i want to know why people chose to roll up blunts and smoke for hours. Why people pop pills and say that they need those things to live. i say their just ignorant. Why live intoxicated and drugged all the time. it doesnt do anything but alter the way you see or feel and make you look like an idiot. i can give you the same feeling without any drugs. i can alter the way you see by knocking you out because your wasting your life. And i can change the way you feel by making you cry.
im just tired of all the people my age who have potential to do something, To be something but they dont take that opportunity. instead they just sit and stare at a stop sign because all the corners and the color amuses them.

what do YOU think.

See, this is a reasonable position. Now watch what will happen once the troll comes out.

Truth is, there's always going to be strongly opinionated sides to this debate. What it has become is a debate about ignorance, and lack of respect.

I know first hand it's annoying when someone disagrees with you, but it's THEIR opinion. You don't have to agree, but if you want them to respect your opinion, respect theirs too.


When it comes to the debate of legalizing marijuana, and people using drugs... If it doesn't DIRECTLY affect you, why are you so concerned about other people? No matter what, people are going to live the way that they want, despite opposing positions. "You live and you learn", right?

I wish that everyone was educated on the effects that drugs have and consequences, but its up to the individual to make the decision.

When it comes to the legalization of marijuana, I'm all for it. I'm not saying "yeah legalize it so everyone can be high all the time WOOOO!" I firmly believe strict regulations need to be put on the sale of it, as if it were tobacco or alcohol. Plus, it would do amazing things for the economy.

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Wow. You really are ignorant. It's quite sad. I pity you and all those who have to interact with you and your poor personality skills.

(Despite fixing that, because you imply that "personality skills" alone are tangible and can therefore be interacted with, it still makes no fucking sense. Since when was personality a skill?)

Seriously though, stop changing the subject to focus on my flaws every time I prove you wrong. That is a waste of time, because I do not care even slightly what you think of me.

You're just mad because your "drugs = smarter" theory has failed you time and time again, while the non-drug users of the site continue to win at everything.

Back to the subject at hand:

Smoking pot is dumb, but legalize it anyway. I wanna see more hemp clothing and jewelry.

Wow. You really are ignorant. It's quite sad. I pity you and all those who have to interact with your poor personality skills.

I am a psychonaut. What are you? nothing.

Note: When I post something, I like to reflect the mannerisms of the opposition.

Apparently you are a miserable person who takes everything out on others and has to desperately try to make others just as miserable as you. It's silly.

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with smoking it and it can have benefits.

Noooooo really? [/sarcasm]

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That is the point I was trying to make that you continually contradict and miskew.

I hope you know that miskew isn't even a word. Did you mean miscue? If you did, you used the term incorrectly. Maybe misconstrue? If so, I understand you quite perfectly.

And of course I'm going to contradict you or anyone else who presents evidence similar to yours. It's overblown HORSESHIT. I do support the legalization of pot, but I'm not going to sit here and believe every pro article on marijuana I read. That's just dumb. The "facts" you continue to present without any unbiased professional backing makes your points all the more dubious.

There is a difference between understanding and agreeing. Perhaps you were a bossy child who insisted that if someone did not agree with you they were simply dumber than you.

Excellent way to go about life.

None of this matters. In our life time marijuana will be legalized.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with smoking it and it can have benefits. That is the point I was trying to make that you continually contradict and miskew. I really do enjoy this and I hope you do to. ^.^

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You're implying that those with low education levels are incapable of research. How arrogant of you.

FOR THE LOVE OF SATAN, NO...

Saying someone needs to do research, suggests that they are not as educated in a subject as you wish them to be.

Research leads to Education. They are near synonyms. If you research something, HUZZAH! You just educated yourself. If you don't get that. Then well... You need special education. Seriously.

I am not going explain shit to you anymore. You're an adult. You should have learned this shit in elementary school. It's so freaking simple, the fact that it eludes you, makes me wonder if you're just faking it to piss me off. Everyone else seems to understand me perfectly, except you.

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Definitions can change, words are invented, things change, it's called life, maybe you should get with it.

Thank you for telling me something I already know. Further evidence that you can't read.

However, in order for MJ to NOT be a drug, either God would have to come out of the sky and change the chemical makeup of Marijuana or Scientists would have to tell the public that despite the fact that this plant has all the chemical components that classifies it under the category of "drug" (in the same way Chlorine has all the chemical properties to be called a Halogen), they're just just going to not call it a drug anymore because "it totally grows out of the ground dude durhurudurhur". That's shitty logic, pure and simple. I KNOW words change, but good luck convincing highly educated scientists that MJ should not be a drug. I sure hope you understand that caffeine is a drug...

