the economy is in. And yes for the reasons you stated. During times of war, demand on weaponary factories and naval factories (im not sure if thats the correct terminology) is much higher, provideing more jobs, and etc.

As for this economic crisis, its not due to the expenses of the US army solely. That is just a small part of it, if any.

But like i said im just stating the facts and not debating US foreign policy. Which, im sure you know by now, I believe is total bullshit.

lol, most wars aren't good for the economy of a developed nation like the us.

during the great depression we needed something like a war in order to create jobs for the umemployed (25% unemployment back then, crazy). By having to manufacture so many different weapons the us created manufacturing jobs for the average joe and weapons research jobs for those who attended college. plus so many people went to war that women began working semi-decent careers. So yes wwII was to the benefit of our country as were the wars/conflicts in which we won land like the philipines and hawaii, etc.

today however we don't need to expand our territories nor do we need to save the world from someone ethnic cleansing 12 million people. In recent times we have this habit of fighting wars seemingly for the sake of war itself. Vietnam brought nothing, the korean war was just our way of trying to show up russia and communism and desert storm and the current war in iraq are just examples of the US being a bully and a world tyrant.

Our foreign policy is pathetic. basically we say "it's our way or we'll blow you up."

george bush senior actually implemented a policy that states "the us will do everything it can to remain the only super-power." in a way I can see why this is important because if there were say 3 super powers it would be a disaster if we went to war with each other (and i mean a nuclear disaster). The problem with this is to what extent should we keep other countries from rising to power and we have to keep in mind that our poor foreign policy is the reason why many countries hate us. 9/11 should be evidence enough but who knows how badly the countries we bully will retaliate in the future?

But you got to keep in mind that war is good for the economy. The reason the US economy healed so fruitfully during the 1930-40s was because of WW2. If you look at the US economy through out history, you will find that it was at its best states during periods of war. Ofcourse all that can be proven wrong just by looking at the last 8 yeasrs, but this economic crisis was not brought on from war expenses alone.

No, I don't think it will happen, but what I do think is a greater concern are his admins policies in Afghanistan and the increase in troops. I think our economic issues coupled with the billions upon billions spent on wars with the result of "what was that for" is a lesson unto itself on our need to back out of these types of unnecessary expenditures of money for , again, what cost.

I don't think so. For one thing, there are no countries in quite the same position as Germany was in the 1930s (still mad about losing a war two decades earlier, ruled by a power-hungry chancellor/dictator, suffering under sanctions put on it by other nations, etc.).

The world went to war in the 1930s because of the aggression of Germany, not because of the financial crisis. While Germany probably wouldn't have gone to war had it been prosperous, it also wouldn't have gone to war if it had been ruled by a more moderate person.

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no. Obama won't let it happen.

I must agree, Mr Obama is quite the negotiator.

no. Obama won't let it happen.