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Picture of EarthGoddess
Registered: January 15, 2003
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In nowhere near the same way. The only possible way to change one's perception this drastically would be hours of meditation and that is only in a meditative state; this is during an alert state, which can make a difference. What is wrong with relaxing while mind-bending?


I must be super-human then.

Again, picking up a book and/or getting educated is a mind-altering experience. You don't need drugs for that. But if you do, that speaks volumes about your initial state.
Picture of Wolfie
Registered: December 18, 2005
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Again, a flimsy argument for marijuana. Anyone can do that without.


In nowhere near the same way. The only possible way to change one's perception this drastically would be hours of meditation and that is only in a meditative state; this is during an alert state, which can make a difference. What is wrong with relaxing while mind-bending?

And yes, people who obsess over drugs generally do not get anywhere and waste the earth. However, people should be allowed to casually relax on their own terms, especially if it's simply a plant or a light drink...

Bleh, alcoholics, that's just repeatedly poisoning one's liver.


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Picture of DazeddMoreno
Registered: August 29, 2009
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i dont have a problem with it either. But when its 7days a week for almost the whole day to me its just like come on, i Feel the need to slap someone when that is all they do. if its in moderation like every now and then at least least then every single day, Thats perfectly fine. But i think theres a thing as too much also or am i wrong?
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Registered: August 29, 2009
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I understand what your saying and respect what you have to say. I guess im just talking about some people who i know that are really smart but they dont use any of their knowledge towards anything productive. They literally stay home or go somewhere they wont get into trouble at and smoke until they fall asleep or run out, Then they go buy more or drink and drink and drink and drink. not to mention all that x that they take plus oxy. AND all those other pills that gives them the high feeling they so long for. i have no problem towards anyone who does it, Thats their choice not mine but when thats all they do, it bugs me. i wasnt really comparing all those things. i was just using them because that is what those people i know do. They use all of that stuff and more which i probably dont know the names of. But sorry for not explaining all this in the first place.
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Picture of EarthGoddess
Registered: January 15, 2003
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By altering your perceptions in a safe and moderate way, you can learn much about who you are and how people work. You can explore many ideas and see them in an entirely new light. Note that I am only talking about the effects of marijuana, not drugs like alcohol or pills.


Again, a flimsy argument for marijuana. Anyone can do that without.


Personally, I don't have a problem with people doing drugs in moderation, because I strongly support personal freedom. But just as they should have the right to do drugs freely, I should have the right to be critical.

There were many times in my childhood when I couldn't do things with my dad because he would rather smoke weed, so naturally, I'm extremely resentful. So, I can completely understand the intense need to slap someone who smokes weed.
Picture of Wolfie
Registered: December 18, 2005
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First off, people don't smoke for hours unless they have a lot of money to buy marijuana. Generally users smoke for twenty minutes or less.

Plese do not compare popping a pill made by a laboratory to smoking a plant grown in one's backyard. The two are vastly different, as are the consequences of each.

Someone who smokes marijuana occasionally is drugged all the time? So I guess you would say that someone who has a couple drinks here and there is drugged all the time.

By altering your perceptions in a safe and moderate way, you can learn much about who you are and how people work. You can explore many ideas and see them in an entirely new light. Note that I am only talking about the effects of marijuana, not drugs like alcohol or pills.

You really cannot give me the same feeling as marijuana can give me. Most people who become 'knocked out' from drugs are that way because they over-dosed, plus cannabais cannot do this to you no matter how much you smoke/ingest.

There are many idiots out their who choose to abuse marijuana by consuming it everyday and making it their life's main priority. The same can be said of any drug. If someone drinks everyday and all they care about is drinking they will be just as unproductive as other drug users.

However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with smoking some herbs now and then or having some drinks in moderation.

The point I am trying to make is that you should not generalize all users as degenerates who will get no where in life. People have their different ways of relaxing; who cares if they smoke a plant to do this?

Sigh, I really do dislike when people compare chemically created drugs to natural plants.


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Registered: August 29, 2009
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Yeah i know. i think a lot of people are curious but some just do it because everyone else it. i know i was curious but still never done it because i really dont need it..
&They cant escape their whole lives. they just need to find a better way to deal with things.
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Registered: October 15, 2008
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Honestly I used to be the chick who wanted to experiment with drugs such as weed and LSD. I didn't think it was cool but I just wanted to see ow it would make me feel. You will actually be surprised how many people now how drugs will effect them but they will still want to get high anyway.

Also some people may decide to use drugs to escape reality...
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