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Registered: March 29, 2002
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Well, I started this post because of the "Breast and Body Image" post that is up right now. And I just want to state something that everyone should agree with. Many people (including myself) have posted replies to that post wit the repsonse it doesn't matter how big they are and everything like that. Then the last post by soccerbeauty said that a guy should like that girl for who she is not for how she looks.

SORRY BUT THAT IS COMPLETELY INCORRECT! Many girls always say that all they want is a guy who like them for who they are not for how good (or bad) they look. But that is not how they are attracted to someone. EVERY PERSON ALIVE IS FIRST ATTRACTED BY SOMEONE'S PHYSICAL APPEARANCE!

Next time you go to the mall or to school or out to dinner, you notice the opposite sex that is good looking because you can't tell how their personality is from looking at them. Now granted if the guy/girl is an @ss then you won't like them, but if theres a not so good looking person, you won't even give them the time of day to even find out if they have that persoanlity that every girl claims to like guys for.

I posted this not to get repsonses, but to let people out there know (especially those of the female gender) that they are only in denial that they are the shallow ones; not the guys who admit that they go after hott women. Its just a fact.

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Registered: December 19, 2002
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I quite enjoy when i see an atractive lady or ladies while going about my daily routine. This is not to say that it is all I would look for but, truth be told, I probably wouldnt walk up and introduce myself to a stranger who wasnt at least decent looking.
I am always waving and smiling at people and lots are friendly and wave or smile back. Some people wont though, especially if the timing is off. Its all about the timing.
Anyways, keep up the good work ladies, your looking good.
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Registered: February 26, 2003
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Teddy, we have a lot in common... Razz Wink Big Grin

Luv Ya'll
Registered: December 29, 2002
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I don't really care for physical attractiveness.

I actually don't notice the opposite sex(Guys), I try to ignore any intereaction with guys, because I'm scared and shy.

Matter of fact, I'm scare of the girls too.
People scare me PERIOD!!!!!!! So I mine my own business

But I do have friends that are girls and friends that are guys. People just talk to me first and we just become friends. I guess they see how of a loner and shy that I am that they feel bad and they try talking to me and I talk back because it's nice that someone kindly notice me and is being really nice to me rather than mess with me and make me cry.

I do have crushes on guys, actually I only had one real crush. I'm telling you, I really mine my own business. I always look down so I won't have no eye contact with anyone. I rarely never talk only with my friends. I don't even have any after school things because I rather be alone and I am scared.

Okay this crush I have, I didn't look at his looks first, I didn't even notice him until he started talking to me and he was so nice, and he did something for me that no guy ever did for me before. That's what made me like him and that's what makes me like other people too.

I really don't care for looks, I'm not picky. I mean c-mon I'm ugly so why would I go after someone else's looks?

Everyone is pretty or handsome to me. Looks don't matter for me.

Bye N Have a nice day
Registered: April 07, 2003
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i think that all of you are missing the big picture. All people are guilty of judging someone by their physical appearance at one time or another. And if you want to deny it...you're only fooling yourself. The whole idea behind being attracted to the opposite sex is to procreate. That's the whole purpose of us being here on earth in the first place. A lot of you are claiming that first impressions don't matter because it is when you discover that person's "true colors" that you are truely attracted...and i couldn't agree more. However, sex is a large part of a relationship, and how are you supposed to share this intimate moment with someone who you can honestly say you don't find physically attractive. Those people that you all know...that are cute...but not in a conventional, "Beautiful People" kind of way...let them be your friends, because their personality is soooo great, and get with someone that is hot!!!
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Registered: March 09, 2002
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This is so not true for everybody. I have lots of friends who I don't consider physically attractive, and there are many people who I do consider physically attractive that don't interest my even before I find out anything about them. I have friends that aren't thin, or wear coke bottle glasses and different clothes. And a lot of the guys I'm interested in aren't the 'pretty' people. I don't like it that everyone assumes just because ideas and feelings come naturally to them that the whole world agrees.
Registered: March 29, 2002
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you are one smart person. i agree with you but the whole arbitrary thing. what ARE we gonna do about it? i have some examples of ways to solve problems.

teens drink - its a known fact. if it was legal to drink do you think more people would do it? NO!

people do drugs. in sweden or some scandinavian country they had a hUGE problem with cocaine. what'd hte government do? legalized it. they SUPPORTED it. they handed out needles and drugs. ya know what happened? the addicts all died from ODs and no one wanted to do it anymore.

my point is that i think that since society is so concerned with people focsuing on the outside in stead of the inside we're gonna d othat and until that changes then we aren't gonna change.
Registered: August 21, 2002
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I was more commenting on your expressed hatred of people in general. But it's beside the point.

We all know that judging people on looks is arbitrary and undeserved. We do it anway.
We've been drilled with it so much and we ourselves pay it so much lip service. It's a nice facade for our "tolerant" youth. The argument goes like this:
"It's sick and WRONG to judge people on what's outside instead of getting to know them and their personality"
"Yea, but you SEE the outside with your eyes, it's what attracts you to them. That's the way it'll be."

