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I am sorry, but I don't believe you.

Have I given you a reason to not believe what I say?


You attempted to make me look like I don't know what's going on, but you failed. you were wrong on many counts.
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You are just really starting highschool.

Mistake number 1. I am finishing up highschool, actually.
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The girls and guys at your school are still doing the he say she say stuff, he likes me she likes me stuff.

Becuase you've met the kids at my school? There is none of this he said she said.
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You are only 15, I can see if you were 20 something trying to tell me that you are gay I might believe you

Age only comes into play here because you obviously cannot defend your ideas without attacking anything that you think is fair game. I'm not your average 15 year old evidently as you had even assumed that I was older.

i am pretty confident that you knew you liked girls from early on and the case is no different, homosexual or heterosexual.

However, in your post you have done nothing but attck me, which is not debating. you did not defend your points at all.

I reiterate what I said. Come back and actually defend your points.

ok yogore.

You are 15. I thought that you were something like 20, but 15 and you're trying to tell me that you are gay. I am sorry, but I don't believe you.

You are just really starting highschool. The girls and guys at your school are still doing the he say she say stuff, he likes me she likes me stuff.

You are only 15, I can see if you were 20 something trying to tell me that you are gay I might believe you, but you are still a little kid not even old enough to know what being gay really is. Your emotions or hormones are still running crazy.

I know that I'm not that old in a couple of years I'll be 21, but I do know some stuff.

Not liking girls is something all my nephews do and my oldest nephew is 8 and the youngest is 1 week. I understand if they don't like girls and just want to be around boys.

Rugar, please respons the the counter points that ahve been made. This is a debate website, I expect you to hold up and defend your side of the debate.

I can honestly say I never made the decision to be attracted to the same sex. But it is like one day you suddenly realize, holy shit. And then as you look back, you realize all the little things that would've been indicators that you just completely ignored.

Are you gay/lesbian/bi? Then how should you know if they choose or not? I've only met one person who said he chose to be straight, and that was just because he was losing a gay marriage debate with me.

Because you do.

Telling people to shut up is not the answer. Let's encourage some debate. And let's not pick too harshly on grammar, Love, No one's perfect

I think very often people give opinions on things they haven't experianced first hand, but the basis of the opinion is what needs to be looked at. i would be interested to hear what has lead you to the conclution that someone chooses to be gay, ruagr and regular.

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Originally posted by rugar:
I don't think that you are born gay.

I think it's just something people want to try and then they say that they were born that way.
That everyone have to except them for who they are and that they can't help it.

It's kind of like what my sister said onetime. I asked her that is it true that when your pregnant you get weird cravings, I mean like cravings for pickles and ice cream kind of cravings. She said "No, it's just that people want to really try it and so when they get pregnant they can and nobody will saying thing to them about it"

Just shut up Rugar.

You not gay so you wouldn't know if you were born that way or not.

Tell me one time you had to choose between being gay or straight

And people don't always tell the truth. You can't trust all of them. You also can't form opinions without experience.

And in your post is has and say not have and saying

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There's not a gene or something that will be able to predict if you'll like or a girl.

You don't know that. It is a possibility.

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It's kind of like what my sister said onetime.

You've shown no basis for why your sister is crediable and should be listened to. just because your sister decides to say something doesn't make it true.

I sincerely hope your sister was kidding. Pregnancy cravings are hormonal, indicative of deficiencies our maternal bodies are now more keenly aware of, richer blood supply to taste buds, and the different breakdown of foods.

Along with that, you have "aversions" during which women will be almost nauseated by certain foods. This is largely psycholgical, I think.

Being homosexual/bisexual/heterosexual/pansexual happens inside the womb. All external influences can do is either supress them or encourage them. Either way, the desires are there just as strong as someone's taste in hair color, body shape, etc.

I don't think that you are born gay.

I think it's just something people want to try and then they say that they were born that way.
That everyone have to except them for who they are and that they can't help it.

It's kind of like what my sister said onetime. I asked her that is it true that when your pregnant you get weird cravings, I mean like cravings for pickles and ice cream kind of cravings. She said "No, it's just that people want to really try it and so when they get pregnant they can and nobody will saying thing to them about it"

All I was trying to say is that there isn't a way to tell if you'll like a guy or a girl after you're born. It's just who you're atracted to. There's not a gene or something that will be able to predict if you'll like or a girl. It's just nature.

that's all I was trying to say.

I still maintain that discovering that you're bisexual is MUCH more confusing than discovering you're gay.

I don't know how I became bi. I just started liking one of my best friends and that is when I figured it out.

Lol, um, sometimes it's a combination of the two.

Like on The Gauntlet 2 when someone went, "Are ya gay, are ya straight, or are ya just greedy?"

I find it easiest to think of this topic in this respect: Some people dont like brussel sprouts. I would just happen to be one of those people. Now some people, on the other hand, just love them. Why is this? Everyone has their own built-in set of personal preferences. It's the same when it comes to which gender that you happen to appreciate more when it comes to your own sexual feelings. Then there are even those who like both equally, though I tend to just think of those as people who really, really like sex. lol

I just posted my favorite picture thingy that relates to this topic, so now I'm waiting for it to get approved.

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You're a certain sexual orientation by birth, but you accept and are proud of yourself by choice.

I love you honey...

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It's stupid to think that if you date a person of your sex that you're called gay.

I'd say that's a pretty good indication that your gay or definately questioning your sexuality...so therefore probably gay.

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Whether you like a guy or a girl, is your choice.

I don't think so. I have never suddenly woken up one morning and said "Hey, I'm going to like girls." Likewise, I never chose to be straight. I just am attracted to guys. I never made that decision, though.

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I think people who date both guys and girls people prove that you can't be born gay.

But you see, I'm not attracted to other girls. The idea of kissing another girl just grosses me out. I would expect that a lesbian would be equally repulsed by the idea of kissing a boy.