Okay, before you start ranting on to me about what i'm saying wrong, here me out.

Yes, i know, suicide, depression, and cutting are MAJOR MAJOR subjects. But it seems it's become to much of a trend, people will convince theirselves that their depressed for the pettiest reasons to get attention. Not everyone is a victim, although they may seem. Remember that. Nonetheless, many people have legitimate reasons for that. Not meaning they should, it's just that there IS some actually pain going on. Some people just do it or SAY they do it for attention. But not everyone. What do you think?

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. But I was really saying that some of the people on this board should not be contributing if they don't know what they're talking about. And it's pretty obvious that some of you don't.

Some of this stuff you people are saying has to stop because I was (and kind of still am) a cutter, and so are 7 other people i know just in my grade and my school alone, i am not just going to blurt out the reasons why i cut, or anyone else, but i will tell you we all have reason and they all are good ones too. If you wanna know some of the reasons contact me.

<puking noises here>

Oy, everybody. I think I'm getting bulimic to this thread.

<puking noises again>

BELLA:

quote:

---

There was a girl who told everyone including herself that she was depressed and claimed she was a cutter. When she was drawing her crushes name in her arm with hearts and stars.

---

Oi.
1: whether or not you know if she actually believed herself to be depressed is the issue, not that she told everyone she was. Aye, she could be masquerading as a depressed person, but you do not know what she believed, and if she was lying, you could not trust her words anyway.
2: Did she cut on her body? She was a cutter. She may have done it for the stupidest reasons, but she still did it, and that has the horrible potential to get nasty.
3: I understand they do it for attention most of the time, and don't misuse or misunderstand my words by thinking I defend or condone that. I assure you; I do not. I am arguing a very basic fact that you seem to be overlooking with your examples. Unless you yourself have convinced yourself that you are depressed, I do not believe it. Whether or not someone convinces anyone else of it is their problem and is not my concern in this debate.

quote:

---

Originally posted by Maya:

quote:

---

Originally posted by bella123:
DWM, i'm just making a point. Let me describe one more time. People tell themselves that they are depressed, although they are not. I will make another point you failed to regognize when you told me to make a point. There was a girl who told everyone including herself that she was depressed and claimed she was a cutter. When she was drawing her crushes name in her arm with hearts and stars.

---

Don't you think it means they have a bigger problem if they do all that...they really must need the attention I think...

---

I agree. This is pretty much what I was getting at if u sum up my last reply.

quote:

---

Originally posted by bella123:
DWM, i'm just making a point. Let me describe one more time. People tell themselves that they are depressed, although they are not. I will make another point you failed to regognize when you told me to make a point. There was a girl who told everyone including herself that she was depressed and claimed she was a cutter. When she was drawing her crushes name in her arm with hearts and stars.

---

Don't you think it means they have a bigger problem if they do all that...they really must need the attention I think...

Yeah, another one of these things.

DWM, i'm just making a point. Let me describe one more time. People tell themselves that they are depressed, although they are not. I will make another point you failed to regognize when you told me to make a point. There was a girl who told everyone including herself that she was depressed and claimed she was a cutter. When she was drawing her crushes name in her arm with hearts and stars.

5 posts in a year and a half? I don't know if I could...

i actually agree with all of you. people are too easily medicated and some people cut for attention but that doesn't mean that we should automatcally write them off. it's very important to pay attention to them but sometimes that attention has to have disproval in it to bring out progress...make sense?

yogore, I don't think that was the debate. Of course you can convince other people. You can convince other people of anything if you're good enough.

Yeah, that's true. But that's why I don't really like the overuse of/overreliance on drugs in America these days. Most of the time, people could recover from depression with psychotherapy. Antibiotics oftern create "superbugs", so then we have to create "superdrugs", but that's all off topic...

But you can convince others that you are depressed.

Then here's a point I'd like to make to you: My name is "freeDOMordeath". There is no "e" after the or, either.

Aye, if they pretend, of course they're not depressed. I'm not defending every teen that has a mild case of the blues. I'm saying, however, that it is impossible to convince yourself you're depressed. If you're a hypochondriac, however, that is another story.

DWN, there are many people who really are depressed, but there are also some who pretend to be depressed. Some people who call themselves depressed do not have a chemical inbalance.

Bella, you can not convince yourself you're depressed! It is a genetic brain funcion or disfunction or whatever. If your personfriend cuts, she is a cutter. There's no denying that. Give me proof--case study--that you can convince yourself you are depressed. Until then, I stand by that it is not possible.

Suicide: A trend or some, a serious problem for others. Trend or not, it kills people.

Depression: A brain "disorder" if you will. Not choosable. There are different forms such as manic depressive, seasonal and clinical depression.

Cutting and Self Injury: Mostly done for attention. If one shows someone else their scars or injuries, assume they are doing it for attention. Depending on the manner in which they are shown, the person could be asking for some serious help. Other reasons people might self injure: for the pain, for the attention (duh), for the blood, for the euphoric feeling, for the lightheadedness, to release pain&energy, revenge. Really, the possibilities are endless.

I don't know what's going on,on this thread so I'll just give my opinion on the subject. Not everything is done for attention like Bella said but those that DO do it for attention probably just feel that there isn't anyone that truly cares. Saying things about killing themselfs and seeing everyones reactions just shows who all DOES care about them. That's all they need to know is that people care for them and do love them. We often neglect those that matter most to us. Everyone deserves to know how special they are. Some people always know, just need reminded.

How am I targeting anyone, Bella? I simply stated that people who cut to get attention are getting it.