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Originally posted by darksideroyalty:

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Originally posted by aninvertedlove:
Frankly, I think that if you're broadcasting your "addiction to cutting" all over the net, chances are you're doing it for attention. I mean, who else tells people they've never even met before in real life about how tragic their life is?

If you aren't doing it for attention, there's no need to be defensive about it, because we're not talking about you anyways.

Anyways. In the case that you really aren't cutting for attention, why waste time justifying it? Why not just seek some help?

sometimes it is easier to tell people you dont know things like this than to tell people you do know i do it and i always tell someone i dont know its harder to get out if you tell someone that you know even if you trust them i told someone i trusted once and everyone found out but if you dont know the person they cant say guess what you know that person so and so well they cut its better that way

Very true.

And even the people who are doing it for attention...it's a cry for help. My sister's room-mate attempted suicide, and it was a cry for comfort and help, because she felt like she needed comfort, and though it probably wasn't the best option, my sister and her other room-mates never knew that the girl was in need of comfort, and it let them know. From then on, they always took extra care in making sure she was doing okay, and didn't assume anymore.

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Originally posted by aninvertedlove:
Frankly, I think that if you're broadcasting your "addiction to cutting" all over the net, chances are you're doing it for attention. I mean, who else tells people they've never even met before in real life about how tragic their life is?

If you aren't doing it for attention, there's no need to be defensive about it, because we're not talking about you anyways.

Anyways. In the case that you really aren't cutting for attention, why waste time justifying it? Why not just seek some help?

sometimes it is easier to tell people you dont know things like this than to tell people you do know i do it and i always tell someone i dont know its harder to get out if you tell someone that you know even if you trust them i told someone i trusted once and everyone found out but if you dont know the person they cant say guess what you know that person so and so well they cut its better that way

I have been to 2 depression therapists.. both helped me for a little.. then i start again because i get a craving for it.. its so hard to stop.. i really want to.. i do.. my bf is so worried about me.. and i dont want him to be.. but its so addictive.. i cant stop

cutting is an addiction. they can't help what they do or that they need help. it can be very addicting and "finding religion" isn't always a solution to it. people post their addiction to cutting online because it's easier for people to get help online sometimes. some people are very shy and have a hard time talking to people about it in person. people don't cut for attention just because they are tring to get help by posting it online

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Originally posted by aninvertedlove:
Frankly, I think that if you're broadcasting your "addiction to cutting" all over the net, chances are you're doing it for attention. I mean, who else tells people they've never even met before in real life about how tragic their life is?

If you aren't doing it for attention, there's no need to be defensive about it, because we're not talking about you anyways.

Anyways. In the case that you really aren't cutting for attention, why waste time justifying it? Why not just seek some help?

b/c if they don't know you in person then you can't really say anything about them.I mean you can but you wouldn't have the authority to go and tell people and them call that person a freak.Its hard to tell people b/c then they'll tell somebody else so instead of saying that maybe you should put yourself in the cutter's shoes and look at his/her position.And about the seeking help part most people are too ahamed to get help.Think about it.Parent/guardians can look at what you've went to online so that throws the support group online out,they are the only ones that can get you an appointment w/ a sycologist so that is out and about the school counseler(if I spelled that wrong I forgot how to spell it)its out b/c I did that last year and they called my parents so what can you do to get help?

if you're stupid...read a book!

Frankly, I think that if you're broadcasting your "addiction to cutting" all over the net, chances are you're doing it for attention. I mean, who else tells people they've never even met before in real life about how tragic their life is?

If you aren't doing it for attention, there's no need to be defensive about it, because we're not talking about you anyways.

Anyways. In the case that you really aren't cutting for attention, why waste time justifying it? Why not just seek some help?

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Originally posted by bauhaus:
Instead of cutting maybe you should try plucking your p u bic hairs out with tweezers instead. This way you get that pain/rush and youre actually making your body look better! you win and so does your appereance.

plucking is definitely not the same as cutting!!!!!!!!

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I don’t cut because of the pain it gives me. I cut because it makes me forget - by a cutter

I've recently signed up here and started going through this thread yesterday. I've got to say that anyone who claims that any cutter just needs to find God or religion of some form as an answer while stating that [you're all just cutting to get attention. "Oh look at me, I'm cutting myself. Help, oh, help!"] makes me wonder what kind of religion that person might expect me to find faith in. Because honestly i dont want faith in something that teaches people to be so narrow minded and to dismiss people who truly need help. The day i stop wearing long sleaves and pants and allow others to see me, I'll start screaming for help on the outside but until i guess i'll just keep screaming in my head. Perhaps i remain this way out of fear from peeps who just think i'm some sort freak...also i've tried the plucking thing and let me tell you it doesn't work and in fact the comparitive pain to cutting is non existant.

