Abortion is murder, and thus abortion is wrong.

What really gets to me are the people who say something along the lines of "I'm against abortion PERSONALLY, but I think it should be up to the mother." That makes no sense. Because the problem is that fetuses are either (1) human or (2) not human, and thus abortions are either (1) murder or (2) not murder. If fetuses are not humans, then why on earth are you against abortion? It's just like clipping your nails. But if you believe that fetuses ARE humans, then it's absolutely wrong, and you ought to try to put a stop to it (obviously through peaceful means), even in other people. You don't grant people the right to CHOOSE to kill their fifth-grade children just because it doesn't affect you personally.

The thing is that fetuses are most definitely humans. We've had children born prematurely that survived and were totally fine. I have two cousins who were both born two months early. They're entering the third and second grades this year. Are you going to tell me that, if they HADN't been born that early, it would not be murder if we had killed them in the womb two months before the nine months was up? Just because they're in the womb, they're not human? The only difference is location! That's like saying it's ok to kill somebody if they're in the living room but not in the kitchen!

I am not a woman. I cannot claim to know what it's like to bear a child, and I will never know. I cannot claim to understand the terrible pain of rape victims. But what I do know is that murder is simply not justifiable. In the rare case that the mother's life is at risk, of course, the choice is up to her, since it's a life versus another life, but in all other cases, I can't see that killing an innocent baby is acceptable just to avoid discomfort (even extreme pain) or inconvenience. I extend my deepest condolences to all the women who have to go through this struggle. I cannot say for certain that I would be strong enough to NOT get an abortion in certain situations, if I were in their shoes. And yet the fact remains that abortion is simply the killing of an innocent, totally defenseless child. I consider it my duty to try and protect such helpless humans as best I can.

i think that abortions are good, especially for the girls that we're raped and have that choice to make

Abortions i don't really care for them but try putting yourself in the mother shoes. Many teenage girls have abortions cause they know they don't have the strength to carry through with having this child

So you're saying it is murder if a girl aborts a fetus that was put their by her father?

Wow. I love how we all use our brains to think.

ABORTIONS. I don't think abortions should exist. It is murder. If you have an abortion, you had sex, and if you chose to have sex you should deal with the consequences. I'm not saying that people who choose to have abortions are wrong for there decisions, because they may have good reasons for their choices. I can understand if you were raped, but even then adoption will help.

I believe abortion is murder.
A child should never be referred to as "a choice".

Some people say that pregnancy could damage a young girl's body. Guess what!? So can abortions.

I like what flexy said about it, if you aren't ready to raise a baby, you are not ready for sex.
I know some women get raped but that isn't the baby's fault and there is always adoption.

Pro Choice.

In some cases it's OKAY.
But adoption is always a better way because of the families that can't have the babies.
It shouldn't be used as birth control or anything tho you should be response-able for your actions and think what will be BEST for the baby not your self... if your having sex you better be ready for that to happen...

shutup.
just let me be dumb in peace.

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whats your point?

My point is that not every unwanted pregnancy is the result of unprotected sex. You said "If a woman doesn't want a child then why didnt she use a condom or birth control pills?", but some couples do use protection but still end up pregnant.

i recently have just done a debate on this exact topic, and have done a lot of research. i wont go into all the specifics, but i have reason to believe that abortions are not only morally wrong, but bad for the mother's health, future pregnacies, and the economy.

if you want me to go into specifics or show you good websites let me know.

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...first off.
whats your point?

*facepalm* His point was that your logic was extremely faulty.

As far as the "just have the baby and give it up for adoption 'cause there are so many couples out there who want to adopt" argument I have two problems:

A) If the potential mother is young then her body could not be ready for a pregnancy, potentially putting her at risk. Also, no matter who you are, pregnancy is a big deal and not something that should "just" be done. Yes yes, I know, "then she shouldn't have sex!" Face it, people will have sex. The species would have died out if we didn't have that urge.

B) The number of children up for adoption in the United States alone outstrips the number of people looking to adopt kids, we do NOT need any more children in our sometimes extremely poorly run adoption program than we already have.

