True Euterpe.

And I really don't have a life experiance that would make me gay. I was never raped or molested no one except those lovely homophobes have treated me wrong.

You know this reminds me of the movie But I'm A Cheerleader. Where they all had to find their "root". Heh. That movie was funny.

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On another note, I don't think it’s important if I was born gay or my life experiences made me gay. The only important issue is that I didn't choose to be gay.

That's a dangerous line to cross. Because 'life experiences' can be misconstrued by the anti-gay rights militia and even stricter, more inflexible laws can be placed on adult gays adopting, etc.

It's very important to make sure that ALL people understand that life experiences cannot make you gay OR straight. It's a natural, developed-in-the-womb characteristic.

And of course you can know you're gay at 15. I knew I was bisexual at 13. LTR's right -- it all matters on when puberty hit.

Hell, I am just fourteen and I just figured it out.

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15 year olds aren't gay they just think they are.

Emotions, such as crushes, love, ect, begin at puberty. Puberty can begin as early as the age of nine. I too am 15. I really don't care if you believe me but please Rugar, mark my words. I am gay and you, my dear Rugar, are a patronizing bigot.


On another note, I don't think it’s important if I was born gay or my life experiences made me gay. The only important issue is that I didn't choose to be gay.

Exactly. And blue never had to go, "Today, I'm going to choose whether to be straight or gay for the rest of my life." She just knew.

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15 year olds aren't gay they just think they are.

I was pretty damn sure that I was straight at 15. Same difference.

Aww, like 8 pages ago Celtic made this post:

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you cant say adam and eve is an example because not only do not all people are christian, but because there is no proof they never exsited. and they probably didnt.

Just 6 pages later...

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Eve and Adam are as real as the tooth fairy.

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Matthew Shepard was a young gay man that was brutally beaten and left to die by ignorant assholes.

I still get upset over this, every single time I visit the website. The ignorance sickens me.

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Think I've heard of Matthew Shepard, but don't have a clue to who he is. I'm being for real.
Can you please help me out?

Matthew Shepard was a young gay man that was brutally beaten and left to die by ignorant assholes. http://www.matthewsplace.com/mattslife.htm

How could someone choose to be gay after knowing that there are people like this out there?

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If you read the KJV Bible you'll find this stuff ine there.

I used to be Christian. I know this stuff.

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It's cause they choose to, just as I choose to not run with the world.

You're really making me angry. I have a very close gay friend. He told me about his life. I met his gay friends. I got to know them. I learned about them. He told me he didn't choose to be gay. He looked me in the eye and with a straight face and tears in his eyes, told me he never chose to be gay. I love him very much, and I believe him wholeheartedly, because he has no reason at all to lie to me.

Now, you said all that bullshit, but you still didn't answer my questions.

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Why would someone choose to be hated, discriminated, and threatened? Huh? Why can't any of you morons ever answer that?? Ever heard of Matthew Shepard? Why would any sane human being choose to be gay after that?

Think I've heard of Matthew Shepard, but don't have a clue to who he is. I'm being for real.
Can you please help me out?

They would choose the same reason I choose not to cut my hair, wear pants or shorts, not to curse, to let a man rule over me, and lots more on that line. If you read the KJV Bible you'll find this stuff ine there.

It's cause they choose to, just as I choose to not run with the world.

We came from a common ancestor, much like Australopithecus. Chimps and Gorillas, branched off and became what they are today, we branched off and became what we are today. Genetically, we are more similar to chimpanzees, than a Horse is to a Donkey.

Anyway, answer my questions, since you know everything about gay people.

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Why would someone choose to be hated, discriminated, and threatened? Huh? Why can't any of you morons ever answer that?? Ever heard of Matthew Shepard? Why would any sane human being choose to be gay after that?

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If we come from primates why are they still running around?

1. You obviously don't understand the concept. We do not come from primapes. Primates and humans share a common ancestor.
2. This si not the thread for that. here we're talking about being born gay.

If we come from primates why are they still running around?

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Do not come to YN if you're not willing to learn anything

You don't even have to learn. Just don't come to YN unless you plan on actually debating. This right here does not constitute a debate. What are you doing here if the purpose is not for debate?

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We don't come from primates and I still don't think he's gay.

YES WE DID RETARD. You can think whatever you frickin' want, because obviously, you don't think very well. You're inept. A moron. Slow. An idiot. Stupid. Simpleminded. Dull. Dense. Witless. An Oaf. You have the intelligence of a 3 year old. You don't listen. You refuse to listen. Do not come to YN if you're not willing to learn anything.

Just stop talking, please. Nothing you say is worth listening to. Do us all a favor:

http://www.realknots.com/knots/noose.htm

You don't have to believe me. I know who I am and if you have a problem believing that, it's your problem, not mine.

Proof for your statements, please.

I still don't think you gay.
15 year olds aren't gay they just think they are.

You can't say something without backing it up. You're almost 21, clearly you should know this by now.

nice attempt at trying to get a rise out of people. It didn't work.

We don't come from primates and I still don't think he's gay.

Rugar, you are like the most idiotic dipshit in the whole fucking world. You are the lowest of the lower primates.

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I know that I'm not that old in a couple of years I'll be 21, but I do know some stuff.

You don't know jack shit. Either shut up or show us some fucking proof. Actually, don't waste your time, because there is none. You base all of your arguments on what other people say, which is stupid as all hell. You're not gay, so you cannot assume what gay people are like or whether they chose to be gay or not.

Why would someone choose to be hated, discriminated, and threatened? Huh? Why can't any of you morons ever answer that?? Ever heard of Matthew Shepard? Why would any sane human being choose to be gay after that? Answer me. And you better convince me that it is a choice. Don't say "it just is", because that's retarded and it'll only make me madder.