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we couldn’t imagine the emptiness of a creature who put a razor to her wrist and opened her veins, the emptiness and the calm

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Originally posted by clpo13:

[QUOTE]Drugs give you pleasure. How does cutting give you pleasure? [QUOTE]

Yeah true but if a person has too much pain on the inside that they can't let out,they take it out on theirselves so that gives them pleasue b/c it takes away the pain for that moment and for that moment they have no pain and can be happy.

[QUOTE Make what better? I can't imagine anything getting better because of self-mutilation.[QUOTE]

So they can't hurt anybody else.They just hurt themselves b/c of the pain inside.

[QUOTE]They wouldn't need help if they didn't start in the first place.

Most likely somebody starts to see if it helps ease the pain and it does.So they keep doing it until they need thick counseling

if your stupid...read a book!

For me cutting isnt for physical pain...wierd as it sounds it helps my emotional pain...I started cause I was hurt so much then my baby died and it made me feel better but I still blame myself for his death

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How do you get addicted to pain?

it's not getting addicted to the pain, it's an addiction to the "high" (if you will) that one feels after cutting. most people that i know (including myself) cut because they don't want to feel emotional pain. physical pain can sort of cover up strong emotional hurt like depression. for example: when some people have headaches, they press on a pressure point to transfer the pain elsewhere. the same with cutting, it's harder to explain though. it kind of puts your mind in another place.

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They wouldn't need help if they didn't start in the first place.

the help that cutters need is not help for cutting, but for deeper issues like depression. depression is of course an illness. you can't just tell someone who is depressed to feel better, it doesn't work that way. i have stopped cutting but i still want to do it sometimes and i still feel depressed and hopeless, but i have found other ways to deal with it.
hear me out though clpo, i understand your point of view and i agree that cutting is definately a bad way to deal with feelings. i wish that i had not started because it is like an addiction and it's horribly difficult to stop. but, i suppose we all learn from our mistakes, like the fact that i now have to wear pants to the swimming pool. however, i don't believe that it is ok to criticize people because of their desicions, because we have all done stupid things.

My bad. Masochist it is.

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How do you get addicted to pain? Are you some sort of sadomasochist?

It would be just masochist. "Sado" implies you like inflicting pain on other people.

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Drugs give you pleasure. How does cutting give you pleasure?

clpo or whatever your name is; hurting yourself is some people's form of pleasure. No matter how weird it sounds, it's a reality. People find pleasure in different things. Pain can be addicting. Just trust me on this.

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just like you get addicted to drugs you a**hole

Drugs give you pleasure. How does cutting give you pleasure?

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NO thats not true people cut to help make it better

Make what better? I can't imagine anything getting better because of self-mutilation.

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i think that is an unfair dismissal of people who need help

They wouldn't need help if they didn't start in the first place.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Bauhaus, you make me laugh. Thanks.

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cutting is an addiction

How do you get addicted to pain? Are you some sort of sadomasochist? I simply don't understand. Personally, I think you're all just cutting to get attention. "Oh look at me, I'm cutting myself. Help, oh, help!"

just like you get addicted to drugs you a**hole.Just like xxxlivvixxx said some people do cut 4 attention but some people don't want the attention.I know what your thinking when people cut they deserve the attention.NO thats not true people cut to help make it better and when people give them negative attention it makes it worse.If you want to think that fine but when you find out someone is cutting and you make fun of them.And when you turn on the news to find that person killed themself b/c of people like you don't blame me.

if your bored...do something fun.

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I think you're all just cutting to get attention. "Oh look at me, I'm cutting myself. Help, oh, help!"

i have to say some people do cut for attention, but not everyone, i think that is an unfair dismissal of people who need help. People who cut themselves because they are depressed dont go around showing it to people who they dont even trust, i used to cut my self and i never showed anyone because i truley felt i was alone, not because im attention seeking

Bauhaus, you make me laugh. Thanks.

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cutting is an addiction

How do you get addicted to pain? Are you some sort of sadomasochist? I simply don't understand. Personally, I think you're all just cutting to get attention. "Oh look at me, I'm cutting myself. Help, oh, help!"

Im 16 years old and I have been cutting for 2 years...I didnt start cuz evry1 else was doing it...see I was 14 years old and my baby was murdered by his babysitter...and I am now trying to stop cutting and get through the depression and my bipolar...good luck to you

Yo, everyone, don't get so defensive. We're trying to discuss the problem. And don't generalize us either. There are many people on this board who are saying that there are quite a few people who don't cut for trends.