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<JoeyDauben>
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We're witnessing this phony 9-11 Commission play us like a bunch of fools.

In reality, this is our generation's version of the Warren Commission.

Sept. 11 was our generation's Pearl Harbor. FDR had communications (these were later released via Public Info) that Japan was going to attack.

In 1993, the FBI was caught on tape giving the orders to the Iraqi terrorists to plant a bomb at the WTC column(s). This was even in the New York Times.


Oklahoma City was a government-sponsored terrorist act. Cells of Iraqi Republican Guard terrorists were there, in sight and on camera (FBI has refused to release 22 tapes showing this).

So was there a link between 9-11 and Iraq? Yes, yes there was. Who is al-Qaeda?

Why, it's the CIA, ATF and FBI ...who else would it be? Our "terrorist" attacks are perpetuated to bring about a new world order. Anyone with any independent thinking skills of their own would see this. Remove the scales from your eyes, all of you...

When you do, the truth will set you free.

http://www.infowars.com
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Registered: November 30, 2003
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America got a wakeup call saying "Hi! We don't like you! So we kill you!" That's all.

The Boro Mullisha Commandant
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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Everyone can calm down.

Joey has provided no proof for his arguement once again. Thus our work is done here and we can move on.

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wtf for once i agree with you. Eek
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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THANK YOU!!!! ITS ABOUT TIME I SEE SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES SOMETHING ELSE THAN WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO!!!! I admire your courage on having your thoughts, I guess thats a rarity around here. Maybe people will open up and think for them selves, thanks again.


I find it funny how some people think the only definition of "indivdual thought" is that which is different than what the maintstream thinks. Ever think that we have thought for ourselves and decided that this cover up is a bunch of crap?

On the contrary, I think that you had already pre-determined that you beleive someone else was behind the attacks, and conspiracies like this just give flesh to the idea.

Truth is, if you look at the attacks COMPLETELY OBJECTIVELY, there is no evidence of conspiracy. In order for you to find one, you have to be looking for one. And if what you find is a flimsy, over-complicated story, it's most likely wrong.
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Registered: June 13, 2004
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THANK YOU!!!! ITS ABOUT TIME I SEE SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES SOMETHING ELSE THAN WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO!!!! I admire your courage on having your thoughts, I guess thats a rarity around here. Maybe people will open up and think for them selves, thanks again.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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If you make a claim Joey, it is your job to prove it right. Just like it is the prosecutions job to prove the defendant guilty. Why should I look up a claim you make, when I allready know it is wrong, and the burden of proof is on you?

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<JoeyDauben>
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marine, Bush and Clinton both paid Iraqi Republican Guard members to come over to the US after the first Gulf War - the same thing happened with the Nazis coming over here after WWII. It's happening yet again with "former" Saddam loyalists taking up seats in the incoming government.

History repeats itself over and over and over again.

Operation Northwoods goes into meticulous detail on how the US government planned to carry out terrorist attacks and blow up airliners all in efforts to first blame Cuba, then to wage war against Cuba.

It's all there for everyone to see. You're all a bunch of robots if you can sit there with a straight face and deny this ...then again, it doesn't surprise me. You've been so heavily brainwashed into thinking everything the government and their media says is true.

But hey, who am I? I'm just an independent reporter and devout Christian. I'm used to the persecution and demonization.

Research it before you spout off those things which you do not know.

THEN come back with replies.
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Complex, yes it is. So, you're point is?



No, I said, REDICULOUSLY complex. Read the terrible "Operation Pearl" on the physics911 site.

They landed all the planes, moved the passengers to one plane, then took off again to their repsective targets and the plane with the passegners crashed? The rest is a massivly convoluted story involving really stupid assumptions. They're making completely unsubstantiated THEORIES and presenting them as more or less fact. That site, contrary to what it advertises itself as, is completely UNSCIENTIFIC.

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These aren't my "theories". I agree with them, yes.


Why? All the information supporting these theories comes from the site that is promoting them. There is little or no corroborating evidence.
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These aren't my "theories". I agree with them, yes. Complex, yes it is. So, you're point is? Roll Eyes



"You just pointed out the reason you're theories are flawed.

