CAN YOU BE BORN GAY???
LOL!!
This is the most ridiculus topic being discused on the boards! OF COURSE people aren't born gay! Are people born appreciating art? Appreciating science? Are people born wanting to steal? Wanting to kill? Wanting to help? Of course not! When a child is born, they are pure, innocent and completely oblivious to the outside world. Who they are destined to love and have sexual tendencies to is determined by their childhood. Throughout a child's upbringing they may see or feel certain things that may make them want to appreciate certain things, make them have the tendency to kill, make them have the tendency to help, or even make them pysically and emotionally atracted to the same gender as themselves. No, people don't choose to be gay, but it is a part of who they have become through the many years of their rearing. And once someone has become a certain way, or developed certain characteristics, it is very hard to change them; especially if these traits were developed from childhood.
----SugarVanillla has spoken----

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Well its amazing that people choose to be christians in countries that slauter them. Everyone knows people arent born christian, they make the choice and some of them die. I think gay people do the same thing, except their choice isn't the best one...

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I was sorta born Christian. That's the religion that I was brought up with in my home. It's something I believe. I think, even if I wanted to switch religions, it'd be very difficult and I'd probably never lose some of the beliefs and faith that I found in Christianity. It's different to die for a higher power than it is to die for being gay. If you believe in dying for a higher power, then you believe that you'll be going to heaven (in the case of Christianity). But I can't fathom that anyone in a country with such strict laws, would choose to be gay. There is no way I'd ever die due to the fact that I am straight. If it was as simple as choosing and choosing to be gay would save my life, I would do that. But it's not as simple as choosing. The only difference between being gay and being straight is who you sleep with. All the same feelings are there, both the people are still human, etc. The only difference is sex. Would you die to have sex with someone of the same sex if you could choose otherwise? No. No one would.

It's not a choice. No one wakes up one day and says, "Well, I think I'll be gay today." It's an attraction that you're born with, just like being straight. The argument everyone always uses is, "But some people don't realize they're gay until later on in life, so how can they have been born that way?" Most people who are straight, don't realize sexual attraction until later on in life either. I mean, throughout most of elementary school, you don't really have boyfriends or girlfriends or any type of real physical attraction because your hormones haven't kicked in yet. The same goes for gay people. They don't realize their attractions until puberty hits and their hormones kick in.

And for anyone who is using the Bible---those verses come from Leviticus, a book that was written solely for the purpose of giving laws to the Hebrew people during their forty year trek. They are ancient laws and others that were used (not just the one concerning homosexuals) are not used today as well. I'll post more on this later, as I intend to make a thread about Leviticus.

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If people were suppose to be gay they would have been made to reproduce either way. If you look at the way we as humans and even other mammals reproduce there is no way that another human can come out of a homosexual relationship

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Oo, good point. About the adoption thing, there are lots of straight people wanting to adopt. Unforutunately the adoption system is jacked.

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Want to know why i think people aren't "born gay?" The simple answer is your not born in love. Your not born wanting to love someone. (besides your family; but thats a different kind of love) I personally think that all people were meant to love the opposite sex.I find that most gay people are either renagades (only a few), confused about friendship and love, or just want to be loved by anyone. The last to seem to be most of the cases. Don't get me wrong its not just gay people going for any relationship out there. Alot of other people do it to. Well thats all i have to say, bye.

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either youre really ignorant, or you were just stupid the moment you wrote that bull****.

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Hmm thats very interesting. What do you mean?cursing and ect isn't going to help me see your point of view so why don't you explain instead of whimping out and calling what i said bull?

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to all of you who said all people who are gay, are born that way i say this: How come some people realize their error and become straight? How come Gay people just came out of nowhere. I why weren't there any gay people in the 1800's?

dear Worthwaitingfor,
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Then, tell me, why would someone living in a country that where they would be killed for being gay, choose to be gay? They wouldn't. So, obviously, people who are gay were born that way.