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You really do need to get over yourself but I don't think that will ever happen because as I have said, I know your type.

It's so weird that you continue to think I give a damn about that. Am I supposed be threatened by this or what?

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Do you hate yourself?

Not at all. I love myself. Every night

You're so silly and contradictory. It's so funny.

Definitions can change, words are invented, things change, it's called life, maybe you should get with it.

You're implying that those with low education levels are incapable of research. How arrogant of you.

Sigh, you are impossible, even you know this already.

lol, another thing I believe was quite foolish of you to say occured in a previous post in this thread. That I parrot ideas and everything I say has already been thought of. Perhaps you have not learned this or understood this, but every idea has already been thought of by everyone. So in reality everyone (yes including yourself) is repeating an idea of the past. The only area where there are new ideas is in the scientific realm.

You really do need to get over yourself but I don't think that will ever happen because as I have said, I know your type. sigh. how unfortunate you hate me.

Do you hate yourself?

Really, if you can not honestly see how research leads to education, or how lack of research = lack of education, then I'm sorry, there's no hope for you.

I think you need to go read books that are not intended for 5th graders and familiarize yourself with all these words and their many uses, because I'm sick of having to explain everything to you and yet you still have no grasp of the English language.

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I get the feeling that you don't understand that definitions are not permanent and can be corrected.

I get the feeling you can't read.

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Jesus tap-dancing Christ...

(Hint: I'm not talking about school when I say education. You can achieve education elsewhere and in a variety of ways, such as, OMG, research.)

I think what your problem is is that you've got your words mixed up, and instead of admitting it, you just pretend everyone else is crazy. Schizophrenic, much?

People are capable of being uneducated and researching something. End of story. So maybe you should look a little more carefully at your own words...

Perhaps you need to criticize yourself then if you only criticize mean people. ^.^ You really don't seem to understand the 'meanest' (and I use that term loosely) I ever am in my life is here on this site and I really don't consider it rude to speak the truth about the world we live in, but perhaps you do, which is why we shall not ever see an end to this.

I get the feeling that you don't understand that definitions are not permanent and can be corrected.

And as I said before, to each his own.

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Research and mental/educational defiencies are two different things. You can have a low iq or have never attended school or even have read a book, but you're still capable of researching a topic.

Jesus tap-dancing Christ...

(Hint: I'm not talking about school when I say education. You can achieve education elsewhere and in a variety of ways, such as, OMG, research.)

I think what your problem is is that you've got your words mixed up, and instead of admitting it, you just pretend everyone else is crazy. Schizophrenic, much?

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You think you know all the answers; it really is funny how you criticize others for knowing things, but then you turn out to be the one who feels they have some sort of extra wisdom in them. Quite silly.

No, I don't. I think I'm quite stupid compared to the great minds of our time. Compared to the average human, not so much.

And I don't criticize people for "knowing things", I criticize people for being dicks. Simple.

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Perhaps you should not call others 'wannabe geniuses' when you in fact are just that. Like I said I know you, I know the real reason why you dislike me, I have you typed. I'm sorry, but I do, there's nothing that can be done about it.

'Kay.

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It is still not a drug. There are people who go out and change definitions everyday because sometimes they need to be changed. I'm sorry you don't understand this, but I don't know how much more explicitly to put it.

I understand that perfectly. But I get the feeling you don't (shocking). Again, when chemicals are involved, definitions are usually very... definite.

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I merely wish for people to go research topics before they run their mouths about it.

Research and mental/educational defiencies are two different things. You can have a low iq or have never attended school or even have read a book, but you're still capable of researching a topic.

You think you know all the answers; it really is funny how you criticize others for knowing things, but then you turn out to be the one who feels they have some sort of extra wisdom in them. Quite silly.

Perhaps you should not call others 'wannabe geniuses' when you in fact are just that. Like I said I know you, I know the real reason why you dislike me, I have you typed. I'm sorry, but I do, there's nothing that can be done about it.

It is still not a drug. There are people who go out and change definitions everyday because sometimes they need to be changed. I'm sorry you don't understand this, but I don't know how much more explicitly to put it.

But w/e to each his own.

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I'm not changing it because I feel like it. Many people know it is simply a plant. You just happen to be on the other side of this argument. It is not a drug, but I don't think you and I will ever agree on that. Plus, definitions change and have changed throughout time.

