I have no problems with pro lifers they have a very good point
but i'm pro choice hands down


and just a question.. how many threads are there about abortion... maybe its time to lean toward another topic...

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Originally posted by WorthWaitingFor:
Yeah, because yet another thread on abortion was totally necessary...

I definitely know why pro-life supporters feel the way they do.

But I, am pro-choice.

I do agree that there is a baby in there, and that it is a life that that person is killing. But, before it is born, it is part of the mother. It is, shall we say, a mother's body part. And, since it is a mother's body part, she should have the right to choose what she would like done with her own body.

You can't even say it's not part of the mother either, because, as we all know... without that mother, the baby would die.

I'm pro-choice on mostly everything.

It's not up to me to deicde what is and isn't right in every situation.

However, if I were a woman and I was pregnant, I would opt not to have an abortion unless it caused a severe health threat.

Im pro-freedom, so I'm pro-choice.

I dont understand how bush can spread freedom, when he doesnt even give us rights to control our own bodies.

Im definately Pro-Choice - people should have the chance to make thier own decisions on what they want to do.
What gives someone else the right to make that decision for you?

I'm from the UK, so i don't really know what the political situation in the USA is at the moment on this issue, anyone care to enlighten me ?

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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
Men should have a say in it too. If men can't decide if they want to keep their child then when a women decides to keep it when a man says to abort it, he shouldn't have to pay child support then.

he should have a say, but the final decision should be up to the mother, since she's the one who has to go through the pregnancy.

I think abortion is wrong. My reasons mainly being that it's murder. If you've ever seen pictures of a baby at even 15 days, it looks like a little person.

it is truly the mother's choice. she's the one who has to deal w/carrying a baby inside her for 9 months. some1 [namely, prs. bush] shouldn't b trying to tell said girl what is best for her. she's the only one who knos that.

Yeah, because yet another thread on abortion was totally necessary...

Typically guys that go around having unprotected sex are not guys that are ready/would choose, to have a child. I'm not saying its always the case, but in the stereotypical situation, it would be less emotional for the guy to say "get an abortion"

Men should have a say in it too. If men can't decide if they want to keep their child then when a women decides to keep it when a man says to abort it, he shouldn't have to pay child support then.

how many of u have fetus's?
how many of u are men?
i too, am a man, i have an opinion on this isssue, but i do not feel it should mean diddly squat since it is an issue i feel it is impossible for me 2 truly understand... alll u ladies, VOICE YOUR OPINIONS!!!

and what if u were raped? and conceived a child? at 16?
would u give birth to a child that might ruin your life?

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A life is a life and should be just as valued as anyones. Is it really that bad to kill someone in a coma that knows nothing but the bed ? Yes.

and thats why you let them die.

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No, it DOES NOT know what it will be, it does not know anything, it does not think.

How do you know it doesn't think? And, you don't need to think to grow.

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Even it did, is it really so cruel to take the life of something that know's nothing except floating in embryolic fluid?

A life is a life and should be just as valued as anyones. Is it really that bad to kill someone in a coma that knows nothing but the bed ? Yes.

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If it had friends and a girlfriend and hopes of being a bodybuilder some day that would be different

By taking it's life, your taking all of those oppurtunitites away from it. Oh and with that logical thinking, it is ok to kill newborns,infants, todlers and anybody without friends or a girlfriend. Yeah that was almost logical.

And I suggest going to the other 3 or 4 abortion threads that are going on.

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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
It is a he or she from the day of conception. From the day it starts development, it knows whether or not it will be a he or a she and what it'll look like. It may not be a noticable male or female, but that doesn't mean that it isn't.

No, it DOES NOT know what it will be, it does not know anything, it does not think. Even it did, is it really so cruel to take the life of something that know's nothing except floating in embryolic fluid? If it had friends and a girlfriend and hopes of being a bodybuilder some day that would be different, but the nature of it's life up to the moment of birth is hardly any different than that of a jellyfish.

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You've given me nothing to rethink, I stated that the biological goo that inhabits a woman's womb cannot own anything on the basis that it is not a thinking being, all you've said is that it owns it's own body and I would argue that it cannot own it's own body because "it" is just that, an "it". "It" is not a he nor a she, "It" is simply an "It" until it grows to be something more. Simply because it can become more doesn't mean it IS more.

It is a he or she from the day of conception. From the day it starts development, it knows whether or not it will be a he or a she and what it'll look like. It may not be a noticable male or female, but that doesn't mean that it isn't.

Pro-choice. There are more important issues on this world.

Abortion is necessary. The world would be overpopulated if all the aborted kids were alive.

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As for the baby taking ownership of the mother's body, that's absurd. How can something that's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails own anything?

Your right, it don't own her body. It has it's own body... And it owns that, so for your " it's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails so how can it own anything" theory, rethink it.

You've given me nothing to rethink, I stated that the biological goo that inhabits a woman's womb cannot own anything on the basis that it is not a thinking being, all you've said is that it owns it's own body and I would argue that it cannot own it's own body because "it" is just that, an "it". "It" is not a he nor a she, "It" is simply an "It" until it grows to be something more. Simply because it can become more doesn't mean it IS more.

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As for the baby taking ownership of the mother's body, that's absurd. How can something that's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails own anything?

Your right, it don't own her body. It has it's own body... And it owns that, so for your " it's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails so how can it own anything" theory, rethink it.