No one has the right to tell a any girl, no matter what age, she can't get an abotrtion. Not the Goverment, Congress, Parents/family members, or friends. They only person who really has a say in it is her boyfriend, and he still can't stop her.

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Originally posted by clpo13:

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Originally posted by gaby_babyy:
abortion.
I hate it..completely against it.
About half the people I know say that its the woman's choice, its her body and child.
I cant stand it when they say that, I mean what
if their mothers had gotten an abortion?
If a woman doesn't want a child then why didnt she use a condom or birth control pills?
I'm sorry but those dumbasses shouldn't be having sex [without protection]if they know they could get pregnant.

First off, the "what if their mothers had gotten an abortion" argument is the epitome of faulty logic. If a woman's mother had gotten an abortion, then she wouldn't exist and neither would the fetus she's considering aborting. It's pointless wondering about it and it doesn't accomplish anything in a debate.

Secondly, condoms and birth control pills are not perfect. There's always the chance they'll fail to prevent a pregnancy. Pills are a lot more effective, though, since they suppress ovulation. Without an egg, there's nothing to be fertilized, and the woman can't get pregnant. There's still a chance something might go wrong (e.g. bad pill, woman forgets to take a pill, etc.), but it's still better than a condom, which could break or slip.

So, it's not just unprotected sex that results in an unwanted pregnancy.

...first off.
whats your point?
(another thing I forgot to mention was instead of abortion the woman could have it and put it up for adoption to a couple who actually want a child.)

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Originally posted by gaby_babyy:
abortion.
I hate it..completely against it.
About half the people I know say that its the woman's choice, its her body and child.
I cant stand it when they say that, I mean what
if their mothers had gotten an abortion?
If a woman doesn't want a child then why didnt she use a condom or birth control pills?
I'm sorry but those dumbasses shouldn't be having sex [without protection]if they know they could get pregnant.

First off, the "what if their mothers had gotten an abortion" argument is the epitome of faulty logic. If a woman's mother had gotten an abortion, then she wouldn't exist and neither would the fetus she's considering aborting. It's pointless wondering about it and it doesn't accomplish anything in a debate.

Secondly, condoms and birth control pills are not perfect. There's always the chance they'll fail to prevent a pregnancy. Pills are a lot more effective, though, since they suppress ovulation. Without an egg, there's nothing to be fertilized, and the woman can't get pregnant. There's still a chance something might go wrong (e.g. bad pill, woman forgets to take a pill, etc.), but it's still better than a condom, which could break or slip.

So, it's not just unprotected sex that results in an unwanted pregnancy.

abortion.
I hate it..completely against it.
About half the people I know say that its the woman's choice, its her body and child.
I cant stand it when they say that, I mean what
if their mothers had gotten an abortion?
If a woman doesn't want a child then why didnt she use a condom or birth control pills?
I'm sorry but those dumbasses shouldn't be having sex [without protection]if they know they could get pregnant.

In my opinion, I think they're terrible. People need to realize there are other options to make instead of running straight to an abortion clinic. You can have the baby and settle for an adoption to a family who wants a child and you feel will take well good care of it. Or you can raise the baby yourself and handle the responsibility in a mature way, just dont make it an excuse for you not to go to school! They way I look at it is, most couples have sex in order to start a family. If you're not ready to raise a baby, you're not ready to have sex.

I strongly disagree with abortions. There is absolutely no reason to kill helpless babies. You were the one who got pregnant, you have to deal with the baby. And if your reason is because you can't take care of the child then you can settle for adoption. It makes me so sad that anyone could do that.

And how do you know the baby wouldn't make Hitler look like a boy scout? That's not a very compelling argument.

I think that abaortions are inhumane because regardless thats like killing somebody. And how you knkow that baby wouldntdiscover cancer or aid's cure I just think everybody should be able to live life

I think abortions are the most unimportant issue today. Don't get them. Get them. I couldn't care less. There are much more important things to worry about. The fact that people are fighting to make them illegal, saddens me. We should be focusing our energy on children who are already here.