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Well its amazing that people choose to be christians in countries that slauter them. Everyone knows people arent born christian, they make the choice and some of them die. I think gay people do the same thing, except their choice isn't the best one...

did you even read the conversation? it's not natural, but it happens(like retarded animal babies). accept it
-evil
trust me, i'm a doctor

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Come on! It's not that hard. Certain parts of the body were meant to go with certain parts of the body OF THE OPPOSITE SEX! I am a Christian and believe what the Bible has to say about it, but I know most of you aren't. So look at it this way, whatever you believe created man still created parts to fit in places. It is NOT natural to be gay.
And you people that don't know God, what if you died today. WHERE WOULD YOU GO?
E-mail me at heatherfarmer49@yahoo.com

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If it's unnatural, try explaining to me observed homosexual behaviors among different species of animals. Seems to me homosexuality is perfectly natural, albeit much less common.

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are animals ever born retarded? where is the post on this!? and if it was an originally very stupid animal like...a cow or something would you be able to tell? really now

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do you think retarded animals are natural too(and yes animals can be retarded and it's pretty easy to tell, i had a retarded cat once), just cuz animals have it too, doesn't make it's natural, look the word "natural" up.

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I have OCD and thankyou, I am not gay.

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i didn't say having OCD ment you were gay (i think i might be OCD also) i just said being attracted to the same sex could be a disorder and then i listed two other commen disorders i didn't meen gays had OCD.
-evil
"well i could tell you, but that would require your first born son"

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nerds and m&m's are the worse. im always having to debate which one is the biggest/most perfect last piece and then i obsess about it.

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Funny. I do the exact same thing. And I always used to have to eat food off my plate in a clockwise motion. I'm treated for OCD too. Oh, well, I like some of my quirks. People remember me by them.

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yeah your not born with armpit hair either. it comes at puberty. idiot.

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If people were suppose to be gay they would have been made to reproduce either way. If you look at the way we as humans and even other mammals reproduce there is no way that another human can come out of a homosexual relationship

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there are more than 9,000 babies to adopt in puerto rico alone. imagine that in the u.s. gays can adopt kids.

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Now everything we do is a choice

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so so so wrong.

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No you can't be born gay. Being gay is a choice you make. Not something yoiu are born and stuck with for the rest of your life. Don't believe me? Take Adam and Eve for example. God gave them a choice of whether or not ot eat the apple. God told them the consequences of eating the apple, but they ate it. Now everything we do is a choice. Sometimes the choices are easy, like what to eat for dinner, and sometimes they are hard, like what car or house to buy. YOu don't have to believe me, but i know its true.

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you cant say adam and eve is an example because not only do not all people are christian, but because there is no proof they never exsited. and they probably didnt.

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Want to know why i think people aren't "born gay?" The simple answer is your not born in love. Your not born wanting to love someone. (besides your family; but thats a different kind of love) I personally think that all people were meant to love the opposite sex.I find that most gay people are either renagades (only a few), confused about friendship and love, or just want to be loved by anyone. The last to seem to be most of the cases. Don't get me wrong its not just gay people going for any relationship out there. Alot of other people do it to. Well thats all i have to say, bye.

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either youre really ignorant, or you were just stupid the moment you wrote that bull****.

#1...are animals ever born retarded? where is the post on this!? and if it was an originally very stupid animal like...a cow or something would you be able to tell? really now...

#2 I have OCD and thankyou, I am not gay. I actually have OCD with food. I categorize things. Like chex mix: i put it in pretzals, brown bagel chips, white chex, ect. then eat them in order of how much i like them...nerds and m&m's are the worse. im always having to debate which one is the biggest/most perfect last piece and then i obsess about it. most people don't notice but eventually someone figures it out and then find it entertaining to eat the last piece which is VERY MEAN. ....anyway...*looks around embarrassed then blinks rappidly* im feeling random today...

#3 Technically you aren't "gay" until you participate in gay sexual behavior, but no one is going to wait until their first time to decide if they are gay or straight.

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duh, that's because it IS unnatural.

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If it's unnatural, try explaining to me observed homosexual behaviors among different species of animals. Seems to me homosexuality is perfectly natural, albeit much less common.

Maybe Republicans should put their energies to something more practical. Like stamping out left-handedness.

