I am sick of hearing about the so called prsioner abuse scandal. I have seen all the photos and I don't think they should be labeled as "torture" yes they are humiliating, but that is about it. Meanwhile American soldiers in an Iraqi prison were beaten, murdered, their bodies burned and then hung from a bridge, I saw one story on that. Nick Berg was BEHEADED and his body dumped by a highway, I saw 5 stories on that. American soldiers are being killed daily in Iraq, but still the media keeps coming back to the prison issue. What those MPs did was wrong, but it is not worse than sawing a man's head off or desecrating 4 soldier's bodies by burning and then hanging them. That is all I have to say on the matter.

Sincerely,
OustedPunx

Veritas Et Aequitas

hey i dont get it. some liberals, like you yell at us for not just leaving iraq alone. then other liberals are mad at us for not staying there. hmmm.
WE have found WMDs in RIaq just not as much as the CIA hinted. We went to war on some faulty information given by a very liberal ambassador to Niger named Joel Wilson. he was so hell bent on undermining bush that he gave the CIA faulty information ON PURPOSE. this joel wilson used his wife, who was a CIA agent to get teh job to Niger, and then he lied about the happenings. the wilson has also posd on vanity fair with his wife. what does that tell you about him?


Bush/Cheney '04

Vice President Redrepublican Esq., CFO co-Founding Father

this post has proudly been deemed racism free by teh Honorable Coalitiotn of Bushsupporter, Marine 16, notsojoey, FreeMarketLover, Redrepublican, Jookly, RepublicanChick, and TruthfullySpeaking and their endless pursuit to cast out the bigotry that has infiltrated youthNOISE.

By the way, what is USA army really doing in Iraq?
Iraq couldn´t attack in 45 minutes.
The only biological weapon found was a fallen due iogurt.
Iraq had nothing but a suffering people.
Why dont USA leave Iraq to the people of Iraq?

Anyway, even if soldiers were being killed that does not justify the torture in prison. That stuff of eye per eye is passed.

What is happening is not an expression of USA people feeling. The settlers of America did not want that.

There must be a group behind all this is happening. A governement inside a government.
It´s a pity.

have you seen hpow many car bombings, truck bombings, bus bombings, suicide killings have all been commited by iraqi insurgents? American soldiers do not go through the city killing people nor do they kill a third as many as the insurgents in battle.
one just today

car bombing in one city in Iraq killed 9 Iraqi civilians.
and its not just in iraq, but in israel and all of these middle east countries.

"american soldiers are being killed daily.." not nearly as many american soldiers have been killed as iraqi civilians. and we can't use what they may do to people to justify people's unjust actions. accept them and move on...you didnt do it, so don't defend it, and admit that it was wrong. it was wrong.

nick berg's death was not revenge! it would have happened anyways. those terrorists are so barbaric, that they will use any excuse to murder an american. the truth is, it would have happened any ways.

do you know why the media keeps running this tory over and over agoain? its because their bias to the liberals. they wil do anything to put bush and the war into a badd light. i say that too much but it is the truth.

Yeah Punx, totally agree with you.

I don't see what's the big deal with the torture in the prisons. I mean, yeah, it's bad that they were forced to pose in those horrible positions. I saw the pictures and they sickened me but that's nothing compared to what they did to Berg.

I saw this political cartoon and it showed the Abu Ghraib tortures and the beheading side to side. Above the Abu Ghraib tortures, it read, "Stupid, stupid, stupid." Avoe the beheading, it read, "Evil." Totally agree with that.

quote:

---

Funny how you say that sawing off a man's head was worse. I do agree, it was not right. The problem wiht your argument comes with the fact that the beheading was done as revenge.

---

If you really buy the revenge thing then I think you're a bit naive. They would have beheaded him anyway for the same reason they beheaded Daniel Pearl and mutilated the contractors

Funny how you say that sawing off a man's head was worse. I do agree, it was not right. The problem wiht your argument comes with the fact that the beheading was done as revenge.

I don't think we can fool anyone by saying that this kind of thing doesn't happen all the time, but it does. Similar things were done in past wars but were not as widly known. Possibly this is our chance to treat people, even prisinors, better and stop giving people good reassns to be angry with the United States.

quote:

---

Please stop wasting the valuable space of youthNOISE.

---

...

quote:

---

*This post has proudly been deemed racism free by the Honorable Coalition of Bushsupporter, Marine16, and notsojoey and their endless pursuit to cast out the bigotry that has infiltrated youthNOISE.*

---

...

That moronic thing keeps growing by the day.

This is allready a topic. Please stop wasting the valuable space of youthNOISE.

*This post has proudly been deemed racism free by the Honorable Coalition of Bushsupporter, Marine16, and notsojoey and their endless pursuit to cast out the bigotry that has infiltrated youthNOISE.*

quote:

---

They think it many times worse to have been made to pose like that, and several times worse, pictures of that being taken and spread over the world. To us being dead is several times worse, but to them it violates their entire religion.

---

Read up on Islam and arab culture. It's terrible for them to be posed like that. But it is not worse than death and mutilation. It doesn't violate thier religion any more than it violates Christianity. If we really wanted to torture them, we'd have cut off thier right hands.

Yes the desecrated bodies and beheading were a ton worse than what the MP's did at Abu Gaharaib in our point of view, but to muslims, their opinion is totally different. They think it many times worse to have been made to pose like that, and several times worse, pictures of that being taken and spread over the world. To us being dead is several times worse, but to them it violates their entire religion.