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Registered: January 16, 2003
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quote: they can speak whatever the heck they want as long as they can speak english too.
What the hell is your problem? My mother can't speak any English and she's been here since I was in 4th grade. She's tried to learn, but it just wont stick. Plus, between working all the time and taking care of us she really didn't have much time to try and learn it. If you haven't been in our shoes I suggest that you don't judge.
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13956
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quote: comfortable speaking in their native language
they can speak whatever the heck they want as long as they can speak english too. My gram still speaks german but she speaks perfect english as well. quote: u think itz not hard to get across the border?
I don't care, personally ones caught immigrating illegally should be tossesd back at the southern mexican border. I am highly pro-immigration, I'm only a 2nd generation american I think it should be way easier to get here but if you come here illegally then your violating our laws, it means you don't respect us. Would you let a man in your house if he violated your rules and disrespected you? quote: and m,exicans are VERY proud of their heritage and still want to remain in mexico
So change your goverment, the mexican people have fought several revolutions before do so again if it's the goverment. As you pointed out y'all come here and wokr your tails off, why not stay in your home land and better it. Hell my ancestors didn't have that option, on one side the country was torn apart by war, on the other we were under the foot of an oppressive regime and literally had no food. Mexico is way better off then that, and you supposedly have a democracy too. an article some of you lot may find intresting: http://www.youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=5982
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: July 12, 2007
Posts: 81
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quote: They bring in their language and culture and all that crap, mainly because they're too damn lazy to learn ours. Want to know why? Because a majority are coming in illegaly!
Mexicans wanting to keep their culture and language has nothing to do with being an illegal. So what if people feel proud of their culture or comfortable speaking in their native language? You're so ignorant you make me laugh.
�Ancient lovers believed a kiss would literally unite their souls, because the spirit was said to be carried in one's breath.� - Eve Glicksman
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Registered: April 03, 2006
Posts: 49
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I personly find absolutley NOTHING wrong with our current situation They Feed their Famlies Buisnesses Dont spend as much money and jobs LAZY american dont really want are filled because us So Called LAZY mexicans WORK u think itz not hard to get across the border? mexicos gocernment DOES NOT take care of thier citezens and America's(iloveamericabytheway it is the greatest country EVER) makes it really hard to become a citzen and m,exicans are VERY proud of their heritage and still want to remain in mexico P.S Whats Wrong with Brining in OUR Culture i mean u dont share any cullture with UR ancestors?(who were in fact imagrints tyoo
being an individual. It's like you have to sift through the darkness to find your place and be that individual you want to be your entire life
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Registered: January 15, 2003
Posts: 3708
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by the way they are mexican it i get scaried sometimes. What shall I do ?
Finish 2nd grade, then we'll talk.
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Registered: July 06, 2007
Posts: 5
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why does all the boys or older guys seeems to look at me when i walk on by ?
by the way they are mexican it i get scaried sometimes. What shall I do ?
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Registered: July 07, 2003
Posts: 738
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Maybe you didn't realize I said that to poke fun at pheonix's horrible typing.
Of course I did, but like I said, doing it twice was distasteful. |
Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6956
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"No one really knows where or when the custom started -- and many of us don't care! Some people trace it to the Romans, whose pagan orgies were held during the spring season.
The French in New Orleans were having private masked balls and parties in 1718. When the Spanish government took over, parties and street dancing were banned. It wasn't until 1827, when Americans were in power, that the right to party in mask was restored --I love America! During the 1850's, the city's elite and their elegant Mardi Gras parties were quite a contrast to the wild partying and near-rioting in the streets. It was soon clear that all celebrations were in danger of facing another ban.
In 1857, a group of men formed a secret society called the Mystick Krewe of Comus. They knew that Mardi Gras could be preserved with planning, organization, and management of the celebrations. Comus planned the first parade around a theme and used flambeauxs to light the procession. The Krewe of Rex formed in 1872 -- principally to entertain the visiting Grand Duke Alexis Romanoff of Russia."
"Mardi Gras came to New Orleans through its French heritage in 1699. Early explorers celebrated this French Holiday on the banks of the Mississippi River. Throughout the years, Orleanians have added to the celebration by establishing krewes (organizations) which host parades and balls. Carnival quickly became an exciting holiday for both children and adults.
Mardi Gras means "Fat Tuesday" and of course is celebrated on that day of the week. The date can fall between February 3 and March 9 depending on the Lunar calendar, used by the Catholic Church to determine the date of Easter. Mardi Gras is always 47 days before Easter Sunday."
It's a French-American holiday, but if the French hadn't come to the US, we wouldn't have it. Like Cinco de Mayo. You don't have to celebrate it, but those who want to can.
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Registered: July 31, 2003
Posts: 214
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Maybe you didn't realize I said that to poke fun at pheonix's horrible typing. |
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I'm all for immigration and diversity, but my parents' tax money should not be going to help some illegal get health care benefits and retirement checks.
The kids of illegals, as in the U.S. Constitution, are allowed to obtain that stuff because they were born here (if in fact they were), but that's the exception.
Let the Mexicanos come. I like the girls anyway.
But if they want services, they're gonna have to become a citizen and pay taxes like the rest of us.
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Registered: July 07, 2003
Posts: 738
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"wat"
Doing that twice is distasteful. quote:
Ever writing it.
