It's about time you all stop listening to everything the media tells you. Take a closer look at how those buildings fell, and ask yourself if jet fuel can burn hot enough to melt concrete and steel buildings 110 stories high at free fall speed. 9/11 isn't the only thing. These have been going on since America was established. Take a good look at the previous wars that have occurred in our history... I bet none of you can tell me what provoked World War I, World War II, and Vietnam. It's very sad the position our country is in now. Remember the 1930's? Lets pay attention to how history tends to repeat itself.

Though I do understand the points of all in this forum I think it is important to point out the usfulness of public fear to those in power. this is not to suggest that our governments caused these terrorist attacks but that once they occour it makes the population of any country very easy to control. people don't seem to mind attacking a country once it has attacked theirs whether it will help the situation or not. in america after 9/11 people where crying out for a responce, if there had not been one the country would be in uproar. so why not complete an unfinished job and kill too birds with one stone. it is quite clear that in order to take millitary action it is not the injustice etc that is required but a benifit to your own country. otherwise we would have invaded Rwanda during the geniside and helped out many other countries in desperate need. It is difficult to imagine in possitions out of power such as ours but everything has to be worked out, ideals for justice and truth being worth any and everything we have is just not a reality. i think that any leader of a country in the G8 will know that even if they are unable to admit it.

So what points are either of you trying to address? Are you trying to say that all these wars weren't caused by terrorists? Are you saying that people don't attack other countries? Neither of these posts have much of a point...

I think what merc-merc is trying to say (and remember these are assumptions unfortunately) is that only we have started our wars... Well we don't really start wars we just kind of butt in. WWI the archduke Ferdinand is shot by rebels which leads to a war between its allies and enemies... we join because well I can't remember exactly why I have to say but I think it has to do with us being part of the Allies. WWII we choose not to be involved until our country is attacked (attacked with militia not a group of extremists even though the japs could be considered extremists in a few perspectives) so we decide that as the whole world is fighting, the way of life for all powerful people is threatened so we step in. Just skip the Korean war I suppose since everyone just disregards it and on to Nam which like the "war" in Iraq isn't a proper war (congress did not vote for either). Nam and Iraq are very similar in the early stages, we're "scared" of commies and we decide to aid South Nam in order to stop North Nam (aided by our rivals the USSR) It's a bitter end to the cold war. Now we have Iraq... we never quite finished desert storm so now we're over there I believe that is why we went to war (There was afterall no proof of weapons of mass destruction to begin with) we wish to finish what we started back in the 90's.

Now back to the original post... if you're trying to say that wars aren't started by terrorist activity (which is something I regretfully have to assume for lack of purpose) I agree and disagree with you. There are many factors that start wars religion, power, money and if the conditions are right then a good old amount of threatening and terrorist activity will scare the bajeebies out of most people who will demand for something to be done. And thats why I believe you are both right and wrong. ^.^

and banturon don't be so unproductive and contradictory... do you honestly think that you have all the answers? if so I would like to hear them.

I was going to point out how all those wars started, but I realized that there would be no way of teaching a fool who believes he already has all the answers.