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Picture of 3rdeyecure
Registered: June 27, 2004
Posts: 210
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What do you think makes a person weak?

I think if someone harms their body in any way then they are weak. This includes drugs, harming yourself, unprotected sex, over or under eating, never exercising, never trying in school, never following your dreams, lying, cheating, being violent, slandering someones name, being ignorant, being close-minded. However you are even weaker in my eyes if you know you do these things and you are not trying to help yourself...

-e
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Registered: April 01, 2004
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I think it's just lovely that you started this entire topic with a question, yet you build a defense against anyone who answers it with something not listed in your own answer.

Good job. Really.


God damn the black night, with all of it's foul temptations....
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Registered: February 01, 2004
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actually if some hurts themselves etc...they could be depressed and most of the time a person doesnt know it, so they have no way of helping themselves. thats y people help them. Hospitals, meds, therapist etc... If this is so then there not exactly weak they just dont know any better.
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Registered: June 09, 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by clpo13:
What makes someone weak? Thinking they are weak.

What definies someone as weak? Giving up.

It's as simple as that.


Wow, i totally agree. I was talking with ym boyfriend the other day and he aid almost the same thing.. that he thinks i was 'weak' before because i didnt like myself and because i felt like i didnt have a strong support system. Maybe having a support system can help someone feel stronger becuase they know they have someone to run too.. anyone agree?


I love you moer than life. And i mean that.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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What makes someone weak? Thinking they are weak.

What definies someone as weak? Giving up.

It's as simple as that.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: August 09, 2005
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um well personally i think that hurting yourself is weakness... it is emotional weakness. i feel that someone who harms themselves is weak because they do not know how to deal with all the pain or stress that is going on in their lives. i understand that for some people it is an outlet for their emotions, but i think that there is always a better way to deal with it. and i am talking from experience too, a few years ago my parents separated and even though i agreed with them and was sort of thankful for it, it was still a really hard time in my life... i not only had the stress of the problems in my family life, but i also had to deal with keeping up my grades in school and staying focused on my competitive gymnastics career. to help me deal with my pain i talked to a few people and now i keep a journal... im not saying that it works for everyone, but i TRULY believe that when people hurt themselves they are weak and especially when it comes to the point of suicide it is cowardly.
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Registered: December 06, 2004
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I don't think harming yourself makes you weak necessarily. I used to cut my self off and on in an almost existentialism view point that I could control and manage pain that I or someone else brought upon me. I would get bloodlust sometimes but that didn't make me weak. I think what makes a person weak is when they label themselves as a cutter or take on the identity of something they do and that's all they are to themselves. They never try to be something else, they just stay in that mold of what they've identified themselves as.
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Registered: May 15, 2005
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It depends on what type. Physical weakness can range from genetics to just not working out. Nothing you can do there with genes. But if you mean mental, that's all mind power. If you continue to say "I cant do this" or "No one likes me", you'll find yourself in that category, which i dip into now and then. Meditation, studying philosophy and reading quotes or other inspirations by those who have a greater knowledge can strenghten it.


It is essential that justice be done, and it is equally vital that justice not be confused with revenge, for the two are wholly different. OSCAR ARIA
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Registered: June 27, 2004
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It seems as though many of you are pretending that I think my views of weakness are fact...

How interesting...

Personally... I do not really care if you think I am weak... it is your opinion.... weakness and beauty and hate are all in the eye of the beholder.

I really hate to tell you this but you may be surprised that there is no universal weakness or hate or love or beauty. Sorry if I shattered all of your knowledge of the world.

I do not think you do not know this already it's just you were making such a convincing impression of it..

Oh I love you all. I just hope you love and die happily.

-e
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Registered: February 26, 2005
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I know people who have done some of these things, and while many of these things are bad, doing them does not make you weak. You're weak when you see something and you don't try and fix it...

Many of the people who do these things do not know what else to do. Many of these people try and fix it, but it controls their lives and it's power is strong on them. Many of these people wish that they hadn't started, but that doesn't change the past.