It's cynicism versus idealism. The problem is finding out how to change it. The discussion goes in circles. It's useless ( <---cynicism)

Make everyone blind. Follow your bliss, the details will work themselves out.
Registered: August 04, 2002
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I may be a babysitter, but that has nothing to do with it. Guys are of no interest at all to me.
Registered: April 03, 2002
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When you see somebody for the first time, you don't think, 'wow, look at the brains on him'.
You go 'hmmm, he looks good'
Your looks are the first thing you get judged on. Of course, you get to know that person, you might realize he's and @ss, and he won't look so good. Or some one that might not be that attractive, you get to know them well, and they start to look good.
It's what happens to every1. Every1 out there judges people by appearance first. Thats the first part of your first impression. Doesn't mean you're shallow (unless of course, you won't associate w/ a person because he/she .
won't ever make America's 100 most beautiful list)
Lets just use a little common sense here people
Registered: March 29, 2002
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trudat commonsense.
Registered: August 21, 2002
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but you're a babysitter?
Registered: August 04, 2002
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you are all talking about how every one is attracted to someone- I have to disagree- I am a 15 yr. old girl-have never been on a date and am in no way interested in guys.And I am not gay either so that takes out girls too. To be blunt i really don't enjoy being around people that much(other than family or close friends)
LEELEE
Registered: August 06, 2002
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I must say, its reassuring to read some of these replies.. I'm new here to YouthNoise, but: here's the quick info: i'm 18 (male) in about 15 days.. and never once been on a date. Why? Every girl i ever asked out.. said no. I was asked out once, but she was a drug addict and I didnt want to be associated with her.

Anyway, I'm chubby/overweight. Not that good looking either (so i've been told) I blame that, my weight on never going on a date. No one ever took the time to really get to know me. A few people do, but then I become friends with them and its impossiable to go out with them. I've tried everything to loose weight and it just doesnt happen and i've even had the "just learn when to close ur mouth and stop eating" well thats just rude #1 and #2 its not just that.. i just cant loose the weight.. and because of it.. i've never been on 1 date.

And I live in - quoting someone else "new york, where thin is in" and im not thin.
Registered: July 19, 2002
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Like many of you have stated, the first thing a person looks at is appearance. Yet,that is not the only factor that can make someone attractive, I have had a few cases where the guys is not attractive and after I get to know them and the way their mind works...I begin to sing a different tune...though, as a girl, I will admit some of us can be vigorously shallow...
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Registered: August 14, 2001
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Uh, actually Budwurm, I never just go up to a guy and start flirting. One, I'm much too shy for that, and two, I have to start a regular conversation and know someone better until I can flirt (can't flirt with a guy unless I know him). Personality is the biggest factor in starting a relationship for me. Guys with a bad personality are totally unattractive, I don't care how good they may look on the outside!
Also, someone here mentioned that you shouldn't give your real age online. I don't think that's such a good idea. I've had guys who flirted online with me, until they found out I was twenty years younger than them! (I get "But I thought you were at least thirty!" all the time... maybe it's my maturity... big grin ) Location, yeah, that's not good to tell, but you shouldn't join one of the many people who refuse to give their real age online.

Jill
Registered: June 09, 2002
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It's true,we as human beings do judge by appearances at first.
When I first started juniour high I barly had any friends and when I talked to some people in my school I thought they looked ugly or odd.
Well this is ironic....now they're my firends.. ^^;'
Because after I got to know them I started to forget their odd looks.

As for boyfriends...i'd rather make boyfriends over the internet so you know their personalities before their looks,although the internet isn't very safe anfd some of the people lie.It's better to not tell you'r true age and location,unless you've been talking to them for a year or three years. This is just my opinioin,you don't have to follow it.
Registered: March 29, 2002
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redjill - understandable. BUT if you go to the mall and see a not so good-looking guy will you go up and talk to him or flirt with him because it looks like he has a great personality? OF COURSE NOT!

penmagic - exactly what i am trying to say. the not so great guy you have to "TAKE A SECOND LOOK!" thats exactly what i mean. if he was good-looking and he had a great personality like you say you can tell from their walk, then you wouldn't need to give him a second look. you would go for it.
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you people just need to realize what you're saying because all you're doing is helping my side of thew arguement more. you need to realize that no matter what you post on here, you will always know in your head that you judge people on looks, BEFORE perosnality.
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Registered: April 22, 2002
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Yeah, you are right that in the first place it is physical attractiveness which appeals to people, but I will never get a crush on a guy simply because of that.
I like to think I can tell what a lot of people are like just by looking at them- to a certain extent. For instance, if I see a good looking guy and he is strutting or something similar, I will think he is arrogant, and not give him another glance. If I see a less attractive guy, at first I might not be interested, but on a second glance I might think he looks interesting after all.
Not all people are the same with first impressions… but honestly 90% of the time I'm right! I have got an impression of most of my friends at a first glance. I get to know them, I find that my first impression was actually correct! they're never very detailed, but I can usually tell if they're introvert or extrovert, big ego or small ego, friendly or not, superficial or not, flirtatious or not, vindictive or not, just by looking at their body language. I will often find them attractive or not based on this first impression, not, necessarily on how handsome they are.
Mind you, that does help.
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Registered: August 14, 2001
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The last time I had a crush on a guy based on looks was about... 6 years ago! I'm not the kind of girl who likes to check out cute guys. I just cannot be attracted to someone unless I get to know them (which is probably why I always have crushes on guy friends and hardly ever date... ;P ).
I've had HUGE crushes on guys that I first thought were DOG UGLY. But once I got to know them, I started acting all nervous and self-conscious and whatnot... as if they were really hot actors or something. This is because I think that a guy's mind and his personality are the two most important things to me. A cute face and body are just icing on the cake, so to speak. wink

Jill
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