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Picture of RedAnimalWar
Registered: June 15, 2004
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Some of you researchers may want to check me out on this, but a lot of Merck vaccines have - among other things - pork byproducts and aborted fetal tissue. This is why many Jewish people, or those who (like me) keep kosher diets, refuse vaccines.

Anyone else know of other ingredients we should know about in vaccines?


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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I don't know where you got that first bit, but I have yet to find a source saying phenoxyethanol and antifreeze are the same. Antifreeze is usually ethylene glycol or propylene glycol.


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Havrix
Hepatitis A
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231
produced using formalin, aluminum hydroxide, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), polysorbate 20, residual MRC5 proteins (from medium) medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)


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Synonyms: arosol, dowanol EP, dowanol EPH, emery 6705, ethylene glycol phenyl ether, ethylene glycol monophenyl ether, phenoxetol, phenoxyethanol, rose ether, phenoxyethyl alcohol, 1-hydroxy-2-phenoxyethane, phenylmonoglycol ether, 2-phenoxyethanol, glycol monophenyl ether, beta-hydroxyethyl phenyl ether, various trade names
Uses: Used as a fixative for perfumes, a bactericide (in conjunction with quaternary ammonium compounds), an insect repellent, a topical antiseptic, a solvent for cellulose acetate, dyes, inks and resins, in organic synthesis of plasticizers, in germicides, in pharmaceuticals, in cosmetics and in preservatives.
Molecular formula: C8H10O2
Source: MSDS for 2-phenoxyethanol


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Registered: April 03, 2007
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It's a cure not a damn possibility. And by the anything usually has a waiting list.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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nice word called sharing add it to your vocabulary.


no there's a nice word called "death" add it to your vocabulary, there is no cure for any disease, we can't instantly make you better, that's not how medicine works. If stem cell research produces any "cures" for disease guess what? they'll be more vaccines. so while stem cells likely are being used to research further and better vaccinations why divert all or even the majority of fetal tissue to that? We can save lives right now so why worry about research that can and will take decades no matter how much raw materials they have to work with


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The last time I checked stem cell research is preventing deseases and is finding a cure for them.


right but vaccination works now, instead of having people die while waiting for reseach benefits that will take years to make happen

First of all the government hates anything that can benefit to us. Like the EV for example. Two you cant stop a person from having abortions. So why not let it go to something that can cure it then something you can get vaccinated for but still have a chance of getting. And lastly uhh there's a nice word called sharing add it to your vocabulary.


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Registered: June 17, 2007
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Vaccinations include human aborted fetal tissue as well as antifreeze and cells from other unkosher animals. Check out www.whale.to/vaccines/ingredients1.html
www.vaccination.inoz.com/ingredie.html
and www.relfe.com/vaccine.html re: vaccination myths.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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The last time I checked stem cell research is preventing deseases and is finding a cure for them.


right but vaccination works now, instead of having people die while waiting for reseach benefits that will take years to make happen


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Problem is that the government hates stem cell research. All those dead potential babies and whatnot.


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The last time I checked stem cell research is preventing deseases and is finding a cure for them.


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MUCH better causes


right because preventing disease is so stupid and lame XD


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Picture of VegetarianWithACause
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Then why the hell dont they use it in MUCH better causes like I dont know stemm cel research.


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Registered: August 17, 2001
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I can't be the only one who read that and said "So?"


No, you're just the only one who voiced it.


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I can't be the only one who read that and said "So?"


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I'm still on the fence about whether or not I believe Dauben...

Aborted fetal tissue just seems, I don't know, kind of out there...

I'll look into it, though.


Picture of scienceandhistorynut
Registered: February 25, 2007
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Ok I did not believe you at first till I researched it. You are right shockingly they do use it. If you want to prevent the diseases like rubella.

Here is my site: www.rense.com/general59/vvac.htm


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Picture of VegetarianWithACause
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So is horse hooves are in yogurt, and lime geletin is brains, heated at 750 degrees.


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Oh man, I hope like hell Vegans know that. XD
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rabbit brains are in your local Tetnes shot


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So, Mr. Dauben. Have you a source?


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