Shoving these thoughts off of your mind and simply grouping them: That is weakness.


"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." -Mahatma Gandhi
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Registered: August 20, 2005
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i do drugs all the time and that doesnt make me weak.


I just keep it real.
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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I didn't call 3rd a liar.



I said opposite of hypocrite not liar .

Your last post actually explains why you think that . Props to you atleast youve taken the opposite direction .


I'll sleep when im dead .
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Registered: June 27, 2004
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Umm... i know why ppl do those things. My dad was an alcoholic, my mom had unprotected sex (im the result). my boyfriend lived in the worst part of chicago was addicted to crack and took lsd regularly and stole, my best friend would cut herself daily (one time i had to call the cops to stop her from killing herself. she was escorted away) Also i had to deal with her being arrested. she ended up in rehab.

just because i consider those things weak doesn't mean i don't know about them or why people do those things. don't assume what you don't know. im not assuming things when i say people are weak, its just my opinion. other people who are saying i don't know the reasoning behind these things are just assuming that.

keep the love and peace

-e
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Registered: July 31, 2003
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I also agree with wwfwagp, if you knew why some people do these things you wouldn't be saying that. I agree that no one should use drugs under any circumstances and all that but...it's not as easy as you make it sound. What if some of these ppl have grown up with parents that used drugs all the time? And they didn't get "educated" about drugs? They don't know any better, I don't think they are "weak". I think you really just need to see why ppl do these things, and after you do, put yourself in their position, really think about it, and then comment.

-Serena
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Registered: June 27, 2004
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Hey, some of the things aren't that simple, some are... i know many smokers who have quit...

how the hell am i close-minded? just because something is a common trait does that make it right? that's like saying "alrighty its okay for me to do some drugs because other people do them" all i am saying is that people should take better care of themselves because usually you'll be happier. sorry if that means i'm "ignorant"

Its never okay to do drugs unless for medical reasons... i don't care if its social or an escape or what. it is NEVER good.

Maybe some of you people don't like this post because you are reminded of yourself. Sorry, but I'm not targeting specifics if it looks like that. Basically i think humans in general are weak. we have so much potential and yet we don't do as much as we could with it.

-e
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Registered: October 23, 2004
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I think you have been a little harsh here. And some of things that you describe as weakness are, in my opinion, just things people do. For example, people who drink or do soft drugs socially, not as an escape for reality, well thats just their way of having fun, and while it may not be agreeable to you it is not their weakness.

I agree that someone is weak if they know what they are doing to themselves and they make no attempt to stop it, but to me weakness is less about activities people do and more aobut things like their strenght of mind, ability to stand up for what they believe in and not bend to others under pressure.
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Registered: April 01, 2004
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Originally posted by nikky2rock:
I Think 3rd is being the opposite of a hypocrite actually . Those habits are weak . Whats wrong with saying that ?


I didn't call 3rd a liar.


God damn the black night, with all of it's foul temptations....
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Registered: September 06, 2003
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American Heritage Dictionary:
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2. Likely to fail under pressure, stress, or strain; lacking resistance: a weak link in a chain. 3. Lacking firmness of character or strength of will.


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Let's say someone is a smoker.... they are hurting and therefore weakening themeselves. they could always quit.


Circumstantially you can't sum up that all smokers are weak and don't quit because they are too weak to do so. What if they don't want to quit? How would that be showing weakness?

Celtic I wince at your icon.


"Fu*k me gently with a chainsaw" -Heather
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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I Think 3rd is being the opposite of a hypocrite actually . Those habits are weak . Whats wrong with saying that ?


I'll sleep when im dead .
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Registered: April 01, 2004
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You do realize, of course, that by calling all of these common traits forms of weakness, that you yourself are being close-minded and ignorant? If you can't bring yourself to research some of these things, and figure out why people do them, but rather you just write them off as "weak," you are making yourself that much more of a hypocrite.


God damn the black night, with all of it's foul temptations....
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