I know tons of people talk about this all the time. But, I dont hear often enough about what teens think. Please tell me what your honest opinion is on Abortion
Thank ya

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Originally posted by rachaelhunter:
Girls have abortions for a reason-there is not adequate support for young mothers and pregnant girls are victims of slander and humiliation. Instead of simply forcing them to continue with something that could be very emotionally painful for them, there should be more resources for them.

I see what you mean here, but abortion is a far more emotionally painful thing than a pregnancy. People who have undergone abortions are far more likely to be depressed than those who carried the baby to full term. (Search it on Google). Personally, I would be far more upset/depressed in the long-term over thinking of how my could-have been child than about my child (hypothetically speaking. I have no child).

i think you should keep going for what you believe in. but i wouldn't get abortions

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my birthcontrol pills failed and its just one of those things that sorda just happen.

Antibiotics typically cause birth control pills to fail.

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have so much i want to do graduate from highschool, go into the service, become a registered nurse

Having a child doesn't stop you from doing those things. My mom had my oldest brother at age 16 and still graduated high school. My sister became a nurse while raising two kids and her husband working over 40 hours a week.
Having a child certainly doesn't make these tasks easier, but it's not impossible.

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so i consider it just a removal just like getting your tonsols or a tooth removed

There are some MAJOR physiological differences between an embryo and a tooth/tonsil. It's a pretty inaccurate way to view it.

I believe that abortions are wrong, but I would not want them to be illegal. Girls have abortions for a reason-there is not adequate support for young mothers and pregnant girls are victims of slander and humiliation. Instead of simply forcing them to continue with something that could be very emotionally painful for them, there should be more resources for them. There should be a lot more support sources for pregnant teenagers and even more than that, people should stop humiliating them. What is shameful about teen pregnancy? A girl who choses to carry a baby full term despite the great personal sacrifice that it involves should be admired. She is bringing life into the world and even if she gives her baby up for adoption, she will still have given someone a life.

I have great respect for any girl who decides to carry her baby full term instead of having an abortion. I would really like people to stop having abortions. I'm a Baha'i and we believe that babies have a soul from the second that they are conceived.

hey well im faced with a terrible decison on should i have an abortion or keep my baby im very young havent even got to experience my 21st birthday but yet im pregnant. my birthcontrol pills failed and its just one of those things that sorda just happen. i am going to get an abortion i have so much i want to do graduate from highschool, go into the service, become a registered nurse and before i bring anthor life into the world i want my life to be set! call it selfish but i think of it as a good thing because i was to have the baby i wouldnt be able to caare for it the way i would want to. it sucks but im barely a month so i consider it just a removal just like getting your tonsols or a tooth removed

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Originally posted by debater742:
damn dude kharybdis tht was harsh
and wat i feel is tht abortion should be agenst the law if u were dumb enough to get pregnant. YOU were the dumb one not that poor child why should they not get the chance to have a great life cause you messed up and dont wanna be enbareassed thats some real;y fucked up shit that you would killl not to be made fun of. If you get pregnant you should at the least give it up for adoption not kill it. THINK IDIOT

not all ppl that get pregnant choose to get pregnant, there are cases of rape, where the condom breaks or where the condom slips off. so really your the one being harsh.

i was raped and i've had two children due to the fact, but it wasn't my choice to get pregnant, hell when i was raped i hadn't even had my first kiss. so you can't say that all the girls that get pregnant were "dumb enough to" some its because it was an accident or it happened to them..

You dumb, reactionary fuck.

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Worldwide, an estimated 68 000 women die as a result of complications from unsafe induced abortions every year—about eight per hour.6 This prevalence translates into an estimated case-fatality rate of 367 deaths per 100 000 unsafe abortions, which is hundreds of times higher than that for safe, legal abortion in developed nations.

For the record, legal abortion kills fewer than 1 in 100,000 women, making it at minimum over 367 times safer than illegal abortions.

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Widespread access to legal abortions on request in Romania from 1957 onwards led to a decline in unsafe abortions with an abortion mortality ratio of 20 per 100 000 livebirths in 1960.6, 42 Mortality began to rise steadily as Ceausescu's pronatalist restrictive policy imposed in 1966 began to take effect (figure 5). By 1989 mortality ratios had risen seven-fold to peak at 148 deaths per 100 000 livebirths; abortion accounted for 87% of the deaths. When Ceausescu was deposed in 1989, the immediate change of laws reversed this trend. The mortality ratio fell by more than half to 68 within the first year of safer access itself. By 2002, mortality from unsafe abortions was as low as nine per 100 000 livebirths; abortion deaths accounted for less than half of maternal deaths.

Oh wait what's this making abortion illegal causes a dramatic increase in illegal abortions leading to a dramatic increase in maternal fatalities well I never.

