I recently have been hearing of an influx of Iraqis who left their country, many due to saddam, but now are returning to fight for Iraq. 6,000 have already come and more are coming. I wonder how do you "liberate" a population that hates and fights you. How many American lives. How many Iraqi lives. These people hate Saddam. But they hate the US more. These people are not part of Saddams regime. They are ordinary iraqi citizens who are rising to fight for what they believe is right. What can we do short of leveling civilian homes like Isaraelis in the occupied territories. This war is not as simple as the Bush administration would like us to believe. Centuries of Western involvement, religious misuerstandings, and violence have created a group who believe they must stand and fight America. These people are not radicals, but their emotions are a result of many different complicated things. Coming in and killing thousands and placing an pro-american government and giving a few billion in aid will not remedy the situation. We have to say maybe they hate America because we did something like establish brutal dictatorships or bomb a medicine factory. Bombing Iraq, Afganistan, and who ever else back to the 6th century will only bring terror to our coutry. War=terrorism. They lead to each other. Each is in a relationship with another. 1Terror forces conflict, and 2terror is a result of conflict. Case in point US adn Afghanistan 2Israel and PAlestein. A deadly stale mate where nothing, but death and hate thrive like in the occupied territories will help nothing. War will accompliush NOTHING. How many suicied bombers at checkpoints and military bases? When will we decide it is no longer worth American lives. I assure u when that is many many more iraqi cvilians will be dead and hate for America will be greater than before. In vietnam 50,000 americans died,but 4 million Vietnamese died. War=terrorism

Emperor Bush ...if I may.


Of course, this will "offend" and "outrage" many of the people on YouthNOISE, but then again, since when did I care about people's feelings being hurt when presenting the facts?


Anyway:

God instructed - according to a MAJORITY of Old Testament battles - to completely wipe away the pagan, idol-worshipping filth that plagued the Holy Land.

Remember Noah's flood? The civilization at that time, minus Noah's family and many animals, was completely wiped out because God kept telling the people to shape up.

But He also promised never to do it again -- think about it; if God hadn't promised Noah no more floods, do you think we would be having this debate?

(note: I can guarantee you that there wouldn't be any Jewish "gays" and "lesbians." Two cities: Sodom, Gomorrah)

So, after praying about what I had originally said, and reading a few articles, I've come to the conclusion that I'm not aligned with "Hitler" or the "Fourth Reich" as some fools have said I was.

And, no, I'm not some blood-thirsty "racist" as others have claimed me to be.

There is no hope whatsoever right now for those young Iraqis to ever see the salvation, love and True peace of Jesus Christ if they're supporting a demonic/pagan dictator like Saddam Hussein.

When a carpool of Iraqi civilians - well, heck, they can be from any country, really - pulls up to a U.S. military checkpoint and is instructed to stop - and doesn't...then I support the use of military force against them.

You people are completely being brainwashed by the politically correct war-talkers; Vietnam can closely parallel this war in many regards, and one of them is the "Rules of Engagement."

Our troops are risking their lives and Coalition lives because they're being pressured day after day after day after day after day on the "don't hurt innocent civilians" mantra.

Sure, just going around shooting innocent kids isn't right either, but it's necessary if the kids are strapped with grenades and AK-47s.

And don't be like Dante and try to talk-up a Muslim "American" who rolled three grenades into a sleeping camp, then waited until the soldiers ran out before shooting them with a machine gun.

The guy is a traitor; and anybody who is against the way our American soldiers are fighting this war - or any war, for that matter, is a traitor.

See, Vietnam was a war that was purposely set up to make the U.S. lose; the Rules of Engagement made matters even worse, and unfortunately, those idiotic people who cussed, ridiculed and blamed our boys back then had children -- and in turn, had those children espouse the same Politically Correct garbage about fighting wars as I'm debating about now.


If you do not have first-hand experience in fighting a war -- I don't, but I'm also not going against our soldiers - shut the hell up.

welllllllll..................... you are kind of correct.

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I recently have been hearing of an influx of Iraqis who left their country, many due to saddam, but now are returning to fight for Iraq. 6,000 have already come and more are coming.

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These werent your everyday citizens, they are people who were working for saddam in other areas. Also, they werent allowed in, they are stuck in Jordan.

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I wonder how do you "liberate" a population that hates and fights you

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The majority do not hate americans.

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These people are not radicals, but their emotions are a result of many different complicated things.

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Not radicals? Lets see, suicide bombings, civilian shields, weapons in hospitals.

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In vietnam 50,000 americans died,but 4 million Vietnamese died. War=terrorism

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Gee, theres an irelivent fact. Not to mention our casualties arent likely to get above 1,000 in this war.

i agree with you
a war cause more hatred.it's obvious that it's never been as easy as bush thought.well forget about his thoughts

i'm still not for this war but since it's started,since so many iraqis are going back and fight against your troops sent by bush,since they won't stop it like this,since it's getting bloody recently,since you used those weapons which did great harm during the gulf war,just finish it quickly...but if bush can't,if he still needs more freaky time,he's hated and lost.