Yes its a question you probably been asked but I want to know what others think. Personally i don't think it should be going on because I don't believe in any kind of war at all! But do u think Bush is right? Tell me.

Shows how well Kidd reads...

that's not what I said, I never said that jaintors are intellctually inferior to me. I was saying the only reason our goverment works is our current goverment as a whole is a bunch of morons and that the only guys in DC with brains are the janitors.

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what and completely invalidate our goverment by having some one with brains besides a janitor in DC?

Inferring that janitors are somewhat inferior to you intellectually shows how you think. And I can attest that many janitors I know have more intelligence than the resident in chief.

what and completely invalidate our goverment by having some one with brains besides a janitor in DC?

I hate presidents. Why can't we all just live in an anarcho-socialist society where we elect a leader once a week from a pool of especially bright individuals?

I'm kidding, of course. But it wouldn't hurt to change the election process around a little so we get smart people in the White House.

Uh at least we know where Bush stands Kerry changes his opnions 10 times walking to the bathroom

and Florida was Bush Vs. Gore

and in the end the elections over get down off the cross, take the wodd build a bridge and get over it we get rid of the current prez in 08 then we can elect a new moron

No, his last votes were given by help from his political buds just because of his connections. Remember the whole mixup in Florida?

And better scum than horsecrap.

so he stayed in accoridng to military force? he won fair and square this time besides do you really want a lying scum like John Kerry in the white house?

He was definitely more popular at the start of all this, as now he's less popular than ever. But his election was not by the American voters, I mean. So he WAS popular, but not enough to be elected over Kerry.

He was actually at the start of his second term and for a good chunk of his first it's now with the various scandals and the war in Iraq dragging on that's killed him popularity wise

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he was quite populer when re-elected

He wasn't popular at the start of his run, as he never was elected by the majority of our citizen voters.
And now his popularity is at an all-time low, a 39% approval rating last week (according to NBC/Wall Street Journal).
Popularity is the last thing he has right now, or years ago even.

again true but we'd have to prove that bush actually commited a crome to impeach him, he was quite populer when re-elected and all he's really done wrong is bungle the war in Iraq and boy george had plenty of help to do that.

But that isn't what you're doing - you're allowing a leader who has abused his power to benefit his cronies, and lied about doing so, to carry on as normal.

But, it's your money, have fun paying it back - and relay that message to your kids, and their kids, and their kids...

True enough but working with a politician is like working with a child

"okay george you made that mess and now you need to clean it up"

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Side's George Jr. needed to finish what he started in Iraq

If you called a plumber who ended up flooding your house, would you hire him again to give it another crack, at your expense? 'Cause that's what Georgie's doing.

They have held off the Arab world on their own several dozen times but they are our allies so they buy F-15s and other aircraft off us plus the gear we give them or liscense to IMI for Israeli production we don't really support them with actual manpower accept for trainers for new gear

If Israel has some of the best military equipment in the world, why do we bother supporting them? I'm fairly sure they could hold off the rest of the Middle East on their own, and we wouldn't have to worry about terrorist attacks based on the fact that we support them.

I spelt that wrong pardon me, yes I mean the Merkava which is a Genius piece of hardwae with it's combat and cargo capability's whic allow the Merkava to carry Troops, Extra Gas or Ammo and other various supplies it completely rewrites the logistics chain.

A change in leadership will all ways happen in the US it's just a matter of waiting, especialy now that bush is in term 2 so he can't come back but I'd rather have the idiot (Bush) we know than the idiot(Kerry) we don't know and who seems to flip-flop his issues depending on who he's talking to. Side's George Jr. needed to finish what he started in Iraq

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Israel makes it's own tanks the Maroca is as good as anything we've got and can operate as an APC if nessecary

I could find no info on a "Maroca" tank. If you meant the Merkava tank, though, you're entirely correct.

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and I agree but seeing as they are in conflict and nothing we can do short of overthrowing the goverment would change that I support what they have to do.

We have some agreement here. I believe the Iraq invasion was a tremendous mistake, but now that it's been done, the US must finish the job.

However, I do think a change of leadership in the US is necessary for this to happen. All of Bush's actions thus far indicate that he is not truly interested in establishing a democracy in Iraq - if he was, he would have made a case for that, and planned the invasion and occupation in much more detail, with many more resources, as that is what will be necessary to create a Iraqi democracy.

Only a leadership with that goal in mind, and not the myriad other motivations of the Bush junta (securing Iraqi oil, extending American military capability, experimenting in Iraq with far-right neocon policies, securing American imperial interests, and funneling public money to friends in private corporations), will be able to lead the US to create a stable, democratic Iraq.