They're rediculously complex, based on unsubstantiated information, and just don't make any sense."
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I could find trash anywhere.


You just pointed out the reason you're theories are flawed.

They're rediculously complex, based on unsubstantiated information, and just don't make any sense.
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Registered: June 03, 2004
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www.physics911.org

Links can be posted to back the points that Joey and I have made all day long and you'd say, "No proof!" You'll come in here and bumrush us with "blah blah blah" because that's all I'm hearing from you because frankly I just find your posts slightly incoherent. Yes, I'm sure you feel the same way. You never show anything, but if you did I wouldn't look at it anyway... I could find trash anywhere.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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You provide me link to the 'infowars' homepage. You do not provide me with any specific ariticle to back your claims and arguement (Which does not suprise me.) In addition, this is the same infowars that said the Late President Reagan was elected in 1908 and George Bush tried to kill him, because the shooter's uncle was in the oil buisness and lived in the same town as our George W Bush.

You provide no proof of the FBI forcing terrorists to bomb the WTC, and this is doesn't even make sense. If anyone was to give such an order, it would be the CIA.

Timmothy McViegh did not have any governemnt ties. He served in Dessert Storm, but left the Army to join a Militia in Hells Michigan. Quite possibly, the most anti-government militia ever formed. If Iraqi Republican gaurds where caught on tape, how do you know? You say your self the FBI never realesed the tapes. I think what you mean to say is that you think their were Iraqi Republican Gaurds at the Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

As for the terrorists attacks going to build a new world order plan. We did not attack any coutnries after Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City, no country was invaded after the first WTC, and seeked diplomatic measures to resolve 9-11.

At the beginng of these outrageous posts, use this disclaimer, Joey...This is my opinion. I have no proof to back my claim. Take it for what you want, but I have no credentials to make such a claim.

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this would not have been such a big problem if Clinton would have done somthing when the WTC was first attacked. i dont see the liberal media making a big problem out of that.
there were threats made of attacks in his presidency as well.
JFK would have been a great president if he was given more time to do so.
for all you coalition haters, i want you to know that i am not imposing views , i am just sharing my views and am trying to help people see my point.

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<JoeyDauben>
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Many links on my web site will help you understand this stuff more, but only if people are willing to read and research:

http://www.joeydauben.com/5.html

Scroll towards the bottom...I think we can pretty much all agree...that JFK's death was the beginning of our violent downfall.
<JoeyDauben>
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I'm positively sure. I've seen the copies of the newspaper article on web sites and TV.

In 1993 the head of the NYC FBI office instructed the terrorist to incite as much damage as possible, but the guy got scared and put the bomb several hundred feet away from the columns.

It's all in the NYT piece; if I can come across it I'll show ya.
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Registered: June 03, 2004
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Joey, you know what's hard? I told you that I've just started learing all of this stuff rather recently. Um, about 2 years I guess. When I first started learning this stuff, I was mad at the person that was telling me. I told him, "How dare you? I loveAmerica and what it stands for, and you're trying to tell me that things aren't as they seem?" I really fought it. Then when I started to actually figure out that things just really didn't match up I was mad all over again, but this time it made me cry because it really saddened me to know that the America that I love and believe in was a mirage. I still LOVE America, but now with the blinders off. I refuse to be lied to again.

Sorry, to the people that think I'm whining, but either one day this will happen to you or you're living in a lie. That's all there is to it.
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In 1993, the FBI was caught on tape giving the orders to the Iraqi terrorists to plant a bomb at the WTC column(s). This was even in the New York Times.


are you sure that is true?
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Registered: June 03, 2004
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That's true. I agree with you. I think between the both of us we can keep anyone that's interested busy, huh? Wink
<JoeyDauben>
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It's been three years since 9-11, I think people will understand.

And hey, I'm used to getting hammered and tarred-and-feathered for stating the obvious.

I'm not trying to discredit your letsroll911.org stuff, but I think it'd be great if we could just reply (rather than fighting with these people) with nothing but links and photos or links to photos showing the evidence.

That way, the folks not participating in the free-for-all can at least go in private to research stuff themselves.
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