Of course the holocaust was real. These people are just in denial becasue they don't want to believe it really happened. I have family members who were there. Like amp said, what more proof do I need?

the holocaust was real, it was one of the most horrifyin events in the world's history, jews were not the only victims but they were the target, catholics and christians were also attaked among others, oh the gypsies too, this is another chance to make the world a better place, everyone needs to start respecting ppl and their religions, customs, and lifestyles, stop judgin ppl for any reason at all, fightin and killin does NOT make things better, in fact it makes everything worse bcuz hatred starts to form, so ppl shut up and listen to the person bside, the one that you've discriminated against for watever reason it was, and start gettin the sense of life, the one that we only get one, and start makin something good out of yourselves.

If you can be arrested for saying anything other than "I'm about to blow you up" then rights are being violated. And as much as I wish it was, stupidity is not a crime and isn't punishable by law.

The Holocaust happened. There is no argument. The Germans kept very good records of everyone executed in the camps for one thing: 12 million in all. The Allies came across these camps when they began entering GErmany and Poland and filmed it. Eisenhower MADE his troops film and record the sights they came to see in the camps for a reason: so that they had good evidence of the Nazis actions. Then you have the journals of individual soldiers in the aLlied and Nazi armies. Then you have the visual photography taken from spyplanes, scouting for weapon factories and other sites of potential allied bombing runs. There is photographic evidence of Auschwitz, both parts: the Dakau and Birkenau camps. All of these are primary sources. THere is no conspiracy. I recently heard a conspiracy theory that a plane never really crashed into the Pentagon on September 11th. They said it was propaganda to get the US more enraged against extremism. I mean really. That makes no sense.

I believe in social law... in other words, if you do something as stupid as spout off that the Holocaust never happened I should be allowed to beat you to a living pulp. Most people dont have a problem with that, it's the governments that protect your civil liberties that do, so what was this about not having rights?

Why? What ever happened to freedom of speach? That doesn't go out the window the minute we talk about massacres, that's either there all the time or never. Do you believe that there should be freedom of speach? Because if you do, you're quite the hypocrite.

The western world needs to stop bragging about their rights if they're not actually allowed to exercise them

you would be deserving

I believe the Holocaust happened. I also believe that if I said otherwise then I could be arrested in most European countries.

The world's come a long way since Hitler

Remember Reactionary? He didn't believe the Holocaust happened...I believe he started an entire thread about it.

I totaly think that the holocaust happened! i mean there are FACTS!

not to mention the over whelming amount of stupid people in the world

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Originally posted by Kate127:
How could anyone believe that it was a hoax? I mean how could they pretend that it didn't happen?

Because that belief can be past down from each generation. Maybe somewhere in the world someone's grand parents didn't think it happened because, like clpo said, there is no explaining where 6 million Jews and countless of other gypsys, blacks, homosexuals, disabled people went. People could just not have wanted to believe that a human being could do that to another human being let alone this many people. Look, I'm not trying to dicredit it. I know that it took place. I have a family friend who was born and raised in Germany during that time and could probably tell you anything you wanted to know about it. All I'm trying to get at is why or why not do people believe or disbelieve - mainly disbelieve.

How could anyone believe that it was a hoax? I mean how could they pretend that it didn't happen? People like that need to realise that horible things like that happen, and hiding from it isn't going to change it. The only way to stop injustice is to do something about it.

Or the millions of gypsys, disabled people, blacks, homosexuals and others labled as "undesirable" by the Nazis for that matter.

I agree with clpo it's just BS spread by white supremists and neo-nazi trash

All people need is the minute possibility of something happening and they'll jump on it. The Holocaust was too big to have been a hoax. How can anyone explain where six million Jews disappeared to? Did Bigfoot take them in his spaceship to meet Elvis? I mean, seriously. People will believe anything they want to. This is no more than propaganda spread by anti-Semitic white nationalists who want to do no more than discredit the Jews for victimizing Hitler.

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Originally posted by ampmaster:
My gran was there and smelled the smoke, I have an eye witness what more proof do I need?

Obviously, none. But there are people who don't have a family member or family friend, like I have or you have, that was there or remembers it. All they have is what's taught in history class or what their parents say or don't say about it.

My gran was there and smelled the smoke, I have an eye witness what more proof do I need?