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Picture of uptowngirl904
Registered: December 13, 2002
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many schools across the country are establishing a new policy, often entitled "you show, you go". basically, the policy is stating that once a pregnant girl begins to show, she has to leave school.

i can see both ways on the subject, but overall think it is a terrible policy. public schools are there to give anyone an education, despite physical appearances.

opinions?
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Registered: October 04, 2002
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I think that policy is stupid and although i can see both sides, i think that it's stupid. Everyone should have a right to an education and by not allowing a pregnant teen finish her education, this just increases the "poverty" in our country (I assume you're talking about the US). Also, this can be considered sexist - what happens to the father of the child? Does he get kicked out of school as well? This is totally unfair!!!! You should not stand for that.
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Registered: March 30, 2003
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My school offers a Teen Parent Support class thing- does anyone else's?
I don't think that the girl should be kicked out of school if the father isn't kicked out too. Just because the mom is the one that carries the baby doesn't mean that she made it all on her own!
Registered: April 05, 2003
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I think the girl should be allowed to have private classes, like in in-school suspension.
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Registered: June 13, 2002
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Ok, I think this is totally and completly wrong. I do not agree with teens having sex or anything. IT takes two to dance (or was it tango?). THe girl could not have made it themself. Just because she happens to be blessed/unblessed with the fact that she could have a baby does not mean she should be punished for it. If one is to expel her, then you might as well expel the father as well. This is sexist!
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Registered: December 13, 2002
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i just thought of this whole thing because an episode of boston public briefly touched on it.

what does everyone think of a pregnancy education center (p.e.c)? it's like school, but the only students are pregnant girls. the idea of it, is that the girls can still get an education, with out the pressures of students taunting them, and get support from other girls who know what they are going through.

i think the idea is good, but it's not very common. with budget cuts, it's often not an option, but there are a few non-profit organizations springing up to support them.
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Registered: March 11, 2002
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it is good for the girl so she can take can of her self


So, because a girl's in school and pregnant, she can't take care of herself? That seems rather illogical to me...
Registered: January 26, 2003
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In some ways it is good for the girl so she can take can of her self and save the teasing for something worth it. In other ways it is bad because friends can offer much needed support, a lot of the time not given at home. Also, school keeps you somewhere drug free. If they are not in school that gives them 7 extra hours to do things they should not be doing.
Registered: December 16, 2002
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Personally, I believe that such a policy would be just a little unfair. Granted you have chosen to get pregnant and granted it can be a little distracting for others. However, there is no doubt that it would cause a fail in a grade if there is such a miss in public education. This would make it that much more difficult for the teen mother to be able to get a good paying job out in the real world. I mean, let's face it, there is more and more demand for higher education in order to meet needs every year. So why not give the child a fighting chance and allow her to stay in school for as long as possible?
Mark
Registered: December 03, 2002
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I personally think that is aweful. Its stupid.Thats like saying you can't come to school anymore because your fat or your slow. Why is there so much stupid judgement in this world today? My cousin was pregnant and after she became pregnant she had a desire to learn and make the best out of her school years, I don't think pricipals or the school board should be able to take that freedom of learning from a pregnant girl.Its just wrong!They are casting judgement on these girls! Mad
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Registered: July 08, 2002
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That's all it is. Conservatives say abortion is bad (don't get me wrong; I also thinks it's highly immoral unless it's to save the mother's life), but want policies like this that can only lead to more abortions. And when it comes down to getting an abortion or an expulsion, most girls are going to choose the abortion, whether it's legal/moral or not. Chauvinist pigs who support forcing girls to leave just because their pregnant deserve to be shot (the fact that I actually believe this shows that my strongly feminist mother and girlfriend have both done a good job of educating me in support of their cause). Firing a principal for this would be too lenient. He/she (most likely he, since most women other than nuns would be more understanding) will probably have some money saved, and a loving family for financial support. The firl's life, on the other hand is ruined, along with that of her children, grandchildren, etc. I think that makes execution or at least life imprisonment with solitary confinement (which, considering how fast and painless a lethal injection is, looks to me like a worse thing to experience) a legitimate punsihment.
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Registered: October 13, 2001
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what if the girl WANTED to get pregnant? huh? what then? i know a girl who is pregnant and she's really happy and excited.
I say good for her. Still, is that any reason at all to kick her out of school?


Love, Jenny
Registered: November 01, 2001
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I'm certainly glad my school has no such policy.
Some of my acquaintances have gotten pregnant, and I would have hated to see them kicked out because of that.

My basic belief is this:

There is no right to punish pregnancy by kicking the unfortunate girl out of school. The administration is only making a bigger mess out of her life by kicking her out. Without a high school education, she's basically screwed in the real world, when she attempts to get a job to support herself and her young child.

Peace,

Birdy Cool
Registered: February 05, 2003
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If you want to be in school, you should be allowed to. Denying someone an education because of a mistake they have made or because of a wrong done unto them (rape) is unfair. And if she were raped you're only adding insult to injury. If a girl is forced to leave school for fear that other girls may want to then have sex is ridiculous. Wouldn't having a pregnant girl in class be a reminder of why not to have sex? Or atleast safe sex? Expecting abstinence is expecting too much of curious teenagers.
Registered: January 29, 2003
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I think that once they start to show then they should not come to school but have tutoring from a teacher at home. Then after they have the child they can come back to school. They have to take resonsibilty for what they did but that doesn't mean that they should be exiled to a life of shame. The teachers and students should be there for that person because that person is already going and has gone through so much that they don't need their whole entire school judging her and treating her like trash. We all make mistakes in life. We are human and no one is perfect. So what if we mess up a few times now and again that doesn't mean that we should hate that person for what they did.
Registered: February 09, 2003
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Fire the ****bag! why would'nt he want them in school? because it would'nt be bad for the school, but it would be bad for his rep. so if the principal of the school isn't looking out for the student body's best interest, then he should be fired.
Registered: October 10, 2002
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what if the girl WANTED to get pregnant? huh? what then? i know a girl who is pregnant and she's really happy and excited.
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Registered: December 01, 2002
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the principle behind the rule is that you shouldn't have sex, right? so the rule should be if you have sex at all, you have to leave school. (which is complete bull.) maybe she did use birth control, but it's still not 100% effective. just because she was unlucky enough to get pregnant, out of the many others that didn't, why should she be punished? oh, and if they really want to follow through, they should do biological tests to find out who the father is, and kick him out too. (when it's really none of their business anyway)

Basically what i'm saying is that the whole system is flawed, and if they really want to do something about teens having sex or getting pregnant, then they should educate them on protection rather than doing the opposite and kicking them out instead.

just a thought.

Peace out,
~Candybuster526
Registered: December 11, 2002
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I know many schools in my area have programs set up for girls if they want to have the child and stay in school. They are mostly Catholic schools who believe in abstinance. However,I cannot speak for public schools. Most pregnant teen moms are going through so much that they can't finish school. They are allowed to come back and/or have a tutor come help them at home. I do not agree with the policy school officials are setting with this new program. If they wish to cut down on teen pregnances, they should invest in abstinance programs to show the students.
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Registered: January 04, 2003
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leave school? it's so bad. Pregnant girls must have the right to finish school. well, they have sex and they don't want to leave the baby. So if they couldn't get a good education, what would they do to earn enough money for themself and the child? The policy is not a proper way to prevent girls having sex.
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