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Want to know why i think people aren't "born gay?" The simple answer is your not born in love. Your not born wanting to love someone.

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yeah your not born with armpit hair either. it comes at puberty. idiot.

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I do not think you can be born gay because it is an unnatural lust.

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duh, that's because it IS unnatural. it's probably a disorder not unlike OCD or ADHD. but even if it's something else, it's obvios it's unnatural. a retarded monkey baby could find that one out Sherlock. it being unnatural is no reason why it isn't true. lots of things are unnatural. (sorry for ranting but i've had too much of these morons for one day)
-evil
one of us thinks you're an idiot, the other is you.

Yes I think you can be born gay. I have a friend who is gay and he's been gay most of his life. Ever since he was little he's acted and seemed gay. So when he actualy came out and said it none of us were surprised. I don't think people choose to be gay in the first place. I think some of them just choose to act gay. For some unknown reason. still there is a fine line between being gay and acting gay.

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If people were suppose to be gay they would have been made to reproduce either way. If you look at the way we as humans and even other mammals reproduce there is no way that another human can come out of a homosexual relationship

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well think of it this way, since they can't have children out of their relationship, they would have to adopt if they wanted children....now is that such a horrible thing

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So I ask those of you who belive that you can be born gay, why would you be born to an unfruitful lifestyle

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many people of born to an unfruitful lifestyle, just look at all those men and women that cant have children because of medical conditions

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I think that you can make up your mind to be gay or have your mind be made for you, but I do not belive the people are born gay

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why would you be something that you could change if you were: being denied rights, abused, made fun of etc., etc.

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Now everything we do is a choice

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wrong, somethings we have to do, somethings are forced upon us and we cant do anything about it, and somethings just happen because they do, we dont have a say in a lot of things that happen

just some thoughts
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No you can't be born gay. Being gay is a choice you make. Not something yoiu are born and stuck with for the rest of your life. Don't believe me? Take Adam and Eve for example. God gave them a choice of whether or not ot eat the apple. God told them the consequences of eating the apple, but they ate it. Now everything we do is a choice. Sometimes the choices are easy, like what to eat for dinner, and sometimes they are hard, like what car or house to buy. YOu don't have to believe me, but i know its true.

I do not think you can be born gay because it is an unnatural lust. Yes I said lust. If people were suppose to be gay they would have been made to reproduce either way. If you look at the way we as humans and even other mammals reproduce there is no way that another human can come out of a homosexual relationship. It just can't be done. So I ask those of you who belive that you can be born gay, why would you be born to an unfruitful lifestyle. I think that you can make up your mind to be gay or have your mind be made for you, but I do not belive the people are born gay. By saying "have your mind made for you" I mean that in this world today if you were sexualy abused that most doctors and shrinks tell you that being abused would make you gay. The reason I know this is because that is what happened to my aunt.She was emotionaly abused as a child and grew up never thinking much of herself. When she went to a shrink later on in her life the shrink told her that she was gay. Thus the shrink convinced her that she was gay. These are just my personal opinions.

I think to know if your gay it takes awhile before you know that your gay. YOu cant just come out when your 4 or 5 and say im gay, it just dont work that way.

Homosexuality has been found in every country, even those that punish and outlaw it. Obviously, if you say that people can't be gay, then you're saying that people choose to be gay. Then, tell me, why would someone living in a country that where they would be killed for being gay, choose to be gay? They wouldn't. So, obviously, people who are gay were born that way. Just like people who are straight were born that way. It's genetics and scientists are currently doing research on finding the "gay gene" and have come up with some very interesting evidence, so I've heard.

i think being born gay is the only way to be gay. think about it...would you be something that is changeable if you were getting hurt and denied rights for it?
Just a thought
Emily

Want to know why i think people aren't "born gay?" The simple answer is your not born in love. Your not born wanting to love someone. (besides your family; but thats a different kind of love) I personally think that all people were meant to love the opposite sex.I find that most gay people are either renagades (only a few), confused about friendship and love, or just want to be loved by anyone. The last to seem to be most of the cases. Don't get me wrong its not just gay people going for any relationship out there. Alot of other people do it to. Well thats all i have to say, bye.