I don't care what many people know. Those people are obviously retards who have no grasp of biochemistry. (I know I'm being a hypocrite here, no need to point that out)

If the cannabis plant had no THC in it, it would not be a drug. It would then be a simple plant. But, it contains THC, it changes your mood and the way you think (your words), and therefore it is a drug. The chemical properties of marijuana make it a drug. Same with Salvia, Nutmeg, Coca, Hemlock, etc. Something does not have to be synthetized to be a drug. But of course to you, if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's not a duck, it's a bird.

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Well, most conservatives are stupid compared to the rest of the country. As most Americans are stupid compared to other industrialized nations. You need to only look at test scores to see this.

And so you're saying you're just as dumb or dumber? If not, that is what I mean by you implying people aren't as smart as you.

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So when did I ever bring up someone's educational/mental deficiencies? Please do tell.

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I merely wish for people to go research topics before they run their mouths about it.

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lol, I know you sweetie. Whether you like it or not. As I said I have you typed.

If you say so. This is where I stop caring, because it's just getting sad now.

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is a drug. You can not change the definition of a drug because you feel like it.

I'm not changing it because I feel like it. Many people know it is simply a plant. You just happen to be on the other side of this argument. It is not a drug, but I don't think you and I will ever agree on that. Plus, definitions change and have changed throughout time.

Well, most conservatives are stupid compared to the rest of the country. As most Americans are stupid compared to other industrialized nations. You need to only look at test scores to see this.

Soldiers being stupid, is my opinion. What I mean by this is the way they're like "Oh no, I'm getting deployed. How could this have happened?" Well, it happened when you chose to enlist so I don't want to here your namby pamby nonsense. Plus, in basic training, the goal is to break down the men and then rebuild them as soldiers (ie brainwashing) so there's another reason.

So when did I ever bring up someone's educational/mental deficiencies? Please do tell. Or is this just another one of your vast assumptions. (And you know what should be said about assumptions).

I'm not trying to change minds. I merely wish for people to go research topics before they run their mouths about it. People have no idea what evolution is, how the big bang happened or the benefits of certain plants so before they debate me properly about it they need to at least learn both sides. I mean, hell I learn both sides and others should at least have the respect to do the same, rather than go 'blah blah blah'.

lol, I know you sweetie. Whether you like it or not. As I said I have you typed.

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When have I ever said on yn that I am smarter than someone else? Please I would love to see a post where I say "Well, I smoke weed, therefore I am smarter than you." I wouldn't bother looking, because it really would be a waste of your time as I have never said anything remotely like that.

Not in those exact words, no. But you really expect me forget what you've said about Christians and soldiers and Americans in general? Really? When you say those things, you really expect me to believe you're also saying that you're just as dumb or dumber?

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Sure I will correct positions that have been taken from incorrect reasoning.

Good. But there is never a need to bring up someone's educational or mental deficiencies on the matter, unless you wish to be perceived as a stuck up bitch.

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I feel I have to say something when someone is admantly against a topic they do not even understand, but don't we all have this urge? To try and help others become illuminated as well as ourselves?

Yes, I'm doing that now.

And as I have told you, you are not going to accomplish that by being presumptuous. I've changed minds at StormFront.org (a white nationalist forum; I'm black by the way), by being polite and unassuming. It's not difficult I swear.

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So if that somehow means I am 'some wannabe genius who thinks the world should bow at me' then well I am not exactly sure where on earth you get that from. Unless you like me, see many parallels between who you are and who I am and this infuriates you. So you take the qualities about yourself that dislike, because you know you and I really are quite the same and therefore infer that I have some sort of 'bow before me' mantra like you inherently have. Like I said, I know you. lol. I know the real reason for your dislike of me and I will keep it hidden so you will not feel shame or embarassment for your immature short-comings.

No, you do not know me. My mother doesn't even know me. Nice try, though.

If you did know me, you'd flee in either disgust or terror, or both. And I'm tickled pink to think that you think that you are even remotely similar to the "person" that I am.

We are both stubborn in our beliefs, but the similarities stop there.

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You seem to think that I am saying the only way to think is through smoking marijuana. I really do wish you would stop with this. I don't really know how many times I have to say it is an aid.

No, I don't think that. What I am saying is that that is a flimsy argument in support of marijuana, because it isn't necessary. Nor will it affect everyone in that way. If you want people to get aboard the marijuana train, you're going to have to stop using intangible examples and start using rock solid objective evidence.

I'm only playing devil's advocate here, you should be well aware of that by now.

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Lol, you're for responsible drug use. That sickens me. There is no such thing as 'responsible drug use.' There is no proper way to consume crack cocain or crystal meth that is in any way responsible.

Yes, I am. I'm glad that sickens you (I told you, we are no where near alike).