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Making abortion legal, safe, and accessible does not appreciably increase demand. Instead, the principal effect is shifting previously clandestine, unsafe procedures to legal and safe ones. Hence, governments need not worry that the costs of making abortion safe will overburden the health-care infrastructure.18 Countries that liberalised their abortion laws such as Barbados, Canada, South Africa, Tunisia, and Turkey did not have an increase in abortion. By comparison, the Netherlands, which has unrestricted access to free abortion and contraception, has one of the lowest abortion rates in the world.18

Legalized abortion results in a tremendous decrease in maternal fatalities and has been shown to in fact reduce the number of abortions.

You literally want to kill women to appease your infantile sense of self-righteousness. That is you. You are a wonderful human being.

_{Source: Unsafe abortion: the preventable pandemic: The Lancet}

damn dude kharybdis tht was harsh
and wat i feel is tht abortion should be agenst the law if u were dumb enough to get pregnant. YOU were the dumb one not that poor child why should they not get the chance to have a great life cause you messed up and dont wanna be enbareassed thats some real;y fucked up shit that you would killl not to be made fun of. If you get pregnant you should at the least give it up for adoption not kill it. THINK IDIOT

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Originally posted by mizzunderstood:
and in my opinion if God did not want that girl to have that child then he would not put a child in that girls belly

Human reproduction takes place as internal fertilization by sexual intercourse. During this process, the erect penis of the male is inserted into the female's vagina until the male ejaculates semen, which contains sperm, into the female's vagina. The sperm then travels through the vagina and cervix into the uterus or fallopian tubes for fertilization of the ovum. Upon successful fertilization and implantation, gestation of the fetus then occurs within the female's uterus, called pregnancy. This process is also known as "mating" or "having sex".

just clearin that up didnt see a whole lotta god there though

also babby goes in uterus not "belly" but i can understand your confusion since you're prob from a benighted southern hellhole that still marvels at modern innovations like stoplights and indoor plumbing

well if you are not old enough for a baby then u are most DEFINATLETY NOT ready for sex!! and in my opinion if God did not want that girl to have that child then he would not put a child in that girls belly who knows she/he could be the one who helps save your/ anyones life

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Originally posted by starsgoboom:
I am all for abortion.

If someone can't afford a child, or isn't old enough to have a child, abortion is a great option.

There are also cases where a girl is raped. Why should she go through an expensive pregnancy when she was forced to have sex? It's not fair.

Abortion saves lives.

The amount of men raped is so insignificant that it is ridiculous and disgusting to complain about it when you look at the women's rape statistics, regardless of how much is 'reported.' Most men who are raped happen to be homosexuals and they are raped because of that. So in reality it is still men who do all the violation. Sure maybe there is an occasional woman rapist but it is about as common as a female serial killer. So if it happens like that show me some proof.

If men take care of their children then why do statistic's blatantly speak otherwise? Why is the amount of single mothers so astronomical? Why are there so many fathers who don't pay child support?

Yes some fathers stay and take care of their children, but when it comes down to this place called 'reality' there are far more men who adandon their children than women and that is an unreputable fact.

Also I love how everyone jumps on my silly, outrageous posts rather than actually looking at the ones I take seriously. And you wonder why yn sucks balls.

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Yes men have a vital role in making children but they don't in taking care of them. (This is the choice they make)

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Rape may as well be exclusive to women. When you look at the percentages it is almost frivolous to point out men are raped.

That is very, very unfair.

After a baby is born, a man is just as capable of taking care of it as a woman.

Also, male rape statistics lie. Most men who are raped never report it to the police because they're too embarrassed to talk about it.

Wolfie, I think your argument about a father's rights is not a strong one. My mother, when it came to "actually being a mother", "just packed up left and never came back". It isn't just a mistake made by fathers. However, if my mother never wanted me, she could have got an abortion I suppose. But I am glad she choose to let me live.

The burden of parenthood as being the choice of life and death could perhaps be better decided before it is trusted on us.

Now I am not a product of rape. I don't know of anyone who is either. Although, such a situation might be better addressed as "how to better prevent rape."

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Please excuse Wolfie's blind hatred of anything with a penis. One has to remember that it's not just her body, it's his baby as well, which is why abortion is such a difficult issue for everyone.

Maybe you should read my other response to him and learn something instead of just going 'derr she said something outrageous'

Yes men have a vital role in making children but they don't in taking care of them. (This is the choice they make) Which is why they should have no say in a woman's pregnancy. So let's see men should be allowed to have a say in whether or not a woman is allowed to give birth but when it comes to actually being a father they can just pack up and leave and never come back. Wow, how just and fair.

Yes I know what I said is a little extreme, but as I also said, I was irritated.

