Let's not forget the Communist atrocities while debating terrorism.

Governments have caused more death, misery and destruction than American soldiers.

Dictators and the lack of property rights have given us African genocide and Fidel Castro.


People seem to want to blame American bankers for almost everything, which is okay because they're at fault too, but please, don't forget about the Hitlers, the Stalins and the other forms of collectivist governments who have slaughtered, butchered and destroyed their own people.

That is why capitalism and America's republic is so great. We respect rights of the individual, unlike communists and other collectivists.

Entire nations don't collect.

Entire nations get totalitarian governments.

Governments make things up.

Things like collectivism.

Enough.

Anyone who believes for one second that America is a freedom-filled country are delusional.

I have had it with those people who say "our troops are in Iraq fighting for our freedoms."

VOMIT

That's the sickest form of brainwashing I've ever heard.

The fact of the matter is, our country has been rocked and infiltrated by Communists and Global Government sympathizers for years, starting with the implementation of the Federal Reserve.

VeganQueen, what in the world are you talking about? Stop this shoot-the-messenger crap, will ya? Take responsibility for your views, but leave out the demonization ploy.

As much as you'd love to label me a KKK-supporting racist, I don't think it'd be in your best interest to even comment any further, if all you're going to do is rehash my previous politically incorrect statements on other threads...

Stick to the subject, which is that collectivism has brought about more destruction and chaos than any individual rights-supporting government ever has.

Capitalism and property rights go hand-in-hand, and African nations - heck, every nation other than America circa 19th century - didn't have them, nor do they respect them.

Get off your Joey-bashing for once and rail against the collectivism that I have pointed out.

The fact remains that Communism and Socialism are one of the banes of humanity.

Communism as a government is evil. I suppose it would be a good thing if we all shared and gave to the poor, but it's wrong to steal money from those who deserve it, to those who do nothing. Man has a right to property, and it is evil and immoral to take that from someone.

since when have you given a rat's a$$ about African people? I bet your fingers started wobbling uncontrollably when you typed that sentence. Lets be real, you only brought that up to make your anti-communist rhetoric sound more credible. Please don't try front, i see right thru u son.

America is not a communist-free, pure-capitalist system. Have you looked at Welfare? Or even in elementary schools, where the children are forced to work together with each person, regardless of effort, receiving the same grade?

It's the "Capitalistic Politics" promoting this, as well. So don't try to paint America as a purely capitalist, free nation.

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One nation, under survelience.

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Can you say Patriot Act?

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We respect rights of the individual

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*cough* Patriot Act *cough*

i never thought i'd say this, but joey dauben is actually right in this matter, as well as paintbucket.

the stalins, lenins, and other famous "communist" leaders contributed to the deaths of millions. it was a terrible thing to do, and since the second world war, precautions have been set so that things like soviets killing soviets will never happen again.

but paintbucket is right in this matter as well as joey; those leaders in the past modified communism to better fit their needs; in soviet russia it wasn't one man, one paycheck. do you really think you could make that work for 600,000 people? it would falter immediately. so their founding fathers modified it to better fit the country's need. the same is true with cuba, and iraq.

hitler's germany was supprisingly better off than it ever was before then. though his form of government was closer to a modification of socialism and capitalism, he managed to yank them out of their own great depression, and also raising te country's morale. yet he did do this while systematically killing off thousands of germany's own people, but it's economic progress we're talking about here. the holocaust is a different issue.

all of these governments were never truly communist, or socialist. those forms of government have never really been expressed in their true form because the countries are so big. imagine one dictator for all of the US. it would never work. things would take way too long to get done. America isn't even a perfect democracy; the electoral college has prven that. democracy at it's purist is "one man, one vote." but the founding fathers probably just thought that we were too dumb to make our own choices, so elected officials made the choices.

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Let's not forget the Communist atrocities while debating terrorism.

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The communists aren't true commies. They twist communism, which is a very good philosophoical view. But your points on American banking are true.