A clever response from a friend: "Irresponsible drug use is to use your neurotransmitters to impose your will upon others."

Anyway, there probably isn't a proper way to use harder drugs, but if someone wants to kill themselves using them, that should be their choice, not the government's.

And for the record: I know you're trying to avoid calling marijuana a drug again. It is a drug. You can not change the definition of a drug because you feel like it. I know you're trying to avoid calling it a drug because you think there is a stigma attached to the word "drug". There is, but you're adding to it by insisting on not acknowledging marijuana as a drug, which it is. And thus subsequently, you further stigmatize marijuana. You can kick and scream until you're blue in the face, but marijuana is a drug is a drug is a drug is a drug.

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I think you really need to calm down and chill. Think about what I said about knowing you as a person. I have you typed my dear.

Yes, I will think about it, as I laugh quietly to myself.

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so you go on the internet to tell people they aren't as smart as you to make yourself feel better.

When have I ever said on yn that I am smarter than someone else? Please I would love to see a post where I say "Well, I smoke weed, therefore I am smarter than you." I wouldn't bother looking, because it really would be a waste of your time as I have never said anything remotely like that. Sure I will correct positions that have been taken from incorrect reasoning. I feel I have to say something when someone is admantly against a topic they do not even understand, but don't we all have this urge? To try and help others become illuminated as well as ourselves? So if that somehow means I am 'some wannabe genius who thinks the world should bow at me' then well I am not exactly sure where on earth you get that from. Unless you like me, see many parallels between who you are and who I am and this infuriates you. So you take the qualities about yourself that dislike, because you know you and I really are quite the same and therefore infer that I have some sort of 'bow before me' mantra like you inherently have. Like I said, I know you. lol. I know the real reason for your dislike of me and I will keep it hidden so you will not feel shame or embarassment for your immature short-comings.

The imagery you provide is pleasant, but is not the perception changing qualities I speak of. Black sands, lightless suns are mere images any and all human imagination's can produce.

When I say your perceptions change I am talking about making observations that you would not normally make if you were in a sober state. For example, everything including abstract ideas and the physical word follow a parabollic path. Not only can you think of this idea, you can visualise it perfectly. You can also come up with amazing ideas for inventions and solutions to problems.

You seem to think that I am saying the only way to think is through smoking marijuana. I really do wish you would stop with this. I don't really know how many times I have to say it is an aid.

Lol, you're for responsible drug use. That sickens me. There is no such thing as 'responsible drug use.' There is no proper way to consume crack cocain or crystal meth that is in any way responsible.

I think you really need to calm down and chill. Think about what I said about knowing you as a person. I have you typed my dear.

Ok, reading back I realize that I was a bit harsh regarding drug usage. Under normal circumstances I am very tolerant and accepting of responsible drug use.

However, the minute wolfie starts speaking all of that goes out the window.

No, you just think you're an oh-so speshul individual with access to information that nobody but you could ever comprehend because your drug use has probably warped your sense of reality. Or you could just be a pathetic human being who lacks the balls to speak their opinion in real life, or no one will listen to you because they think you're borderline retarded, and so you go on the internet to tell people they aren't as smart as you to make yourself feel better.

Personally, I think a combination of the two options more accurate.

Anyway, I've read books that put intense images in my mind and stretched my thought capabilities to the point where I am one of the most open-minded people you could ever meet. I do not believe doing drugs could ever "improve" upon a process that's going fairly smoothly, naturally. Lets also not forget that I am "mentally ill". I do not like to think of it as an illness, but a blessing that few get to experience.

Besides, what on Earth do you even mean by "changing one's perception?" Do you mean dancing in the black sands of Thanatep with Aruhani under a lightless sun (nerdy Wraeththu reference)? Experiencing Synesthesia? Existential solipsism? Seeing other worlds you created clearly with your minds eye? Contemplating the colors of an alternate universe? What?

If you need drugs for all that, things I've pondered since elementary school, you are truly pathetic. You are no where near the caliber of intellect that you think you are. You are just another genius wannabe who thinks the world should bow at the very sight of you, when really you are nothing but another sheep in a sea of billions trying to get ahead. Whether you're at the front of the flock or the back, you're still a sheep. Trying to transcend your lowly status by way of artificial means only makes you look all the more ridiculous.

You are average. There is nothing special about you. What you know many have known long before you were born and you are just repeating it, like a parrot.

So, yeah. That's how I feel about that....

No, you just have no idea and are clueless.

So, not too much out of the ordinary there...

People just don't know what to do with themselves when they are high, but once you discover something to do, it enhances that skill drastically and much more quickly than the average fools.