I was not sure where to put this thread, in Peer-To-Peer Council or Heath, Sexuality, and Substance Abuse. Obviously I chose the latter.

Anyways the subject is genderqueers. For those who don’t know what it is, basically it is a person who does not feel part of the gender binary (male/female). If you are still confused look here.

My reason for bring it up is I am not sure whether or not genderqueers really exist. I have been thinking about this for a while as I have also been juggling with this feeling that I might be one. The more I think about the more I feel it describes the way I feel. I don’t feel like a girl but neither do I feel Transgendered. For some reason though I keep feeling like there really isn't such a thing.

So my question is this: Do you believe that there could be such thing as a genderqueer?


If you want to give me any advice in this discussion, feel free.

Genderqueer, a somewhat western term for what most folks call Androngyne people. For a lot it's hard, because they want people to use a certain pronoun, and it's not he or her, it's ze. It really has little to do with the "compulsion" to do masculine or feminine things, it has to do with the gender itself. Would it make sense to say that humans should be in their true form, beyond gender? Does the soul have gender? Maybe these people are closer to spiritual enilghtenment than those of us who are stuck in the ruts of gender roles, or who embrace our gender so fiercly we'd do anything to protect it. It's a legit opinion, belief, classification, what have you. Gender is meaning so much less in today's world, even as it is starting to mean more than we ever thought possible. The gender walls are falling down around people and individuals while society is vainly trying to rebuild them. The truth is, it's dissolving, and it's not going to stop anytime soon.

When given the chance, I identify as a transmasculine genderqueer. I do consider genderqueer a valid gender.

I don't think a single person could look at myself or my actions and confidently classify me as either male or female. My face is neither maasculine nor feminine and I wear my hair in braids which can be considered either. My mannerisms can be masculine or feminine depending on how I feel and the company I am with.

In the future I plan to have top surgery (a voluntary masectomy), but I have no interest in having reassignment surgery on my sex organs. I've never felt comfortable with either gender. You can classify me as female, but I hang out with males, bind my chest, wear guys clothing, etc. Classify me as male and you have to address the fact that I like dressing up, gossipping, shopping, etc.

Many people may look at this and think "Guys like to shop too, that's all stereotype." And I guess that's why I identify as genderqueer. I don't believe in a gender binary and I don't feel like a person's actions should soley define his gender. I fully accept the concept of women with beards and men in skirts, however society likes to differentiate between the genders and assign certain attire, attitudes, behavior, etc. as "male" or "female." Because I reflect an even mix of both genders the only valid classification for me is genderqueer.

"gender" doesn't have to do with sex organs.
"sex" has to do with sex organs.

hm... idk. maybe? maybe not the way they describe it... like i always feel like i want to be a guy cuz i like they way they look and talk better. but i think thats just natural (not common, natural) but, hm, talking while looking at things from an outer perspective always changes my mind on things... well i guess i dont believe it then ^^

As far as I'm concerned, if you've got guy parts, you're a guy, and if you've got girl parts, you're a girl. Now, I know it's not that simple, but that's what works for me. We can argue about gender and orientation later.

After rereading that first sentence, I find that it sounds really juvenile and/or prudish. Meh.

I don't really think there's a "genderqueer". And for the record that is a really awful word, I can't take it seriously.

I don't know, I mean I'm a guy, but I don't have a strong compulsion to do "guy" things. I also don't have a compulsion to do "girl" things either. I just am, and I do things that I like to do. Genderqueer, in my opinion, is a non-existant classification that's created by people who are obsessed with making everything about sexual orientation.

I did contribute. She asked for advice and whether or not people thought it possible. I answered both.

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i think this would explain a lot about you dana. if its how you feel how could it be wrong?

Ok. Here's the deal. No one dislikes you because you broke up with one of the members here, I and most others could care less. However, you continuing to bring your little soap opera drama to this site, rather than contributing anything significant is starting to get on my nerves.

Either contribute to the effing topic, or don't say anything at all.

The Goddess has spoken...

i think this would explain a lot about you dana. if its how you feel how could it be wrong?

I'm bumping this because I would like more than one answer.

I believe it's possible to feel neither gender. As gender is really just a name applied to identify two different sexual organs.

I've had times where my gender was not an "issue" to me, meaning I was not faced with female roles or male roles, and felt like I was simply existing. But, I'm not sure that applies to this. And if it does, it could possibly mean I really just secure with who I am or my sexuality.

Anyway, yeah, I think it's possible.