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A life is a life and should be just as valued as anyones. Is it really that bad to kill someone in a coma that knows nothing but the bed ? Yes.

and thats why you let them die.

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No, it DOES NOT know what it will be, it does not know anything, it does not think.

How do you know it doesn't think? And, you don't need to think to grow.

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Even it did, is it really so cruel to take the life of something that know's nothing except floating in embryolic fluid?

A life is a life and should be just as valued as anyones. Is it really that bad to kill someone in a coma that knows nothing but the bed ? Yes.

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If it had friends and a girlfriend and hopes of being a bodybuilder some day that would be different

By taking it's life, your taking all of those oppurtunitites away from it. Oh and with that logical thinking, it is ok to kill newborns,infants, todlers and anybody without friends or a girlfriend. Yeah that was almost logical.

And I suggest going to the other 3 or 4 abortion threads that are going on.

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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
It is a he or she from the day of conception. From the day it starts development, it knows whether or not it will be a he or a she and what it'll look like. It may not be a noticable male or female, but that doesn't mean that it isn't.

No, it DOES NOT know what it will be, it does not know anything, it does not think. Even it did, is it really so cruel to take the life of something that know's nothing except floating in embryolic fluid? If it had friends and a girlfriend and hopes of being a bodybuilder some day that would be different, but the nature of it's life up to the moment of birth is hardly any different than that of a jellyfish.

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You've given me nothing to rethink, I stated that the biological goo that inhabits a woman's womb cannot own anything on the basis that it is not a thinking being, all you've said is that it owns it's own body and I would argue that it cannot own it's own body because "it" is just that, an "it". "It" is not a he nor a she, "It" is simply an "It" until it grows to be something more. Simply because it can become more doesn't mean it IS more.

It is a he or she from the day of conception. From the day it starts development, it knows whether or not it will be a he or a she and what it'll look like. It may not be a noticable male or female, but that doesn't mean that it isn't.

Pro-choice. There are more important issues on this world.

Abortion is necessary. The world would be overpopulated if all the aborted kids were alive.

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As for the baby taking ownership of the mother's body, that's absurd. How can something that's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails own anything?

Your right, it don't own her body. It has it's own body... And it owns that, so for your " it's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails so how can it own anything" theory, rethink it.

You've given me nothing to rethink, I stated that the biological goo that inhabits a woman's womb cannot own anything on the basis that it is not a thinking being, all you've said is that it owns it's own body and I would argue that it cannot own it's own body because "it" is just that, an "it". "It" is not a he nor a she, "It" is simply an "It" until it grows to be something more. Simply because it can become more doesn't mean it IS more.

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As for the baby taking ownership of the mother's body, that's absurd. How can something that's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails own anything?

Your right, it don't own her body. It has it's own body... And it owns that, so for your " it's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails so how can it own anything" theory, rethink it.

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Originally posted by letzBloud:
personaly, i feel that abortions are wrong because they are unnatural & chrildren should get a chance to live. what people dont get is that when a girl gets pregnant, her body isnt "just" hers anymore, it now belongs to both of them.

Who are you to say what's natural? Have you ever eaten processed food? Have you ever drinken the milk of another animal? Have you ever sat mindlessly in front o? a box for hours on end being "entertained".

As for the baby taking ownership of the mother's body, that's absurd. How can something that's no more self-aware than a box of rusty nails own anything?

A women should have a choice of what she does with her own body? All women or just some women? Because saying that all women should have the choice of what she does with her own body actually contradicts the whole abortion should be a choice thing. By saying that abortion is a choice is also saying that only the one's that are chosen to be born have the right. So no, not all women have a choice of what happens to her body.

inner peace. i agree that everyone should choose for themselves and it is not our business.. however i am a strong believer in abortion.
2 quotes:
"a womans body is their own ****ing temple, hell yeah!" jay of jay and silent bob(dogma)
"dont be a fascist, dont like abortion, DONT HAVE ONE!

if u guys dont like abortions, read this, it might change your mind... abortion info

personaly, i feel that abortions are wrong because they are unnatural & chrildren should get a chance to live. what people dont get is that when a girl gets pregnant, her body isnt "just" hers anymore, it now belongs to both of them.

I don't really like the idea of abortions, but I believe even more in peoples right to choose there own fate. If they want to be haunted with the knowledge of letting their child die before he/she ever had a chance to live then thats their decision. I will firmly tell anyone that I don't like it, but will not outright stop then if there choice is made up.