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Registered: November 30, 2003
Posts: 972
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We go to Iraq, free them of Sadaam, give them a chance to have a good, fair life, and what do they do? Kill our soldiers. Say, "We want you out now America". Make life hard for them when we are trying to give them peace. Threaten us and our allies with another 9/11, kidnap innocent civilians.
Any ideas what the **** their problem is? Because I sure as hell don't have an anwser for that kind of bull****!
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Registered: August 26, 2003
Posts: 573
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Sunset, you need to read what luvabug wrote. 
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Registered: May 23, 2003
Posts: 1072
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Hey, let's not blame EVERYTHING on Saudi Arabia...
Pakistan funded them too.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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i think bush didint use the map well (saudi arabia, not iraq, was responsible for 9/11)
what's so bad of not thinking the way americans do? (not taht i disagree or anything)
people (and their countries) are entitled to opinions. a lot of countries who don't think like americans are succeful.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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the problem is...
the iraquis were not responsible for 9/11. osama was (he's from saudi arabia).
and they never asked for help. saddam was evil, ok, but there were no weapons of mass destruction (or an excuse to attack the country). funny, though, pride is being taken because saddam was found, which i don't know why, because a soldier did not find him, it was an Iraqui doctor.
not all iraquis hate americans.
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Registered: June 11, 2003
Posts: 175
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the iraqis dont have to be grateful...they didnt ask us for help. even if they had, we F*cked up their country....and if people came in and did to us what "we"(bush) did to them, all of you people bashing them would be rebelling just the same.
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Registered: October 17, 2003
Posts: 4624
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I really don't know... it's pissing me off. Those freakin people are ungrateful *****. They're 17, 18, 19 year olds DYING for them. For their FREEDOM. To HELP that country. Those are KIDS. KIDS are dying for their *****. WTF is up with that? Wouldn't their governemnet be pissed if we killed their KIDS? They're torturing out soldiers... murdering them. I don't get it. I understand that we blew up their country... but frick. I don't care how BIG our Army is. One lost life is one too many. I'm not tying to sound harsh or rude... but ****. Those terroist attacked our country first, I don't blame Bush for rebeling. -Sunset 
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Registered: April 13, 2004
Posts: 15
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quote: The 700 Club (today's 700 Club tip: Don't listen to your doctor's report, because God will heal you).
hehe, that was great
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Registered: March 08, 2004
Posts: 1686
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What needs to be understood is that the vast majority of Iraqis never cared for America too much even before the invasion. This is due to a combination of religious beliefs and just not liking the big cheese. When we moved in to occupy them, of course they hated us more. Sure, we're doing them a favor, and I think they know we're doing them a favor, but that in itself can create more negative feelings. Although we're helping the Iraqis, I bet the last thing they wanted was "Big Bad America" to intervene.
That's not to say they're not grateful, and that they won't be even more grateful later. I think they feel kind of like a guy would feel if his girlfriend rushed into a fight he was losing, saved his butt, and then whooped the guy who had been beating him. Sadly, gratitude is not the first emotion that pops into my mind in that situation.
But that's just the general population. The ones doing the killing are the small bands of extremist groups, and they'll probably go on killing for a long time. Unfortunately, you really can't get violent religious extremists to see the situation logically: they think God wants them to kill all the Americans, so they do it. They are beyond hope. We can only hope they either don't have children, or don't succeed in passing on their beliefs.
Lastly, the fear of becoming "Americanized" is certainly great. Iraqis have their own unique culture and lifestyle and religion. There is nothing wrong with the Islamic religion, unless it is taken too far, and that can be said of any religion. They are afraid they will be forced to conform to American ways of life and beliefs, and although I don't think Dubya is trying to do that at all, I could see where they would easily make the mistake. Perhaps they once received a transmission of The 700 Club (today's 700 Club tip: Don't listen to your doctor's report, because God will heal you).
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Registered: May 23, 2003
Posts: 1072
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Perhaps Iraq's problem is that they are an independent country with a long history of not having a western power controlling them?
That's certainly not their only problem, they have lots and lots and lots.
But you compltely fail to realize that countries like to be autonomous. Really, if France invaded the U.S. in order to take the illegitemately elected President out of office, and they succeeded, don't you think there would be some armed resistance in the U.S.? HMMM? HMMM?
And Futility...how are Shi'ites who hated Saddam Hussein terrorists cells that remained after Hussein was crushed? PLEASE. DO. EXPLAIN.
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Registered: March 21, 2004
Posts: 549
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It is not out of proportion, it's a signifigant problem. You need to remember that the the size of entire US Armed Sevices (including non combat personnel) is under 1,000,000 people. Thats 4% of the population. But think of the trouble just the combat personnel can cause. The Prussian army on Fredrick the Greats time was at least 3% of the population, and he fought off the combined powers of several other countries. A tiny minority can make a HUGE difference. Don't forget that.
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Registered: April 13, 2004
Posts: 15
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dude, ur blowin it way out of proportion, it's a small minority of extremists (hehe, kinda like pat robertson + the guns, lol sorry couldn't help it, had to say it) most of the country is either peacfully resistant or supportive of us, it's not a general uprising. altho, if that misrepresentation boots bush out of office, them, i'm cool with it 
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Registered: July 07, 2003
Posts: 738
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It's not civilians killing our soldiers, *******. The people killing our soldiers are the terrorists cells that remained after Saddam's military was crushed.
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Registered: March 12, 2004
Posts: 445
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the people killing our soldiers aren't the one's who wanted saddam out in the first place. just as we americans rarely agree on anything, people in other countries may also disagree amoungst themselves. some of the people who did want him out are greatful but don't want an overdose of US involvement. no two people are the same, why is this so difficult to grasp?
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Registered: August 26, 2003
Posts: 573
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Give me a break. What they did was still very harsh. 
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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Have you guys heard of.. well, I don't know.. the NEWS?
Yeah, you may want to start listening to/reading it. It's handy, sometimes.
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Registered: April 24, 2003
Posts: 2196
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Well in a way we kind of invaded the only way of life they ever knew, and they dont want the change. But once they see that women don't have to be opressed, and there's more to life than living under the rule of an evil dictator, they might be a bit more friendly towards us.
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Registered: August 26, 2003
Posts: 573
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Yeah, it makes me so mad when I think about it. What the hell did we ever do to them to be treated that way?
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Registered: February 24, 2003
Posts: 492
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is it that surprising that the people there don't think in the way Americans do?
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