What do you expect from me? I don't tend to be nice, you've seen me before, don't act like you just registered.

As I said, don't expect anyone to truly care over the net. Why? First of all, you can easily be lying. Second, we don't know this person; and it's hard to care for someone you don't know. Third, it's just, repetetive and normal and everyone gets over it. There is an insane number of suicide boards here, why not look for advice on them? There is a sources page on this site, why not search there? Don't try to tell me there's nothing you can do, there are many hotlines, counselors, etc.

If you're truly willing to help your "suicidal" friend, then you tell someone. No, not a classmate, not your sister, you tell a counselor, or a *throws up* (sorry I don't like teachers) teacher.

Also, if your friend is taking the **** from your other friend so seriously, she has self esteem problems that need to be fixed, or feels rather lonely.

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jus because you are older than i am, doesnt give you the right to look down on me

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First of all, learn how to spell. Second, we (as in the older people on the site) have already been through the same thing. Listen to us.

the reason i dont ask anyone in person, is that my frined told me not to tell any one, and i thought tha tsome people would have the heart to give me advice, but i guess that i was wrong, jus because you are older than i am, doesnt give you the right to look down on me. you may think that it isnt a big deal, but guess what....it is to her and me. so if you dont have advice for me, then dont reply to this. yeah it might not be that big of a deal but it is when people are about ready to kill themselfs over it.

Of course. Cutting yourself is wrong. I didin't say that was good. The part that I think is pathetic is the killing herself part. Many kids say they'll suicide but never have the guts to do it, unless it is a true mental-hospital depression type case.

But...it is a problem. whether it's big or small. if someone is self inflicting his/her self, it's a problem...i think so.

I'm not insulting her, I'm giving her a very harsh dose (sp) of the truth. In a few years, she'll likely laugh at this "problem".

Gah, i don't like where this is going..

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may be not to you, but to her and i, it is, and if you dont "think that it is a big deal" then leave it alone, i would rather have someone who acctully care about people other than them selfs.

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If you want people to care, don't ask on the internet, ask people you know face-to-face. You can't expect people to care on the internet. That's just common sense.

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you are basically saying you 0only want people to give sympathy, not their opinions.

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i dont want sympothy, i want advice

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I frankly don't think this is a big problem, just 13 year old angst.

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may be not to you, but to her and i, it is, and if you dont "think that it is a big deal" then leave it alone, i would rather have someone who acctully care about people other than them selfs.

You pointed out she is going through **** from a friend. Friends don't put you through ****, and much less they don't make you want to suicide.

I use my rape as an example of how bad that was, and how simple other problems are. I don't fret over crushes or friends anymore as much, I've realized things can be much worse and tears should be wasted only on them.

I can't sympathize, because I frankly don't think this is a big problem, just 13 year old angst.

And I have to agree with yogore, it's harsh, very harsh, but cutting and/or suiciding for a friend/crush is pathetic and ridiculous. Seriously, things can be worse. As I said, don't waste tears and depressions over it.

thank you, bella and bogey, at least some one gets it. ok maybe she is overreacting, but i cant controll that. so if you would just swollow your pride and be nice and care for some one other than yourself for once, will you please help find something that will help her. i am really sorry about you being raped and every thing, truly i am, but lets focus on someone other than you for once, and y is that when some one disagrees with you, you always use that as a crutch?

Look Yogore, i've always thought you're ideas are good and you've been intellegent, but do you have no empathy? Vin has a problem, and if you don't have anything else to say besides trying to look her down, just don't reply. *sigh*, sometimes i just don't get this place.

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you have no idea what she is going through right now! you have no right to say that at all. she has been going through problems at home to ok??!?!?!?! you cant just freaking sit their and say that **** when you have no idea what is going on! the people that i want some advise form someone that acctually cares and knows how it feels to have a friend or family member going through that. dont even try to judge her.

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you are basically saying you 0only want people to give sympathy, not their opinions.

Don't give any of this "she's going through stuff at home okay??!!?!?!" Everyone goes through things on different scales and you don't know what anyone else has been through.

Seriously, tell her to calm down. And then get her professional help. Cutting and suicide because of a friend is pathetic.

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She's overreacting, I've been trhough worse **** and I'm still breathing and well.

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I agree that she is probably overreacting, but you have to remember that different people react differently. Some people are more tolerant and some are just more fragile. So, Celtic, although you are probably correct on that she is overreacting, you really cannot say for sure. For example, I'm sure what happened to you (you getting raped and becoming pregnant), Celtic, happens to others as well. But, I'm pretty sure that not every one of those girls went through the same thought process as you did. I'm sure many of them reacted and acted differently than you.

I've got to agree with Celtic...you're friend is overreacting, vindi.

What do you mean I don't know what it's like? I was a rape victim at school, I told principals, to have all my friends say it was fault and I just slept with him, then got kicked out of school for it, and you frankly think I've no idea?

She's overreacting, I've been trhough worse **** and I'm still breathing and well. ANd she's 13, what's her problem, her friend kisses her crush or spread rumors about her? Please, unles incest or something as serious is going on, she's going through the same stupid crap all 13 year olds do.

you have no idea what she is going through right now! you have no right to say that at all. she has been going through problems at home to ok??!?!?!?! you cant just freaking sit their and say that **** when you have no idea what is going on! the people that i want some advise form someone that acctually cares and knows how it feels to have a friend or family member going through that. dont even try to judge her.

If she is going to suicide because of another schoolgirl or classmate, slap her in the face and tell her how idiotic she's being. If she's planning on suicide becuase of a friend, she might as well kill herself now why she's at it, because in life nearly all your "friends" will backstab/betray/whatever you. She needs to get her priorities straight and stop worrying over foolish girls.