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STOP RIGHT THERE! GRAMMAR POLICE!

Since Speed was not able to understand the following:

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Sorry, but these post warrant not response.

I will explain, I meant to say "no response". I will try to avoid this in the future since you are incapable of figuring out what something means when it is obvious.

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Cute but not a serious response.

Except that is what most of you christian neocon garbage heaps really believe; which makes you someone who's cute but not worth being taken seriously.

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but these post warrant not response.

STOP RIGHT THERE! GRAMMAR POLICE!

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Speed are to immature, left wing, and idiotic to answer me. I am sorry you two are incapable of forming an actual answer. I think that it is probably because you agree with me, but don't want to say so. That's fine. I'll just assume that.

Ok, I'll give you an actual answer; consider this is coming from a political science student so if there are concepts you're unable to grasp you just have to ask and I'll translate them to chimpanzee. Here goes:

Sudan has large enough oil reserves to interest the US, especially because china has greatly expanded it's sphere of influence in northern africa through deals with Nigeria, and friendly business relations with other nations including Sudan.
Since african oil reserves are largely untapped due to underdeveloped infrastructure the US is obliged to plan ahead in case a middle eastern crisis where to cut off the oil supply from the Saudis, and in the future from Iraq.

Through prioritary exploitation rights to african oil fields the US also aims to undercut China's amazing economic growth, as the neocon worldview and fullfilment of their plans relies on the existence of "a lone superpower". Neocon planners in washington know that if China is given enough space and time it will end up rivaling the US, and will act as a counter balance in global geopolitics, an eventuality which is undesirable because it would jeopardize america's ability to act however is best for it's own economic wellbeing.

With this in mind the neocon think tanks and lobbyists need a good excuse to convince the population that a military intervention in Sudan is necessary and, luckily enough, Darfur happened(not to mention the civil war which lasted untill 2005, and is still smoldering).

Statistical studies have proven that most americans aren't intent on going to war unless they view the cause as worth while, and when questioned on this most americans don't feel that oil reserves are a good enough reason to justify the killing that war implies.
Thus, the people in charge of running news story's on media outlets that are ideologically aligned with the neocon establishment are trying to build a humanitarian case to convince the population of the need of an intervention; when in reality the only reason the US has any interest in Sudan is because of oil and the Chinese-North Africa relations.

That pretty much sums up everything there is to know about our foreign policy regarding Sudan, take your time to go over it and you'll see it makes sense. You should also consider being open about these things and admiting that the only reason we should go there is oil, you'd get a lot more respect than you gather with the whole bullshit-humanitarian act.

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That's begging the question. How would we stop the killing?

Do you honestly believe that a massive US presence in the Sudan, would diminish the genocide? it worked in Kosovo.

Once again, Canvas' posts are off topic and illogical. Sorry, but these post warrant not response. Please stay on topic.

So you agree with me and have no new arguments on this board? Fair enough.

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
Still no serious reply. And I don't criticize the music you listen to.

This is as serious as I can take you. I don't criticise your music either; I criticize you.

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Originally posted by Canvas:

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
I guess Canvas and Speed are to immature, left wing, and idiotic to answer me. I am sorry you two are incapable of forming an actual answer. I think that it is probably because you agree with me, but don't want to say so. That's fine. I'll just assume that.

You know, insulting people won't get you anywhere. It's the stupid thing to do, because you lose the respect of others and therefore your opinions. Considering the ONLY thing you listen to is the American National Anthem, and you listen to it 20-25 times a day (your words), says much about how open-minded you're about the US.

I love you, America. Make love to me.

Still no serious reply. And I don't criticize the music you listen to.

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
I guess Canvas and Speed are to immature, left wing, and idiotic to answer me. I am sorry you two are incapable of forming an actual answer. I think that it is probably because you agree with me, but don't want to say so. That's fine. I'll just assume that.

You know, insulting people won't get you anywhere. It's the stupid thing to do, because you lose the respect of others and therefore your opinions. Considering the ONLY thing you listen to is the American National Anthem, and you listen to it 20-25 times a day (your words), says much about how open-minded you're about the US.

I love you, America. Make love to me.

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Bushsupporter:
If our military is stopping the killing, then the killing would be stopped.

That's begging the question. How would we stop the killing?

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Bah, well I wouldn't use violence to stop violence - you don't fight fire with fire. I guess I'd start off by being reasonable. I remember reading that the Bush Administration didn't like that there was a small area where Islamic Law, or Sharia, took over, and they helped the war that caused its downfall, saying it was linked to Al-Qaeda. But I could be mistaken, it's been a while. I wonder if they're going to cite that as a reason.

Cute but not a serious response.

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Do you know this for a fact? The UN and AU haven't had any luck so far. Why would our presence make any difference?

If our military is stopping the killing, then the killing would be stopped. Of course invading the Sudan would stop the killing. Just like the Balkans (Clinton by the way).

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Because we're american an we're special. It's our destiny to use our amazing military might to teach the world how to live according to our democratic standards, which are obviously inherently perfect and universal, and should be followed by every country wether they like it or not.

Cute but not a serious response.

I guess Canvas and Speed are to immature, left wing, and idiotic to answer me. I am sorry you two are incapable of forming an actual answer. I think that it is probably because you agree with me, but don't want to say so. That's fine. I'll just assume that.

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Why would our presence make any difference?

Because we're american an we're special. It's our destiny to use our amazing military might to teach the world how to live according to our democratic standards, which are obviously inherently perfect and universal, and should be followed by every country wether they like it or not.

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Bushsupporter:
Going there is the only thing that will stop the killing.

Do you know this for a fact? The UN and AU haven't had any luck so far. Why would our presence make any difference?

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
Well, I beleive that there are several reasons to go to the Sudan (murder, rape, starvation, genocide, etc.) Going there is the only thing that will stop the killing. What would you have us do, canvas, to stop the killing. Nothing else works except physical intervention.

Bah, well I wouldn't use violence to stop violence - you don't fight fire with fire. I guess I'd start off by being reasonable. I remember reading that the Bush Administration didn't like that there was a small area where Islamic Law, or Sharia, took over, and they helped the war that caused its downfall, saying it was linked to Al-Qaeda. But I could be mistaken, it's been a while. I wonder if they're going to cite that as a reason.

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What are the reasons to go to Sudan?

Well, I beleive that there are several reasons to go to the Sudan (murder, rape, starvation, genocide, etc.) Going there is the only thing that will stop the killing. What would you have us do, canvas, to stop the killing. Nothing else works except physical intervention.

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I guess it's just the three of us again

Yeah, apparently we are the only three people on youthNOISE.

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What are the reasons to go to Sudan?

Who knows? Let's here their plans.

I guess it's just the three of us again lol. This is becoming some sort of trend.

Okay let's be reasonable about this.

What are the reasons to go to Sudan?

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For all of you morons

That's mature.

We'd go to the Sudan, all these crazy anti-Iraqi war people will end up saying the same things about the Sudan they are saying about Iraq.