Wow, that made no sense. quote:
There is an internal war
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Registered: July 31, 2003
Posts: 214
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Mardi Gras (meaning "Fat Tuesday" in French) was originated in the USA by the French founders of Mobile, Alabama and is now celebrated mostly along the Gulf Coast from Northwest Florida to East Texas. It is known for its street parades, large formal balls and outlandish costumes. The largest celebration takes place in New Orleans, Louisiana on the Tuesday before Ash Wednesday every year.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6956
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Americans celebrate Mardi Gras. Are you going to go complain about the French? People celebrate MG to get drunk, as well.
Holidays have nothing to do with illegal immigration.
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Registered: July 31, 2003
Posts: 214
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Well, now Cinco de Mayo makes even less sense as to why it's so largly celebrated. But, I think we can sum it up with my friend's quote, "... its just an excuse to get drunk." I only oppose its large public display. It's even in the media as something to celebrate, even if you aren't Mexican! Besides, the French came back to defeat and gain control over Mexico until the pressure of the US forced them to release their hold on Mexico.
Besides, one major charactristic of a Nation is to have all its citizens know one common language, for communication purposes.
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Registered: July 03, 2003
Posts: 1741
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Maybe they're not FORCING it. But I see it all over the place in May and it makes me sick. I don't care about Mexico's independence. Why not have celebrations of EVERY countries independence? Sure, you can celebrate it personally, but they're making it too public.
Cinco de Mayo is not Mexico's Independence Day (that's September 16th). It's a celebration of Mexico's successful resistance to the French invasion in 1862. They're just celebrating something commendable that their ancestors did, and I think they should be allowed to do that in private or in public. What's wrong with making it a public celebration? They're not forcing anyone to participate. quote:
By our's, I mean American. The language and government for example. You can't say they respect our government if they enter the country illgeally. Muffin quoted that I said "I don't mean leave their culture behind completely." Notice "wat" I said?
I see an awful lot of Mexicans running around speaking Spanish all the time. Ever writing it.
I agree that entering our country illegally is paying serious disrespect, not only to our government, but to our citizens. However, if you don't believe legals should have to give up their culture completely, why are you so opposed to public celebrations and upholding their language? As the information I posted said, Mexican-Americans and other immigrants are, for the most part, doing what they can to learn the English language. But that shouldn't mean giving up their native tongues! And I've thought of one additional benefit to learning the Spanish language. By becoming proficient in Spanish you would also be able to volunteer time at ESL classes for those immigrants who wish to become better English speakers. Become a part of the solution, you see? |
Registered: July 24, 2003
Posts: 58
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wat's so sickening about mexican's celebrating cinco de mayo?
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Registered: July 31, 2003
Posts: 214
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What about Cinco de Mayo? You think they're "forcing" it on other Americans? How so?
Maybe they're not FORCING it. But I see it all over the place in May and it makes me sick. I don't care about Mexico's independence. Why not have celebrations of EVERY countries independence? Sure, you can celebrate it personally, but they're making it too public. By our's, I mean American. The language and government for example. You can't say they respect our government if they enter the country illgeally. Muffin quoted that I said "I don't mean leave their culture behind completely." Notice "wat" I said? I see an awful lot of Mexicans running around speaking Spanish all the time. Ever writing it. But yes, the whole idea of this is Illegal Immigration, however Mexicans ARE the biggest problem. |
Registered: July 03, 2003
Posts: 1741
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Why should we have to learn a foreign to perform everyday tasks? In our own country?! http://www.ncusd203.org/north/depts/foreignlang/Benefits.htmlquote:
Forgot to mention. I don't mean leave their culture behind completely, but they try to pretty much force some beliefs they have. "Cinco de Mayo."
What about Cinco de Mayo? You think they're "forcing" it on other Americans? How so? quote:
And the problem with the language is that they don't bother to learn English and it puts the problem on the US citizens, the real ones.
Here's something you might find interesting. http://w3fp.arizona.edu/masrc/pubs/arv2n15.htmIllegal immigration is the problem here, not Mexicans or their culture. I do commend you, though, for admitting that your opinion is a bit stereotypical. Your bluntness is admirable.  |
Registered: July 24, 2003
Posts: 58
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quote: They bring in their language and culture and all that crap, mainly because they're too damn lazy to learn ours.:quote
that basically implied that you want all mexicans to learn 'our's' wat's that supposed to mean? wat's wrong with retaining the culture they grew up with and are most comfortable with?! and sure, mexico's not THAT poor but some people in mexico are. dirt poor. wat's wrong with them wanting to have a better life?
i rephrase my previous statement, 'get a better life than being a racist pig, you moron!'
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Registered: July 31, 2003
Posts: 214
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Hmmm, no one answered my question. It was a open topic for all. Futility101, go back and look at statistics. DrStrangelove pointed them out. And if Mexico's not so poor, then why leave? Products there are cheaper than here. I never said my culture was better. I said why do they leave a country just to bring everything they were trying to get away from? "Wat" ever made you think I implied that? Why can't you be like Amaris and see the point I'm making? quote:
Why is this in War and Terrorism anyway?
"There is an internal war against the rising minority of Mexicans and it needs to be stopped NOW!" Try reading before you post. |
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