Rape may as well be exclusive to women. When you look at the percentages it is almost frivolous to point out men are raped.

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I'm sorry but I feel men have no right in deciding what women can and cannot do

As another man, I think this is a little unfair, because (even if only in the extremely short term) we still have a rather vital role to play in the reproductive process, as EG pointed out.

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Maybe if men didn't go around screwing everything that moves and forcing/pressuring women to have sex we wouldn't need to have abortions.

This is also unfair, and unjustified.

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The thing is that fetuses are most definitely humans.

They are not humans in the fullest. and most relevant, sense. Before the legal limit in the UK (24 weeks), foetuses are not independent of their mothers, and lack their own functioning digestive organs, let alone brain and consciousness. They lack humanity in the sense in which you are using it here, and, in this instance, yes, they are simply parts of the mother that she may dispose of as she wishes, though, of course, one should never be glib about such decisions.

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I cannot claim to understand the terrible pain of rape victims.

A small but important number of men are rape victims. Rape is not exclusive to women - and this is a very important thing to remember.

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I cannot say for certain that I would be strong enough to NOT get an abortion in certain situations, if I were in their shoes.

Having an abortion is not a sign of personal weakness.

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Yes, I believe it is senseless killing. But so is hunting and factory farming...

EG, unlike hunting and factory farming, abortion is not senseless - it is in fact probably the most often considered ethical issue of our generation. As an anti-hunting, anti-capital punishment, vegetarian, I don't feel any contradiction at all in saying that women should be allowed to choose to remove an unwanted foetus, because there are good reasons for it. (And besides, Dr House says so.)

Please excuse Wolfie's blind hatred of anything with a penis. One has to remember that it's not just her body, it's his baby as well, which is why abortion is such a difficult issue for everyone.

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I extend my deepest condolences to all the women who have to go through this struggle. I cannot say for certain that I would be strong enough to NOT get an abortion in certain situations, if I were in their shoes.

I doubt you would be. This is why I believe abortion should remain legal, because many women who are in desperate situations like that who can't get into an abortion clinic for whatever reason (protesters preventing them maybe?), will do it themselves.

Yes, I believe it is senseless killing. But so is hunting and factory farming...

oh you're a man. Wow. Why don't you keep your business out of a women's issue and go read your playboy and your Esquire you chauvanistic pig. I'm sorry but I feel men have no right in deciding what women can and cannot do. I know, we should just neuter all men who have gotten an unmarried women pregnant, that way it won't happen again. Maybe if men didn't go around screwing everything that moves and forcing/pressuring women to have sex we wouldn't need to have abortions.

I'm sorry but nothing pisses me off more than a man trying to take away my rights as a person, a living person who can think.

Have you ever heard the quote 'I think therefore I am'?

Well that's why we kill feti and not living, breathing children.

You talk of premature children living... You do know late-term abortion is illegal in the US, so I'm not sure how this supports your arguement.

So I guess it's also your duty to strip women of their rights. How progressive.

Abortion is murder, and thus abortion is wrong.

What really gets to me are the people who say something along the lines of "I'm against abortion PERSONALLY, but I think it should be up to the mother." That makes no sense. Because the problem is that fetuses are either (1) human or (2) not human, and thus abortions are either (1) murder or (2) not murder. If fetuses are not humans, then why on earth are you against abortion? It's just like clipping your nails. But if you believe that fetuses ARE humans, then it's absolutely wrong, and you ought to try to put a stop to it (obviously through peaceful means), even in other people. You don't grant people the right to CHOOSE to kill their fifth-grade children just because it doesn't affect you personally.

The thing is that fetuses are most definitely humans. We've had children born prematurely that survived and were totally fine. I have two cousins who were both born two months early. They're entering the third and second grades this year. Are you going to tell me that, if they HADN't been born that early, it would not be murder if we had killed them in the womb two months before the nine months was up? Just because they're in the womb, they're not human? The only difference is location! That's like saying it's ok to kill somebody if they're in the living room but not in the kitchen!

I am not a woman. I cannot claim to know what it's like to bear a child, and I will never know. I cannot claim to understand the terrible pain of rape victims. But what I do know is that murder is simply not justifiable. In the rare case that the mother's life is at risk, of course, the choice is up to her, since it's a life versus another life, but in all other cases, I can't see that killing an innocent baby is acceptable just to avoid discomfort (even extreme pain) or inconvenience. I extend my deepest condolences to all the women who have to go through this struggle. I cannot say for certain that I would be strong enough to NOT get an abortion in certain situations, if I were in their shoes. And yet the fact remains that abortion is simply the killing of an innocent, totally defenseless child. I consider it my duty to try and protect such helpless humans as best I can.

i think that abortions are good, especially for the girls that we're raped and have that choice to make